is it guy fawkes night already? when i was growing up in eastern canada, that was bigger than hallowe'en
happy terrorist day!
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is it guy fawkes night already? when i was growing up in eastern canada, that was bigger than hallowe'en
happy terrorist day!
Real honorable mature behavior....:wtf: Good thing I know everyone from your party isn't like that.
i am still whining about george bush winning, and then winning again...i will continue to whine about george bush until the US national debt is paid down to $5 trillion, and then i'll whine about ronald reagan until it's paid down to $2 trillion...WAH!!
well it appears the comments I was reffering to have been deleted with my response. No offense DAi, you are a good friend, but before telling me to calm down, it would have been great had you seen the messages I was responding to.
GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I understand.. I think I've just watched this election for so long I've reached indifference at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyTango
I'm just so Zen right now that neither the complainers or the sore winners can bring me down. :hippy:
Okay party people, please relax if that is possible, and remember that in the big picture we are ALL on the same team!
werd queeny....guess Ill go wake and bake...feel betterQuote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Sorry all, I have tried to be chill, but once in a while someone sets me off bad. Try not to pollute our site.
(bows forgiveness)
:joint1:
You're JUST waking up? lol! Git git! Your plants need your love.
Great job President Obama!!!....you know i think now would be a great time to try to legalize cannibus,on a government level.I believe that because the republicans really got "skunked" across the board....lol
After it was called, I didn't know how to react. I had been waiting for that moment for so long, that it was almost unblelievable that it finally happened.
I'm very excited to see where our country will go from here. McCain had a very respectfull speach, I just wish more of his supporters could act the same way. If he would have been that way through his entire campaign, I might have even supported him.
I wish I had some herb to celebrate with.
High-five brother! Woohoo!! :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by DTRave420
And everyone else! :)
hells yeah Obama! Even if we ignore the milestone of America putting aside their racial differences and voting in (well...letting the electoral college vote in for us, but that's a whole other annoyance) our first African American president i have to say: Hells yeah!
And here's why, assuming he keeps his campaign promises;
-Universal healthcare: fuck ya-yeah, 'bout time we caught up with some of the other "civilized" countries...and i need health insurance damnit! hahaha
-Putting taxes back where they were before Bush decided to gives all his buddies a break: the rich are rich enough, they don't need coupons i can't get ("coupons" is an analogy, keep up with me here, hahaha)
-Withdrawing from Iraq: finally we can focus on getting the terrorist douchebags that attacked us 6 years ago instead of "nobody beats up my dad and gets away with it!"
- Aaaaaaanannd (if he'll finally give a straight answer on this now that he doesn't have to worry about offending one side or the other) marijuana decriminalization! do i really need to say anything more about that in a place like this?
But for all the McCain supporters still sulking and crying foul out there, let me drop my favorite analogy about this election thus far:
If Bush was a happy meal, then McCain's a big mac. The big mac may be a step up, but it's still fast food. Order a steak, support Obama.
"If Bush was a happy meal, then McCain's a big mac. The big mac may be a step up, but it's still fast food. Order a steak, support Obama."
The only problem is neither option is FREE RANGE! we're still choking down the same artificial and hormone pumped meat.
lol loser speechQuote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
OBAMA '08
Don't forget providing tuition at community colleges free in exchange for a period of community service after graduation. Hell the F#<K yea.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeddaLiddleHI
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Originally Posted by Delta9 UK
Remember, remember the fifth of November,Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
The gunpowder, treason and plot,
I know of no reason
Why the gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.
It's funny how the verse is a condemnation, but Fawkes is also a kind of folk hero.
The McCain campaign and the right-wing media, like Rush and Hannity, made a lot of the idea that Obama is a radical leftist. I never got that from him myself, and it will be interesting to see how he governs. Will he go to the left or be more of a centrist? Will he claim a leftist mandate?
Bush made a lot of his imaginary "mandate," and it turned out he was not a "uniter, not a divider," like he said he was. He had power, but not a real mandate. His idea of bipartisanship was to invite the other side to vote for his bills exactly the way he wanted them, not to compromise, and if they didn't like it, he shoved them down their throats with his majorities in Congress. I think that attitude is partly how Bush destroyed the Republican party.
I have a feeling Obama will be a lot more of a centrist than people think, certainly a lot more centrist than Bush was. This was a pretty decisive Democratic victory, but a lot of the Democratic gains in the House and Senate came from conservative areas of the country, and unless the Democrats want to experience the same backlash the Republicans just experienced, they are going to have to have some discipline and govern as centrists.
