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Steve man bottom line you arent helping the situation by being a dick and threatening lawsuits. I will always continue to support Ms. Corby because the way evidence was handled and the fact that Indonesian law is barberic and government corrupt. All the sectarian issues undermined political and economic stability of that country. There are so many cases of human rights abuses in Indonesia its sickening. Steve, stop giving her supporters a bad name man, you really arent making us look good.
I start a thread and am instantly attacked. I respond, and then the smears and downright lies start.
It becomes pointless: because whatever I say is just ignored. The venimous campaign from "sarah louise" continues, with one false allegation after another (and why would someone post dozens of foul messages against the Corbys if they weren't driven by something?).
Yet no-one looks at her conduct and wonders why. I guess its because she is one of your own.
Sure: I feel strongly about someone suffering like that. That's what drives me. Why don't you ask yourselves why drives her?
BTW: A debate isn't a debate when points made by one side are just ignored, and the other just seeks to open new channels of attack through totally false claims.
This woman is in jail on the basis of a shocking show trial. That is what the thread is about. They refused to test the evidence and then burned it. The so-called judge has never acquitted in over 500 drug cases.
These are the issues which are core: the issues for debate.
Ignored.
Why? Because they are facts. It is easier for those with dubious motives to steer well clear of them, and make foul accusations about the family. And then somehow I am presented as the bad guy, for shunning the tangents and trying to keep the thread on topic.
You know Steve, I think it's working... I'm starting to feel sorry for Schapelle.
Schapelle doesn't deserve to have conspiracy fanboys using her name to grandstand their stupidity.
I'm wondering Steve... why didn't you go ballistic when people called your post spam in other forums? You've been doing this for a few weeks now and I'm not the only person who has called it spam. But I am the only one you seem to have your knickers twisted about. Why keep coming back?
You're not exactly value adding to Schapelle's credibility.
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Originally Posted by SteveV
wow...seems like you need some of your own advise.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveV
BTW... (if it were a legit trial) how much time do you think you'd get in your or any country when trafficking 9 pounds into there country?
BTW2... youre actually lucky this thread wasnt shut down immediately. it seems the rules do not allow talk of smuggling...
...and with that I ask for this thread to be closed. it is a violation to have someone support a smuggler on this site.Quote:
More specific rules that appear elsewhere on the site and you might have missed
Other subjects we do NOT discuss here include:
-Other criminal activity. This includes but is not limited to: Smuggling, theft, violence, dealing, taking cannabis on public transportation.
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Here we go again: yet another tangent, yet another steer away from the real issues. More smears (against me this time) rather than on-topic debate. Pathetic.
They refused to test the evidence. Why would a real court do that? If she really did it, hey, her prints and DNA might be on it!
And hey, the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!
So why not test them as Schapelle asked? Why not? They could have nailed her, surely!
But they KNEW her prints could not be there and the drugs were not imported.
And so they burned them instead.
The issues. Remember them?
When you can't argue with them, it is a lot easier to smear people, isn't it?
If this case is as corrupt as you say then you should think about this logically.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveV
It is VERY VERY easy to transfer fingerprints, and with that transfer comes skin oil which would have her DNA on it. I suspect even if they did test it you would call them out on tampering with evidence or something.
Everyone here is tired of listening to your ranting.
ok on the issue of "the drugs might just have been from Aussie rather than an Indonesian plant!"Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveV
I, right now, have strains from afganistan, north america and some equatorial varieties ALL in the same spot growing. And for you to some reason think ANYONE would be able to detect the nationality of origin by the plant, strain, or anything else for that matter is ridiculous.
theres an issue i await your response:thumbsup:
I try to discuss ISSUES (again): yet again I am accused - this time of "ranting". Perhaps you should read the words I actually input and put your prejudice away.
Easy to transfer fingerprints? You've been watching too many James Bond movies. It isn't easy at all, and the probability of that regime having the ability to do it is almost zero.
"And for you to some reason think ANYONE would be able to detect the nationality of origin by the plant, strain, or anything else for that matter is ridiculous. "
You are displaying a serious lack of knowledge again. Forensic testing for origin is well established. It is business as usual for many labs.
