hay shake, whats up
looking to pick your brain on molasses. i thought i read in one of your earlier logs about using it to flush..can you gimme some tips.. im a few weeks away from flushing and have never used it:thumbsup:
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hay shake, whats up
looking to pick your brain on molasses. i thought i read in one of your earlier logs about using it to flush..can you gimme some tips.. im a few weeks away from flushing and have never used it:thumbsup:
still out there shake??
Shake is internet disabled at the moment, (neighbors gave the boot on the ole wireless. :asskick:) I'm sure he will be back around as soon as he gets back online.
Now THAT is great news.
Tell Shake that my son will be by at Thanksgiving and that coins will be shipped shortly thereafter.
M.P.
i'm still alive and kicking everyone. and everything seems to be kicking my ass at the moment.
i've got a bunch of stuff going. i've chopped the four biggest ladies. i know have three that are gonna get chopped next. i have 5x killas WH that are in soil. 1x is a male for breeding. i killed off the other as it wasn't as good looking as the keeper.
of the four females, one is flowering ( i might make a few seeds off of this one). she's not very big (and she stetched in veg which was completely my fault).
3x of the WH are looking crazy. i don't think it's anything that i'm doing as several of them look fine and all my others plants are fine. i'm thinking it could be since they are F1s? and i'm not knocking killas work at all! pics are to follow.
behind them i've got started some hempys. i've got six going so far.
1x OG kush
1x DBP
1x WH (funny looking)
1 x WH clone (looks good)
1x dinafem WW (DWW)
1x g-13 labs diesel
since then somebody that i know (huh, huh irydyum!) gave me some greenhouse WW to run as well. i've got 2x of them in hempys as well.
M.P.,
sounds good! i can't wait. i'm still working on a package for you as well. the meter is still chugging along like a champ. thanks again!
pic 1-all the gang
pic 2- hempys
pic 3- new GWW hempys
pic 4- WH
pic 5- a random closeup of one of the 3x big ladies
everything is moving along. i just moved, am still jobless and having a few other problems in life, but i'm still smiling (always). i'm not asking for sympathy or anything else. i'm just telling it like it is.
i hope all is well with everyone out there. i'll be back on as much as i can until i get my own 'net.
update: well i tried uploading pics, but it's taking forever. i'll have to resize them (program isn't working at the moment). sorry. i'll get em up as fast as i can.
-shake
:jointsmile:Glad to see you back shake-will be waiting for any pics-smello
hell ya busy busy:thumbsup:....cant wait to see the pictures:hippy:
what's good everyone? i finally got my image resizing program to work. so here are the pics as promised.
vaped- i'm staying busy as hell!!! thanks again!
pic 1- all the gang
pic 2- hempys
pic 3- greenhouse WW mini hempys (GWW)
pic 4- a WH top
pic 5- random closeup
more pics to follow. i appreciate everyone's patience and kind words.
-shake
here are some more pics. these are all hempy's.
pic 1- death by purple
pic 2- dinafem WW
pic 3- g-13 labs diesel
pic 4- OG kush
pic 5- wrecked homicide (kinda weird looking)
still more pics to follow.
-shake
pic 1- all three wrecked homicides (put the two weird ones in flower recently, just to see what they do)
pic 2- one normal, and one not so good looking WH (the normal one is still in veg, will be a mom; also got one normal one in flower will probably get some beans from that one)
pic 3- one more not so normal looking WH
pic 4-5- random closeups of the three closest to being chopped
thanks for tuning in. i'll still try to get updates on here regularly.
-shake
i must also comment on the trichs on the WH. they are starting to walk down the FAN LEAVES! i think they are similar on the DBP also. i'll try to remember to get some closeups.
-shake
looks like some mutants you got over there.....they dont seem to be your problem....the mutants seem to come from the purple wreck.....the majority of the purple wreck seeds i cracked came out like that...
The ones that snapped out of it usually produced some really dank nugs.....but those dont seem like they are snapping out of anything soon!
cool. i appreciate the info killa. i'm glad it's not me. they definitley don't looke like they are snapping out of it. should be interesting to see though. if they don't do much i guess i can chop them for hash or something?
the one that's been in flower for a month or so smells very lemony to me. did you run across that? what all phenos did you notice?
-shake
Look'n mighty fine, Shake. Look'n mighty fine.
M.P
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Headshake again
:jointsmile:shake-its looking good.I would like to know the size of your flower box:jointsmile:im pulling up a seat!!!!!!!
that was in the back of a big ass closet. i just used some cardboard to block the ladies and to reflect light. i would say that it was about 3' x 4' or so in the closet. they are now in a 4' x 4' tent, thanks irydyum!Quote:
Originally Posted by smello
i put the ladies in veg under the MH while it's on and then drop them under a shit-load of CFLs when the flowering chamber goes dark.
i'll get some new pics up as soon as i can.
thanks for tuning in!
good growing!
-shake
Always a pleasure. I just noticed for the first time that your quote is from the "Deceleration of Independence". Either that is very witty, or a fantasticly ironic typo.
