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any pics maine?? i usually take almost all the fans off 2 weeks before harvest.. only the ones where i can see the stem of the fan touching the stem of the plants if that makes sense ... the fans that are in the buds i dont ever touch until its trim time..!! :hippy:
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They are lookin fuckin excellent man! :thumbsup:
happy harvest! :jointsmile:
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this is the newest addition to the DIG. she is just over a month old and has been topped once. her number is A-1 and im gonna call her 'Steak' as she looks nice and meaty to me.. lol
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i have moved the rest of the 'A Series' from veg to flower today..
they are all approximately a foot tall and have all been topped to increase branching for this run..
all have showed pistils and are supposedly female so i am hoping for another few ozs when they are done flowering.. i am hoping that by not just throwing them into flower right after the broke ground i will see both a faster flowering response and a bigger yield..
on an even more positive note i have successfully made 2 clones with no rooting powder and nothing but a peat cube..
the clones are from the big plant at the back of the DIG.. i call he Big Mamma and the tall one that i call Legs..
these are going to be my mother plants until i get some serious genetics from the internet or from some of my peeps around here.. lets hear it for medical cannabis and the increased availability of genetics..
so the first couple pics are of the new mothers in their solo cups with promix.. first 2 are Big Mamma last is Legs.. she seems kinda small right now but i have much faith in her..
then i have a couple of the whole DIG.. it is now packed in there!
later tonight i will put up some more bud shots of all of the gurls that are in the latter half of flowering..
thanks for stopping by and comments are always appreciated.
-MG
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here is the bud shots i promised..
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A-5 was a hermie too!! :wtf:
i think that i now understand my ability to get 100% fem seeds.. they were hermie seeds so they all ended up being female!! but some didnt want to stay just fem.. :wtf: :wtf: they wanted to fuck up my crop! :wtf: i hate hermies :finger: and will mow very seriously consider getting genetics online :thumbsup: lets hope he didnt hurt things anymore then already were..
-MG
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all of the plants are looking good except Big Mamma.. she is still very yellow in the new growth.. i have tried using PH'ed water set at 7.6 and will do so again tomorrow.. the rest of the smaller pots are doing good and dont seem to have the same problems with nutes that the multiple plants per pot.. (learning experience)
i am going to feed and water the smaller pots tonight and may post some pics of the problem plant for ya'll to comment on.. i hope you have some new suggestions for me.. BTW i checked the runoff PH and from 7.6 it went to 6.5!! i think that was the problem and i will continue to fuck with them and try to dial the feeding in better..
~MG
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Let's see some pics of the problem. 7.6 won't kill anything, but it has messed with nute uptake for me in the past.
What is the EC and source of the flush water?
If it's real 'soft' water, it only needs to come in contact with a very small amount of acidic soil to drop its pH to almost that of the soil.
If you're using RO or distilled, with no buffers, you can pH it to 7.6, run it through a 6.4 pH pot, and have it come out at almost 6.5 (just for example).
OTOH, a stiff nute solution might go in at 7.6 and come through a 6.4 pH pot at 7.5 (again, made up example, please pass the 'pH-Up' to set this up :D) especially if the medium's inert / not-well-buffered.
Hope this is making sense. 'Softer' water's gonna swing hard. One DROP of acid will dump the pH on a bathtub fulla distilled. Sorta. :D
What I'm getting at is I'd rather flush more thoroughly with water closer to the target value, than less thoroughly with water PH'ed to move the pH all at once. I've run in the low 5's (5.2-5.5) in soil without problems, so I wouldn't rush trying to get the pH up. :rastasmoke:
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here are some pics of 'Big Mamma'..
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here are some pictures of some other gurls..
they dont seem to have the problems that "big mamma" has or they are way less of a problem..
i think with the info you have given me then i may just have a nute deficiency/lock up.. but not from ph then.
all of the gurls seem to have been seeded by the #4 plant that went hermie in the beginning! that is too bad but it is a good learning experience and i will be much more aware of hermies in the future.
from now on i will cut any suspicious plants before they become a problem.. i can always start more but i cant un-seed them after the damage is done..
also i have decided that growing from bagseed is a kinda dangerous venture and should be undertaken with care and vigilance (bag seed can apparently be from hermies!)
now that i have a couple plants that seem to be doing good i will use them as mothers and not plant too many seeds that i dont know the origins of..
thats all for now but answers are always appreciated even if a question isnt asked..
~MG
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Those girls look fuckin 'GREAT' Maine! :thumbsup:
Is 7.4 not considered a High PH?
I've been feeding at 5.8 - 6.5...I am using coco though.....Couldnt tell you what my run off is?
....whats the recommended PH for soil grows?
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good to see you m10..
it was getting kinda boring here and i was just reading random shit..
not sure about PH but the reading that i have been able to do has lead me to believe that my soil PH is WAY low and it needs to be brought up..the plants seem to agree with that assessment and are doing better and better.. i think.
