5*White Widow feminized. Coco.

Puffz, I see where you got your nickname - that's a heckuva spliff to puff! And, your rolling job is A1, my friend! Dang sweet roll! Sorry for all of the exclamation points; all of my yelling was probably part of the reason for your fall, eh? I'm glad to hear your main cola is still being fed through the snapped stem.

You've probably already done a search on the board, but it seems like snapping upper branches is an employed technique, much like lst'ing. I haven't ever really paid attention to the thread(s) which discussed this matter, but give them a look if you haven't already.

I know you are anxious to get your bubblers. I hate to hear the shipment is taking so long - probably due to a stoned shipping clerk getting your order out a few days late. At least your beauties are not suffering in the coco coir.

Be good out there, my friend!

lol nice pic Puffzter :rastasmoke:

Where's your update? I want to see how it's going! :thumbsup:

Here it is :)

Been a bit pissed off here. My bubblers are not coming. The seller who had 22 good reviews on ebay now have 25. Last three bad, stuff not sent. Filing my complaint tomorrow.

My plants are in super shape all of them but I am giving 2 of them a spanking now and then to keep them down. :P
Plant 4 is now on its 3rd stem bend. 1st was an accident but it didnt slow down and mind at all as far as I can tell so I am breaking its back now and then making it grow as the letter "Z" hehe. Its just too damn stretchy. Plant 3 has gotten 2 so far. Canopy is in quite decent shape now growing as a dome.
Still not a single miscolored leaf between the 5 of them and flowers everywhere. :D

Some (yet again) bad pictures followed by an updated detailed grow log for download. I still want more reviews of these logs so if u download tell me what you think and what possibly could be made better.

One of the 6 stems of FIM'd plant #5:
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A few group pics:
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Click for detailed log on this link:
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Cheers
Puffzter

Here is a pic of my 2 Hundu Kushes that are grown from seeds in round pots and 8 surviving clones out of 10 from the WWs.
I took 2 clones from each WW and the one of the WWs that turns out the best will have it's clone mothering my future WW grows is the plan.

The HK's will (if one turn out female) mother a future Hindu Kush grow as well.

HK's are on day 24 and the clones on day 19.
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Puffzter

A few days ago I read from Opie, I think, that stretching will reduce yield.
What are you seeing as your results? curious! thanks pr:jointsmile::jointsmile:

Well, I have one plant and to some extent one more that want to grow higher and faster than the others.
This is not because of bad light though as they recieve the same light as the others but it just seem to be in their genes to do so.

My stretchiest one is gonna be my top yeilder I am quite sure seen from the insane flower growth on it, dense and plenty of them. Even the side branches grow really big flowers on this one. Maybe my FIM'd one will beat it but I kinda doubt that, maybe.
I don't think you generally can say that stretch = lower yeild. I am quite sure that if it stretches because of bad or too distant light that will be the case though.

Puffzter

Puf! U R exactly right, 'due to lightning' issues. Excellent pick-up. trying to keep my posts short so did not list it all!! Pretty neat!! :thumbsup::jointsmile: pr

Your buds are making my mouth drool, like a 95 yr. old in a conv. hosp. at 5PM waiting for breatfast!!! drool ++++++++++++++++++++ pretreet. :hippy:

If i were a bunny, I'd be in the new grow hi n as much leaf as possible! lol !

hey, puffster! glad to finally see some flowers! plants look f'n A healthy! hope your yeild is nice. sucks about the bubblers though...

Hey Puffzter,

Looking great man, that flower room of yours is burstin' ;) Clone rooms lookin' sweet too!

Interesting discussion on the stretching. With my white widows they all stretched quite a lot and i thought it may of been insufficient light, them stretching to compete for the best light as they were pretty short on space in my tent. But i've got some G13xskunk in there now, one has stretched uncontrollablly, more so than the WW and yet another has barely stretched at all. All of these were grown from seed and the only difference i can think of is the one that stretched the least had been vegged for the longest and had a lot of pruning to keep it short. Perhaps they stretch more when they are a little immature? (mature clones stretch much less than plants from seed, i can vouch for that as my clone of a stretchy WW was much more compact) I waited for alternating nodes on all the plants, around 4-5 weeks, but the short G13 had about 8 weeks veg.

Ye I don't know tbh.

What I do know is that my plant #4 from seed always raced ahead and in its stretch period insanelly did so. Even if it was 4 inches from the 600W it raced 1½-2 inches a day.
They all gre a lot during this period but every other day plant 4 grew one inch more than the others so 10 days into the stretch period it was 10-12 inches taller than the next one and got slammed with a serious emergency break. Broke it's spine 3 times now hehe. It still grows hard but has slowed down a bit and the Z shape it is growing in also helped to keep height down.