Most of the people of this country are centrists. The Republicans lost sight of what the people want, and they used their power to govern too far to the right on many issues, despite having no mandate to do so. I think Obama is smart enough and also charismatic enough to keep the Democrats from abusing their power the way the Republicans did.
The other thing for Democrats is that they are now going to have to put up or shut up with solutions that really do work, or they will get tossed out next round. Ideology is one thing, but it doesn't always really WORK in the real world. With the kinds of problems we have right now, if you don't offer real solutions that work, people are not going to take it, no matter how ideologically "pure" your programs are.
One thing I expect to happen, and it's something I really look forward to, is that I think Obama is really going to call on people to SERVE in the national interest. I think people are ready for that. I think people want to be called to do more than just shop and spend and keep the economy moving. Obama's opponents made a lot of fun of his record as a community organizer, but I really think that his community organizing experience is what won him the election. I had registerd at his website and made a donation, and you would not imagine the opportunities offered to be involved. It is a very sophistcated organization and network that communicates and organizes through a lot of different channels, and that is not going away just becasue the election is over. Reagan had similar networks of motivated supporters in the days of snail mail and landline telephones. Imagine that same network in this era of email, cell phones, and text messages. This is going to be very interesting. I think he will be able to get popular support behind any agenda he wants to push, and I also expect he will call people to serve outside of that kind of role as well --- direct service to communities and to the nation to get things done.
George W Bush - Forgotten, but not gone.
I agree. He leans a little left, but he's not a full-blown socialist and definitely not a communist so I think he'll end up leading around the center, though with a few leftist leans.
And to everyone complaining about socialism and ruining the country...Neo-conservativism has been in power since Ronald Reagan took office, with only a couple of short breaks.
The fact that we're not completely crippled as a nation is due mostly to globalization of corporations, methinks (ugh).
This election proves the ideas of trickle-down economics, expanding government while lowering taxes, and other neo-con ideas are outdated and no longer desired by the majority.
Just give the liberals a chance, just one.
If only so you can reform your party :)
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Originally Posted by dragonrider
haha, yeah. i also thought it was funny Guy Fawkes day was the day after we elected a president that was accused of being a terrorist by his opponent.
"I think he will be able to get popular support behind any agenda he wants to push, and I also expect he will call people to serve outside of that kind of role as well."
- that's a good definition of leadership, and something that has been sorely lacking in the current administration...obama is smart, so smart people will be attracted to him, and he will choose smart advisors...obama is articulate, so he will be able to explain his policies and plans to americans and the rest of the world...obama is inspiring, so people will be inspired to put their effort behind his policies...this is especially important now because americans are facing some difficult choices, and effective leadership will help them make the right choices, even if it means making sacrifices...bush's leadership was more like "it's my way or the highway, and if that bothers you, here are some tax cuts and stimulus checks to take your mind off things"...now the money is all gone, and americans must be asking themselves how they let things go so wrong
i remember how america was so excited about change when bill clinton took office...it didn't go as well as hoped, but clinton didn't have the same *immediate* easy choices or the same majorities in both houses that obama will have in his first 100 days...it should be one of the most momentous 100 days of any new presidency in history...after that, i don't know how well he will do...the challenges america faces are daunting
god bless america!!
I think its amazing and im happy for the people of america, but I just find 1 thing strange,
Barack Obama ryhmes with Iraq Osama, plus his middle names Hussien. Weird.
You might not have followed the election over here very closely, but believe me, this came up plenty of times...Quote:
Originally Posted by CheeseBlazer
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I think its amazing and im happy for the people of america, but I just find 1 thing strange,
Barack Obama ryhmes with Iraq Osama, plus his middle names Hussien. Weird.
You might not have followed the election
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happy terrorist day!
dont anybody hold back your comments
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the reason i said 'happy terrorist day' was because november 5 honors the memory of guy fawkes who was in the basement under the british house of lords with a few dozen barrels of explosives when the police caught him...my comment had nothing to do with america or islamic terrorism...guy fawkes night is celebrated in several countries around the world with bonfires and fireworks...it's a happy party night so cheer up!
Guy Fawkes and Bonfire Night
Bonfires and fireworks! I think I would LOVE this celebration!Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit
we'd light big bonfires and jump over them through the flames and throw bic lighters and spray cans in the fire...we also made our own gunpowder and blew stuff to pieces and played stupid pranks...it seemed like the one night of the year where the police didn't care what you did as long as nobody got hurt...it was a night of anarchy and happy mayhem
Excellent!Quote:
Originally Posted by maladroit