Fantastic baked goods btw. They were excellent. :eat:
Do you live in a growroom? So many set-ups. Nice buds, but thats what you should expect from the shake.
-C
looking too nice shake. so many mouthwatering strains you have going. THe hempys are beautiful, the harvest is gonna be legit. good to hear your move went successful.:thumbsup:
Look at ya now bud!! Passive hydro technique, a digital meter, HID, and lovely genetics. Oh how evolution takes it's course. Glad things are working out for ya in the long run, Zoola.
Pet the pits and the pig for me. ;)
Begood and begreen.
-be
edit: irydyum pointed out the Deceleration of Independence. I second his views on it. lol
That lemon smell must be coming from the Purple Wreck Side.....Never ran the beans but i know what the parents looked and smelt like.....seems like the PW is pretty dominate in this cross....Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
Now ive seen the PW mutants come out, the lemon smell, im probably gonna bet they turn purple but not like my pics....probably taking after its dad...You might get a yeilder considering the father was huge...I betting it wont turn purple till around day 45 and you will start to see it on the bottom of the plant and will work its way up during flush! Just my thoughts? Glad to see someone testing these.....I think that lemon smell will turn into a nasty smelling lemon diesal plant likes its PW side!
Thanks for the updates shake....how far are they along in flowering?
i assure you that it was a typo. i guess it was freudian though! lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by irydyum
glad you liked the baked goods. they should be better with some butter!
holla at ya boi!
kinda sorta. it pisses my wife off that's for sure!Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgetClassC
i appreciate all of the love BP!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluntpasser
Zooka,Quote:
Originally Posted by BeFree
glad to hear from you my friend! i hope things are well with you.
i have been stepping it up slowly but surely. things are coming along. and i must say that i couldn't have done most of it without the wonderful people on this site. i've gotten so much love it's ridiculous. time to start paying it back!
hope to see you around more!
-Zoola
i guess so. i'm not sure what there deal is. neither of the males was mutant. all but 2 of the females was (out of the beans i popped, still got some left). they seem to stress easy. the good looking female and the one clone i have are both throwing three finger leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by killa12345
on the other hand, the trichs are walking down the fans!
the plants are very vigorous. they are going to be bushes. and they seemed to love being slightly LSTd. just funky looking as all hell. they are popping pistils out left and right.Quote:
Originally Posted by killa12345
i've got one female that is about 31 days or so. she stretched in veg (my fault) and i probably put her in flower a bit too early. she's the lemon smelling lady. i hit her with a bit of pollen from the male to see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by killa12345
i've got two mutant females that have only been in flower for a couple weeks at most. and then i still have one i'm keeping as the mom. she's a little stressed. i'm working on that. the clone is in a hempy and also throwing 3-bladed leaves.
i'll get some more pics and update as i can! again, i appreciate all the love!
-shake
thats weird about the males being fine and all the Females coming out mutant....and your right...they do stress incredibily easy but you will find that with most purple strain....including Reserva Privada Purple Wreck...ive seen hermies with some of the power outages here and so forth...but i find that most purple strains hate high PPM and stressful growing conditions
About topping the PW....DOnt Top after the 5 day of flowering....the tops wont strectch enough to create two seperate cola....learned by mistake..
Here is what the Male in the cross was....see it started as a mutant!
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...mutantmale.jpg
This is what it looked like at about 10th day of veg...
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...DSC02636-1.jpg
It was the only legit male i had for the cross.....This is why i dont just go out and try to charge for seeds or give a bunch of testers away because you never know if the cross is going to be better or worse than the parents...in this case, i think im gonna have to test some more myself. and give out more soon....after you finish shake, if you want more of the pk x pr f2 which is much more stable id be happy to abidge for ya testing....thanks bro
Killa
i would love to test for you killa! always. and i'll keep the log going. i'm trying to do as much research as i can.
i've been feeding the hempy clone of the WH your formula. i will start being extra nice to her and see what happens. i just topped pretty much everything yesterday, but they all were in veg.
i hear ya 100% on the male for the cross. on that note though, i must say, the one male that i do have is BAD ASS! there are tons of trichs on the flowers. i mean, visable with the naked eye, sparkling like diamond trichs! it's insane!
if i cross two siblings is that still considered an F1 or what?
thanks for all the info. i'll keep the testing going. i also received some calmag+ from irydyum so we'll see if that helps. i was using molasses to bump up my RO water to about 235PPM from 30 or so.
agian, i'll stay updated and get some pics of those male trichs!!!
-shake
just gonna throw up a quick update.
things are moving. the plants are looking okay. i did have a problem, but i think i remedied it. i think it might have been a calcium deficiency, but i'm not sure about that. i was using molasses with RO water and the plants didn't seem to be able to get the calcium. since i've started using calmag+ and it appears to be clearing up. i'll report more about this. also look for a study about molasses coming soon.....
currenlty i'm waiting on more perlite/vermiculite and a heating pad so i can take some clones.
i will get some pics up, but this damn internet cafe upload speed is horrible. sorry for being such a shitty board member.
i'll be back as soon as possible.