6.8 seems to be the agreed upon PH for soil and i think that ~5.8 is what is recommended for coco.. i have been thinking about playing with coco but have decided that both for acquiring and usage purposes MG and Pro-Mix are what i am going to us from now on.. the MG for veg and Pro-Mix for flowering..
thanks for the compliment man your look good too monny
:greenthumb: keep it up
~MG
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i'd have to agree with the pH assesment. 6.3-6.8 is the ideal range for soil. with a high pH micro nutrients tend to be less available and at a lower pH macro nutes tend to be less available.
you said that yellowing is only effecting the new growth?
-shake
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Originally Posted by headshake
i'd have to agree with the pH assesment. 6.3-6.8 is the ideal range for soil. with a high pH micro nutrients tend to be less available and at a lower pH macro nutes tend to be less available.
you said that yellowing is only effecting the new growth?
yes only new growth at the top of the main cola.. nowhere else
that help?
-shake
thats the most i have been able to figure.. i was thinking now that it may be heat stress/light bleaching.. :wtf:
~MG
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could be an iron def. which is often found with zinc and manganese defs as well. all of which could be caused by a high pH.
that's my best first guess. you can try the troubleshooting form for better/more solid opinions.
hope this helps.
-shake
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Originally Posted by headshake
could be an iron def. which is often found with zinc and manganese defs as well. all of which could be caused by a high pH.
that's my best first guess. you can try the troubleshooting form for better/more solid opinions.
i will and it do help.. thanks
hope this helps.
-shake
when the lights turn on and i can take some pics i will fill out your form and post it up..
peace
~MG
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When new growths are showin signs of yellowin, that means that there are a deficiency or the plant have too much nutes? Too much nutes will lead to leave's tip to go brown and all. But for the rest I realy don't know! Too green leaves = too much nutes. And too pale leaves = not enough nutes. But if it has a deficiency of whatsoever, new growth will be yellowish?
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hey j'mapelle 'Jay'
qest que tu va?
~MG
(help me with my french.. if you would post first in english then in french when you hit me up here i would love it.. its been years but my ex was from old quebec city..)
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Hey MG, just wanted to let ya know that Attitud has a freebie offer going on and there femmed seeds they are giving:thumbsup: But only till the 11th, starting today.
All these souvenir seeds are completly free when you spend over ÂŁ15...
1 Feminized DNA GENETICS SHARKSBREATH
1 Feminized DNA GENETICS LEMON SKUNK
1 Feminized DNA GENETICS ROCKLOCK
:rasta:
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its definitely not a nitrogen deficiency, because then the bottom leaves would yellow first.
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Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.
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What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
novice.. grown outdoors for years but put up with any losses by planting 50% more than necessary
Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
HPS 600 watt for flower.. 70 watt MH + 3X 26 watt 2700k CLF for veg + 2X 36 watt t-12 tubes for seedlings
.2) Distance from tops?
HPS = 6-12" MH & CLF & T-12 = 2"
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
HPS has a batwing in a homemade cab the top of which is sealed from the bottom and has a fan drawing air out of the room through the light..
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
..Um i leave the door to the room i grow in open most of the time so i would say yes?
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
exhaust and circulation and see above
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
already covered..
Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
its just bad now.. i started with a hot batch of Coast of Maine soil.. it is what i and everyone else around here that can uses for growing outdoors :( didnt seem to love it. now am using promix and have transplanted to promix now
.8) Size of container.
35 gal tub has 6 plants.. the rest are in 2 gal pots
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?
nope between paper towels straight into soil had close to 80% rate from seed to flowering.. reduced to ~50% after cut out males..
Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?
tap water.. PH = 6.9
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
aquarium test kit
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
white vinegar / baking soda.. :( no PhUP :(
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
watering 1/3 of the time with no nutes.. giving each plant ~1/2 L to 3/4 L
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
Nope.. i DO want CalMag but cant afford yet
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
honestly im not sure.. i have no way to really tell.. i think fluctuate though but that is just gut feeling
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
before i started to try to fix this mess it was about 6.0 - 6.3 after nutes. the only time i checked the runoff i sent 7.6+ PHed water through and got like 6.4 back!!
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?
no i dont except for seedlings and then with straight water
Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
indoor
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
two foot by four feet
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on?
76-ish @ ~30% RH
...With lights off?
65-ish @ ~50% rh
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
only ladybugs
Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
bag seed and IDK
24) From seeds or clones?
seed
25) Is this an autoflower strain?
never
there it is shake..
see what you think and PLEASE help
~MG
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Originally Posted by frostedwonder
Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.
i think i do better.. je pense que j'ameliore.. when it is written AND spoken
quand on lui ecrit et parle..
just my two cents though.. juste me deux cents
~MG
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Originally Posted by purplekush989
its definitely not a nitrogen deficiency, because then the bottom leaves would yellow first.
merci mon ami..
thanks my friend
~MG
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Originally Posted by frostedwonder
Growing something as wonderful as Cannabis will change the soul and heal the world, one bud at a time. Ă?levant quelque chose aussi merveilleuse que le cannabis changera l'âme et guĂ©rira le monde, un bourgeon Ă* la fois.e bud et a time. Really rusty but its easier for me to speak and hear then write, I can barely write in English so I am cool with that. Its hard to make your brain think in written form a foreign language when your dyslexic . I can poorly speak numerous languages (ordering beer)which allows me to make a fool of myself in many lands...I try though. If you watch Inglorious Bastards you will hear like four languages through the whole movie..Not my fav Tarentino movie tho.
