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Yeah they were too wet and that was inhibiting them. Don't worry they are going to be ok now. Get some perlite and spread it in the tray. Just like a 1/4" deep. Then lay your rooter grid on top of that. FOr now just spray them down nice and humid and leave the dome on. That will due for a couple of days. Then you can add the water over the rooters and the excess will drain into the perlite and keep the rooters just moist enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
Thought I would kick out another set of pics for those of you who are following. She is kicking out super long pistils. I have never seen a plant kick out pistils that long. Usually with this strand I have alot of short pistils kicking out everywhere. She smells like the bomb though. More potent than I ever remember. Anyhow tell me what you think. Thanks!
I plan on blooming the shit out of her since she's all I got :D. I hope the kool bloom will help out. I haven't used any kool bloom but will introduce it in week 4 of feed.
that first pic makes me want to hold hands and sing carols around it.
looking good man.
LOL funny shit man.... fuck it, I would take a weed tree over a Christmas tree any day. How did you get the pic on your username?
So does anyone think that I can cut the big unnecessary fan leaves off the plant and only leave the bud sites in tact to help the buds absorb more of the light than the large leaves? I've heard of people doing that so that all the energy is focussed more into the buds rather than the leaves absorbing it all. Just curious!
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If you look up at the top of the page in the green bar you will see "User CP".. thats the control panel. Click that... go down the left side till you find "edit avatar". I just googled "funny avatar pictures" until I found one that fit me and most will give you a link to it. Just put that link in the custom avatar box and then save changes.
As far as the fan leaves go. Ive hear of that too, but I think it also had to do with airflow getting through the plant and more light getting to the other leaves that do more work and less storing energy. I think. Dont quote me on it.
No. I prune regularly and even posted something here with pics on pruning (maybe it should be a sticky;-)), anyway, the buds rely on the fan leaves to collect the light for it. Let's say you were in mid bloom with colas. If you cut off all your fan leaves, you would stop the plant and it would feebly try and push all of the fan leaves within the bud themselves to try and grab light.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAP420
What you can do (and should do) is trim off all of the fan leaves lower than the canopy of light and remove all of the pop corn buds that are not connected to a cola.
However, in YOUR situation, that will also cause the plant to shoot its growth upward and you would outgrow your tent because you brought them into flower too tall. So this time live with it and identify at harvest what bud sites were not worthy, and on the NEXT run use that knowledge of your plant to prune that crap and send the energy to the colas.
Wut's up Sap,
How r the babies doing comin back good I hope
I wouldn't prune anything I don't have to. if it's a branch that isn't gonna give me much bud it might be better off living the rest of it's life as a clone. you've got some space in the bubbler I see
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Actually the babies died man. I messed them up putting them in the bubbler. I shoulda put them in my dome tray setup and then once roots showed.. into the bubbler. Well I learned my lesson on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by d4twamp
I decided to cut off 2 new clones from the lower part of my girl and try to get them to root again this time using only my seedling tray with damp rapid rooters. I will wait till roots show before moving to bubbler this time. I do not have the dome over top, figured would be good to have fresh air since they aren't seedlings. I will post new pics in a while.
I think you want the dome over the top and mist the inside of it with water because the cuttings dont have roots to get the water out of the rooter so they have to get it through the leaves until the roots develop.
I'll try that man. Here are some new pics of pistils on the girl and some of her clones. I know its not the typical looking clone but its all I have to work with. Should work anyhow.
Its a little harder to clone a flowering plant, but like you said, it's the only thing you got to work with, so hopefully it will work out.
That cloning gel is good, also if you can get some Thrive-Alive B-1 20ml to a gallon of water and use that mixture to water your plants. In about 2 weeks you should have some good roots.
Sap,
How long has the mom been flowering, I've taken cuts from a flowering plant too they rooted pretty quick but took a lil bit longer to get to veggin again but that could be strain specific Idk ...
Try some neoprene collars in the cloner then when the the babies grow some feet transplant them into the hydroton and net pots, no plugs to over water or buy, just dip them in your rooting gel and into the bubbler. just my 2 honest abe's
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Hey, She has been in bloom mode now for 2 weeks and the clones are still nice, green, and perky so I will let them sit in the rooters and develop their roots hopefully. I have been misting them with water daily like hatecable suggested and taking the dome off twice a day to let some 'ol CO2 get in there. I don't have neoprene collars and I don't have a cloner setup, just a bubbler that I made. If I can get the roots to show up, I will have no problem getting them started up in my bubbler. I have done that before and it worked great. Thanks for the advice though :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by d4twamp
Here are some new pics of the plant. As you can see, I had to bend her some because she was getting awefully close to the lamp. The problem now is, as you can see, she keeps working her way back to the light. I want to know if I can "top" her and everything be all good. Will a new cola form at the top after I do that? As you can see she is kicking out some nice little nugs here and there. I added koolbloom to this change out and like seriously over night the buds starting popping up all over. This stuff is amazing so far! I am using the powder so all I used was a 1/4 tsp to 2 gallons of nute mix. Any advice is definitely welcome! :thumbsup:
Hey SAP ,
Curious why ya never topped em ? I used to get 8-10 headed monsters in the old sq. w/f .