-shake
i'm gonna try to get some of those pics up again!
pic 1- DBP
pic 2- WH clone (this one is starting to show serrated leaves again!)
pic 3- DWW
pic 4- GWW
pic 5- WH (notice the 5 bladed leaves in front and the 3 bladed in back?)
also, these pictures are a week or so old so they are all much bigger!
a few more to come....
-shake
pic 1-WH mutant
pic 2-3- showing some ablinoism?
pic 4- WH male with pretty nice trichs!
pic 5- the troubles i was having. i think the calcium in the molasses wasn't getting taken up.
the OG and others are all doing well. i have pics of them all i'm just not organized at the moment. not having my own 'net really screws me up. i'll get fresh pics up by tomorrow at the latest!
thanks for being patient everyone!
-shake
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Originally Posted by headshake
What you mean? maybe Mg in the molasses lock out the Ca?
I use molasses @ 2 tbs/gallon with no nothing bad. Maybe you jus spill a little on this leaf?
i haven't spilled any on the leaves. i am using reverse osmosis water that has a pH of about 7.2 and 32 PPM. i was using the molasses to bump the PPM to about 235 with 1 tsp. i am running hempys. i am assuming that the molasses wasn't being uptaken by the plant. perhaps the microbes in soil need to break it down for it to be used. it's not chelated. i have since started using calmag+ and the problem seems to have cleared up. it was happening to all of my plants, including a few of the soil ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
i suppose your theory is as good as mine though shove. it also could have been a problem with my wandering pH pen. all the new growth appears fine though.
-shake
hay shake this probably wont help, but ive had similar discolouring before.. and i thought it was my ph dropping suddenly..
hope you get it sorted.. those beans of killas should be sturdy, they will come back for u :thumbsup:
Hey shake,
Just my two cents but 7.2 seems abit high... most pH in hempy i've read about are running between 5.8-6.2
Hope things clear up for you and things go great :jointsmile:
Is that 7.2 for just the RO water or your nute mixture! either way both are too high! like deleafer said the range is 5.8-6.2 anything higher and your gonna run into a lot of nute lockout problems.....seems like your already experiencing that as well....This should be ran like passive hydro or hydro.....soil ph ranges will cause all types of problems....Quote:
Originally Posted by deleafer2220
I never seen ro water with a ph higher than 6.1 in my life.....you might wanna calibrate the meter shake!
Maybe you could add a bit more info shake! Also. you running 50/50 perlite/vermiculite might also be causing problems....with not enough water retention! I never ran anything or seen anything saying 50/50 is a good mixture!
7.2 is the pH of the water before anything is done to it. i get it from one of those machines that dispense water at the grocery store and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by killa12345
i might have ran my nutes at too low of a pH a couple of time as my meter was a little out of calibration, but since, i know it's calibrated to two points.
i adjust my nute mix to a ph of 6.0 or so, after they are added of course. i know hempys are a hydro system and should be treated as such. give your boy a little credit!
the 50/50 mix was just a starting point as i have read all kinds of ratios. killa you like the 4:1 (perl/verm) if i'm not mistaken. jrosek from IC and that thread you pointed me to likes 60/40 (perl/verm) if i'm not mistaken. so it was merely a starting point.
like is said, i dont' have to water them every two to three days. i can go a week or so between watering them. i've always just lifted them to see if they need water.
i have since recovered from the nute lockout/pH/molasses problems. the plants are looking totally healthy. i will get some new pics up tonight or tomorrow.
i do appreciate all the help and it sucks i can't get back to you guys sooner.
i'll be back later.
-shake
Glad to hear they are doing better :thumbsup: can't wait to see how the hempys do for you :jointsmile:
:DHey shake,any updates.-smello
Um, WTF's Ph? <g>Quote:
Originally Posted by headshake
Sho
yeah, there are currently two WH in flower that aren't mutants but very beautiful plants indeed. they are no longer hempy though. they've been switched to soil.Quote:
Originally Posted by smello
i should have been updating here but have been doing it in my "headshake's hempy adventure" log.
thanks for staying interested.
i'm i missing something here shove?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shovelhandle
-shake
Hey Shake,
Long time no talk. I haven't had a chance to go through your whole log yet but I'm curious why you switched the WH to soil.
We just popped a few WH's. They'll be going into hempy buckets soon.
Later,
McT
what's going on MC? glad to see you back on the boards! i hope all is well with you and yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by McToker
the reason i put the WH into soil is because i started the seeds and put them into hempys and they got root bound. i always heard one gallon was the sweet spot so that's what i started them in. from my experience one gallon is the way to go if you want to put a clone in the bucket and start flowering them. if you plan on vegging for any extended period of time i would put them into bigger buckets. i ran into a whole slew of problems with the hempys, most notably my erratic pH meter. (i do have a new meter!) so i will be playing with hempys again, just had to get everything right to do so.
learn from my mistakes my friend! good to see you again.
good growing!
-shake