Hey frostedwonder, on va pouvoir se parler dans notre langue! Sauf que toé tu viens du vieux pays!! hehe!
mainegrown, le francais, c'est pas difficile!
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je sachez que cest facile..
j'ai ete eleve pres de la frontiere du canada mais c'a ete un long temps qui j'ai essaye d'empolyer le francais.
je dois utiliser un tradacteur mais avec parctique je pas
i know that it isnt hard
i was raised on the border of canada but it has been a long time since i used french
i have to use a translator but with practice i wont..
~MG
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je sachez que cest facile..
j'ai ete eleve pres de la frontiere du canada mais c'a ete un long temps qui j'ai essaye d'empolyer le francais.
je dois utiliser un tradacteur mais avec parctique je pas
i know that it isnt hard
i was raised on the border of canada but it has been a long time since i used french
i have to use a translator but with practice i wont..
~MG
Je sait que c'est facile..
J'ai été élevé pres de la frontiere canadienne mais ca fait longtemps que je n'utilise plus le francais.
Je doit utiliser un traducteur mais avec de la pratique je n'aurai plus besoin
Enough with french lesson for today, time to grow weed!
Assez pour les lecons de francais aujourd'hui, c'est le temps de faire pousser du weed!
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Originally Posted by MonkeyBone
Assez pour les lecons de francais aujourd'hui, c'est le temps de faire pousser du weed!
:thumbsup:
canvenu..
agreed
~le Maine Developpe
~Maine Grown
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there it is shake..
see what you think and PLEASE help
~MG
Lemme jump in her and say, 86 the vinegar and the Baking soda.
Vinegar will encourage slime molds and Sodium BiCarb. is way too much sodium.
You can use Potassium Bicarbonate as PH up and Lemon Juice as PH down safely without spending much.
But, Phosphoric acid is the best PH down that I've found.
Now lemme go back and see what da problem is.
Aloha,
Weeze
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so you are using tap water MG? is the big plant in it's own container or in the tub? also, i'm sure i missed it somewhere, but what nutes are you using?
and do what weeze says about the vinegar/baking soda.
trying to help (but not with the french!),
-shake
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yes i am using tap water..
i cant afford a RO getup..
and the big plant os in the tub with the rest of em..
i didnt plan it that way i just planted a bunch of seeds in each pot figuring that i would gat more males and would have to chop some..
learning experience that was
ok on the baking soda/vinegar i will 86 em..
not a problem with the french, j'ai mes amis canadiens pour cela (I have my canadian friends for that)
merci mon amis (thanks my friends)
espoir d'avoir de vos nouvelles plus tard ce soir (hope to hear from you later tonight)
~le Maine développé (MaineGrown)
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here is a lil photo shoot of the three new plants
two were successfully topped.
the other seems to be throwing shoots like it was topped but only has one main growing tip.. :cool: but odd too..
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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and here are some bud shots for everyone to have a lil look-see.. :clap: :cool:
the one that is under HPS is Big Mamma :) and the one with the sharpie cap is Leggs.. ;)
please say what you like about em.. :question: a am made of some stern shit.. :D :s4: j.k..
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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and some more..
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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and a few shots of my clones of
1) Big Mamma and
2) Leggs (i dont know if this clone will make it)
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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the buds all look nice MG. they all look nice and dense.
did you have a hermie though? the first pic looks to show a calyx with a seed in it.
is that a yes or no on the nutes?
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yes on the hermie.. i have TONS of seeds bro.. :(
and i am using Neptune's Harvest Fish Fertilizer
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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i just watered all of the seedlings and the clones..
and the Big Mamma clone has an amazing root zone.. but has showed almost NO veg growth! can anyone tell me whats up with that? she is in a 20 oz solo cup with promix..
i just gave her some nute water @ 1 t. MG AP / gal h2o..
i am hoping that the roots were just looking for nutes and couldnt find any..
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
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So, are those yellowing leaves starting to get healthy again?
Alors, est-ce que les feuilles qui jaunissent recommencent a etre en santé?
How many plants you got in veg and how many in flower?
Combien as-tu de plants en veg et combien en floraison?
How much time left before harvesting your oldest plants?
Combien de temps avant de couper les plus vieux plant?
Great job so far!
Bon travail jusqu'a date!
:thumbsup:
MonkeyBone, l'Os de Singe? Sound weird, ca sonne bizarre :stoned:
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Originally Posted by mainegrown
i just watered all of the seedlings and the clones..
and the Big Mamma clone has an amazing root zone.. but has showed almost NO veg growth! can anyone tell me whats up with that? she is in a 20 oz solo cup with promix..
i just gave her some nute water @ 1 t. MG AP / gal h2o..
i am hoping that the roots were just looking for nutes and couldnt find any..
~MG a.k.a. le Maine développé
the clone was taken from a flowering plant. it takes the plant time to switch from flowering back to veg. try to remove as many of the flowers as you can and see if that won't help to kick start that lil' girl.
-shake