Peace
Crispi :stoned:
Honestly man, I have no clue about topping. I always wondered why some of you get massive colas on your plants and just figured that it happened during the flower stage. Is it too late to even bother? And any tips on that would help. When you say topping your plant do you mean "fim"? I just learned about fimming a plant and will try on my next grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi
Topping & Fimming are 2 completely different animals.
I think you should try bending some branches down & tying them... LST is your friend :)
LST?Quote:
Originally Posted by dooobster
when you say tie them down, you mean to bend the limbs downward with string? which limbs should I bend down? The ones with the little nugs on them or no? Thanks for the info!
I wouldn't try topping now it's a little late in the game for that imho...but I agree w/ dooobster lst is your friend. tie down that main cola then when the lower branches catch up with the top tie them down, any lower branches that are only gonna produce popcorn cut em now. that's my 2 cents I lst'd a plant in dirt on my last crop for experimental sake, it looked like a mini X-mas tree lot, and was the biggest yielder and the smallest plant of the bunch
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Here are some pics of my new clones that I cut a few days ago. They are all three kicking out roots and the strangest thing is that they are even kicking out roots above the rooter but it looks like I have guaranteed girls for my next grow. Tell me what ya think!
DAMN Sap, that clone in the middle pic is gonna have a fatty stalk on her.
The rooting on top might be from the rooting hormone oozing out from around the stalk and out of the hole..that's happened to me before I used to use oasis cubes in the propagation tray w/ dome. I just recently built a bubble cloner like yours but w/ the neoprene collars...cut em, dip em, drop in the cloner, then transplant to net pots and start em vegging after their root system has developed..so much cheaper then buying a cloner retail.
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wow, that is pretty weird. there just horny and ready for some action.
Here is some good 'ole pics for your viewing pleasure. She is into week 3 of flower right now and the buds look very delicious so far. I have been going to college at night so I haven't been on as much but I decided to show the momma as she is moving right along. I am feeding her full bloom feed from the gh series nutes and I have added kool bloom to her as well. Seems to be working great! I also have a pic of her clones which I already have vegging in 3 water farms. When she is done blooming, I am going to start flower on her babies next. Tell me what ya think! Thanks for all of you that are following along and helping out!
shit sap she's a tall girl
yeah, she wasn't supposed to get that tall but shit happens ya know. I won't let the clones get near that tall.
hey bud, thinks its time for an update dont ya think?:D
yeah wuts goin on in sap's neck of the hood
Okay, I have been so busy with work and school and haven't had much time to do any updating but here is the latest. My girl is on her 3rd to last week of bloom and then I will be using straight water to clean the chemicals out completely. She has budded quite nicely and I expect to get about 3 oz. off of her. She smells very delicious I might add :). The kool bloom has really stressed her out as the label says it will do to help fatten up the buds. You might notice the yellowing of upper leaves which has to be due to the kool bloom. Anyhow enjoy.
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the yellow could also be the plant using up that last bit of nitrates as the bloom nutes don't use much or any nitrogen, just means less nutes to flush out..nice job... are your clones still kickin
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the clones are growing very slowly as I have not put them under a hid lamp yet..... but they seem a bit shocked still from moving them to my farms. We shall see how they do. I will put pics of them up in due time.
Lookin good man. Almost there! I dont know about you, but Im counting the days already and Im still 5 weeks out. Been home sick for the last 3 and counting those days has been slooow.
I really want to hear the difference from your normal yield to using the Kool Bloom. Ive wanted to get some so bad, but I have already spent a bit of money just getting set up starting from scratch again. I still have a couple weeks before I would use it, so.. who knows.
I wanna see you grow some good seeds one of these days. Gonna have to get you some powerful strain one of these days to grow.
Honestly man, I have noticed a major difference between with and without kool bloom. The buds are very dense compared to without and normally it takes longer for the buds to really fatten up but this seems to have kind of cut that in half. So I highly recommend kool bloom if you wanna get some good 'ole dense buds. :thumbsup:
Looking good man, whats the height on that lady now, and what was the strain again?
She's about 4.5 feet tall give or take without the waterfarm's height. I have no idea what strain this is. It is from some bagseed I had. I am too scared to order seeds. I love weed but not gonna risk jail time even though its just a damn bush.
Just a damn bush...lol... that cracks me up SAP
Ok, I decided to let her go for another week of feed because she seems to still keep fattening up on the buds. There aren't any red pistil on the big colas yet so I figured I should wait a bit longer before I start flushing with plain water. I have to say that from here on out I will always use kool bloom with my flowering plants due to the fact that I have never gotten buds this fat in any grow. I decided to put 1 pic up of the clones under their fluoro lamp. They are spacey because of the lamps low lumens. As soon as momma plant is done I will be moving them to flower in the tent.
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Yes as the title implies, I trimmed her down to nothing :). I got about .5 oz. just in excess little tiny nugs and I have the bigger colas dryer in the grow tent leaving the exhaust fan running nonstop as well as the circulating fan. I figure I will get about 3 oz off of her at the most but I will give the final weigh-in after they have dried completely. I did 1 full week of plain water to help flush her out. As far as koolbloom goes, the buds really fattened up more than ever. I will use bloom boosters for now on on future grows. I did noticed that with the bloom boosters, the plant was waaay stressed but damn they do work! I have these pics up so you can see my final harvest on this girl. I will have the clones in a different grow log in the actual grow log section as I should have put this in the grow log area as well. Tell me what ya think! Thanks! SAP