As for the clones it's interesting. I will surelly keep a close eye on it when I do my next grow from clones with the same genetics.
A clones birth age is the age of its mother so in my case my clones started as 28 days old from seed. The plants I took the clones from were growing hard then but it was a few days before the stretch period started for real so in theory the clones should start growing hard as soon as they rooted. Can't say that they have so that sugests that your theory stands.
This might cause me to reconcider alltogether actually.
My plan was to more or less discard plant 4 clones even though that plant shows excellent signs of becoming a top yeilder on the basis of it being too unmanagable o grow indoors. I am leaning to plant 5 clones for mothers and I still do as it is a beautiful plant with a LOT of flowering and close between nodes. Plant 4 (the stretchy one) was fastest to start flowering and is building on hard though and from what we seem to have discovered here just might be in the race still now then.

Nice discussion by the way, thanks for picking up on it and coming with very valuable input.

Puffzter

Thanks for allowing the discussion in your thread, it cleared a lot more up and understandable for me!

OMG I love those pix!!! Pretty neat thread! :jointsmile:

Let me just start with a saying that I really love getting mails like this:


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So keep posting, I really appreciate that people take an interest and I am very happy to answere any questions or discussing whatever about my humble grow.


Pain:
Thanks again for the positive you spread around you in mine and other peoples threads, really glad to read any post from you. <3

I am working very hard with my (just 5) plants so those bubblers would have been a good addition to ease the workload but now it s like it is and I will stay on top of it all and make the best of it until I find another solution. My plants have become my babies something I would never had thought when I stumbeled into a MJ growing forum in the beginning of june never having had a single thought about growing anything but it really cought my interest causing me to start reading kilometers of text (literally) and watching all kinds of movies etc about growing before finally feeling ready to take the step into starting up this on my own creating a very rewarding (in so many ways) hobby for myself.
That people actually are interested enough to follow what I do is flattering to say the least.
That it is going so well is even more surprising. I am just waiting for a major screw up here but I am trying to make decissions based on what I have learned from all you guys.

I also have a bit of an interest in writing causing me to certainly type for hours a day, here being just a fraction of that, and might make my own thread a bit hard to follow out of text mass alone. Sorry for that if so. :P
English is not my mother tongue as well so I surelly can understand that it might be a bit contra productive to write this much all the time but I just can't help myself hehe.

Cheers

Puffzter

Puffz, it's always a pleasure to read your log, my friend! I always appreciate the pictures, but your writing is always top notch. I could not tell English was not your native language until you had revealed same. Don't ever feel the need to apologize for getting long winded - I love reading and writing; sometimes I'll become lazy and want to simply ogle pictures, but the descriptive nature of words oftentimes paints a more detailed picture than a picture itself.

I'm glad to see your grow going so well. Glad to see your efforts in training your stretchy WW are working. It amazes me how resilient and vibrant mj plants are! I'm sorry to hear of your bubblers, but know you will have some on order and receive them soon.

Take good care out there, my friend! Have a great weekend!

Thanks Jake.

I am not so much training them as going Mike Tyson on their asses but they truly seem resillient even though they are feminized from seeds they are showing a remarkable strength in genetics and just wont go crossdressers no matter what I do to them it seems.

Right now they are flowering fully and are fattening up. Sugar is starting to form on all plants and plant 3 has a top on one of the sidebranches that is truly beautiful. Not spectacular in any way but so perfectly formed and getting more and more frosty by the hour almost.
I sit with a book in my growroom with the tent fully open and read an hour now and then occasionally watching these increadible plants that are growing in my walk in closet to perfection. They truly have become more to me than I thought when deciding to have a go at this.
Almost make me sad when I think about the fact that ultimatelly I will be their executioner.

I still havent decided on which one of them is gonna be the mother for the future grows of WW. All of them have clones under 24/0 of which one or two will become a future mom but I still can't decide. All 5 are showing vigor and terrific flower production but which one is best?
Will I have to grow the clones until I have test smoked the weed from all 5 plants and know everything about their individual yeild and quality?
I don't know.
I hope it wont come to that as it will cause me to have 8 huge plants in my clone area for quite some time but I just can't decide yet. How do one decide which one of ones babies are really the favourite anyway?
When the colas start to fatten up proper I hope I can come to a decission and gather the resolve needed to kill off the non choosen clones. ;)

At the same time as all this is going on my Hindu Kushes are almost ready to put in 12/12 to make them show sex so I can get a mother of that strain as well. I only have 2 plants and don't know sex so hopefully one is female and with decent genetics so it can mother some indica for me as well.
Time will tell.
Gonna try to shoot a few pics now with my shitty crap camera. If I get something decent I'll natrually post asap.

Peace.

Puffzter

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I am not so much training them as going Mike Tyson on their asses ....

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Flippin' hilarious! Just try not to bite a chunk off their ears, eh?

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who felt quite a bit of guilt in chopping down a plant. When I determined to harvest my Mighty Freeze, I felt like a schlep. But, once she dried up for a couple of days, my guilt disappeared.