Every territory has a unique blend of flora and pollen. It is almost impossible to extract this from a consignment. This would be the first and easiest approach to determine whether the drugs were from Indonesia or Aussie.
Again: if they thought she did it, they would have had these basic tests performed. Regardless of Schapelle asking for the tests, if they really thought she did it, THEY would have asked for the test! No: they would have just done the tests regardless and presented the evidence to nail her.
They KNEW the drugs were from Indoensia, just as they knew there was none of her DNA or fingerprints on them.
ive seen two guys on a tv show in a work shop defeat three different fingerprint technologies with very simple tools ie. tape used to fool an electronic scanning door lock. no lames bond, all very practical. you dont think that this ultra attacking government couldnt come up with something? (and no i dont believe everything i see on tv, so no need to go there)
ill give you the pollen thing as I had not thought of that. point steveV
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too tired to feed the troll anymore
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Steve is banned FINALLY so can we close this ridiculous thread now?
nope, not til the fat lady sings!!!
Ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall.....
Nintey nine bottles of beer.....
take one down......
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The drugs weren't tested for fingerprints OOOOOOOHHHH
As an ex-smuggler I know one of the first rules is never handle the merchandise without gloves. :thumbsup:
I could give you a few lessons in it if it wasn't a banned subject.
I got caught many years ago (1999) , I lost my liberty for 18 months , I lost 2 homes in Holland and the contents of 3 bank accounts amounting to over £270,000 because they were deemed "proceeds of crime".
I took the risk I paid the price, so did miss Corby.
Indonesian weed planted in incoming luggage to an Indonesian airport is totally illogical. Why ? :wtf:
If it was Indonesian then surely it was already at it's destination ?
Please explain the logic behind that one ??
Keep talking Steve and I'll keep laughing. :thumbsup:
Same, exactly my sentiment. I have discussed the laws of that country with extremely educated person's from it. And the first topic of social conversation were the strict laws being the reason there is no litter there! You don't visit a place and not check out the laws and punishment, if htat is your purpose for being there! People that live there know better and wait in lines to pay fines for littering. How could anyone think they are privileged to break a countries law and not be prosecuted under their laws! I was even told that certain crimes require castration and amputations of fingers (like for theft). That was in 1985. Perhaps, they aren't as severe now, but doesn't sound like it!Quote:
Originally Posted by psychocat
This is not activism, except to actively get Mr. Steve out of here. Most likely a one time beg for money! In fact, I am do not understand why the thread did not go with the ban! I will not search, but I bet, as someone said, it is on every forum you could get. Because, this is most likely a personal issue for you and there is something for you to gain from it!
We are all warned that the internet is a way for a person to part with their money to a swindler! If this is your first post on every site you went to. Alterior motive!
If I were as good as the others on this site: I'd thunbnail a picture of the beggars at the border in Mexico with a cup in their hand bugging the shit out of drivers waiting in line to return rom Mexico. Sorry, I missed Steve's avatar.
That would Singapore, rather than Indonesia.Quote:
Originally Posted by painretreat
No change there, Singapore still incarcerate without charge, publicly whip and humiliate law breakers (this is a country where it is a criminal offence to fail to flush a public toilet) and regularly hang both citizens and foreigners for a range of offences.Quote:
I was even told that certain crimes require castration and amputations of fingers (like for theft). That was in 1985. Perhaps, they aren't as severe now, but doesn't sound like it!
Under Singapore's morality laws a man can go to jail for wearing a bikini.
fraudulent possession of women's underwear
Indonesia is one of the more 'moderate' countries in the region.
Wow.....and we complain about getting a ticket for drinking and driving. USA ANY DAY!!
"Schapelle doesn't deserve to have conspiracy fanboys using her name to grandstand their stupidity"
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Just learned how to use smileys!!!
so what I am taking from this: STAY OUT OF SINGAPORE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah louise
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Originally Posted by illnillinois
If you fancy yourself in a pink bikini... I'd stay away from Singapore.
(or if you are inclined to spit on the pavement or drop cigarette butts, those offences will also get you thrown in a cell.)