It sounds like you have much to consider in deciding upon a mother. I wish I could be of help to you in this regard, but I have not ventured down that path yet. After spending as much time and attention with and on your plants as you have, I know it will be difficult selecting only one, but hopefully one will really stand above the rest upon maturation of their buds.

As always, it's a pleasure to read your log, my friend! And, there is nothing wrong with your pics - if they are not as high in pixels as some, your words more than make up for it!

A bunch of pictures taken but only one turned out ok. Actually I am even quite happy with it which sais a lot.

Cola of plant 4 with some surrounding flowers from other tops and branches.

Enjoy.
Day 23 12/12

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Puffzter

lol .....lol....lol!!!!
If you take off an ear, be sure it is a bud, ready to cure!!

I am amazed at how you have only had green and good grow. Makes me want to jump out and get Excel and only have more to learn!!!

I am sure I read a thread by the stinkster on how she choose's clones! As I re-call: It was-ease of grow, health of plant, quality of bud and yield. Plus, bug free, etc. all the things you've enjoyed in your grow! I do not recall if she mentioned, size, but surely she did! I think you have to test all of the smokes first!! Why not, after all that work!!! I can only get dial-up or I'd jump around and find her post. In fact, I think she has a clone log, as well!

Frankly, I just love that #4! Guess, I love a challenge and you have 'tackled'- I mean wrestled with it very well!

Right now I am enduring the hard time of the year, it doesn't cool off much at night. Outdoor can be so unpredictable! Guess, I'll have to get Excel and just repeat your grow!!! I just love it and I know exactly what you mean about gardening. I use to have a vege one yearly and was addicted to it. It is a lot of fun. Plus, all the different things you can do with them. Can hardly wait, until you get into genetic breeding.

Is that your cute little Kitty? Looks pretty and big! What a sport!

You never mentioned the smell, I do not recall, anyway! How is the smell?
PR thanks for a little chuckle, always a good thing to have a good sense of humor when doing this!! :thumbsup: :hippy:

Hey Pain. :)

They smell like hmm don't know the word. You know that weed that grow around barns and in high grass that give you a sting if u touch them. Nettles or something like that. Word just popped up in my head but not sure. I am not english speaking. ;) A bit richer than that but about so. However, my charcoal filter takes 100% of the smell away and outside the growtent you cant feel a thing even though I tried putting my nose in the exhaust airflow.

I would love to breed tbh. I know I am a rookie but some day it would be really nice. Need more space though.
Now I have one meter square (about 10 sq ft) for flowering and 2*2 ft for vegg/clones mothers so I am cramped.
I'd love a big basement or something like that to play around in so I could do some serious work some day.

Anyway, it seems I was either lucky like hell or Dutch Passion just sells feminized WW's with really really good genetics.
All five seeds, even though they are not completelly uniform, show very good qualities. No bug attacks, no bad reactions to anything and all started to flower within 24h from eachother. All have very big flower production as well. They are all different but none of them have shown a single sign of problem so how do one choose? I mean, still out of these five very big plants I have not seen one leaf with a spot on it or any miscoloration (since the poison hut). Ofc Yeild and quality of smoke will be a huge factor since nothing else (yet) can make me decide.
Problem with that though is that there will be a time lapse between harvesting and being able to flower the next batch while I wait for end results and then clone the corresponding mother and start a clone SoG with them. I guess I could fill that gap with a Hindu Kush grow if one of my two turns out to be a decent female.
Maybe a ScrOG. There is so much hate agains males in the world og Mj that it kinda would feel good to put a few females behind bars, even if it only is chicken wire. ;)

In the end. I don't have a perfectly worked out plan of action yet so I just keep my options open for now keeping clones alive from all of them and the HK's in veg. Would be great to have one more growtent for flowering so I could run two separated flowering OPs at the same time but I think I am overproducing badly as it is. Mainly growing for the fun of it and to satisfy my need to learn more about everything. I don't smoke a lot, don't have any friends that smoke at all and selling, even though money is always welcome, sooner or later only leads to ME being ScrOG'ed and not behind chicken wire.
Guess I'll just stock up. lol.

The only goal I have is to within a few cycles go for a grow with its sole purpouse being to get .5g/W and month. If I can manage that in a flat SoG I can show to myself black on white that I know my shit and have managed to put my theoretical knowledge mixed with what I have learned practically to use.

Time will tell. It's just so interesting all this with so many ways of doing it and so many variables to play with that I am sure I have found a hobby that wont make me bored in a loooong time.

There you go, some reading. hehe

Puffzter

Look at this.
It's from a Hindu Kush that turned out male and got discarded. It was a fast growing plant and very healthy EVEN though it was this root bound.
Plants growing in coco can ofc experience problems from being root bound but you have to take it to the extreme for that to happen. The more rootbound they become the more frequently you need to water them however. The coco give out no nutrients but it does hold the moisture for the roots to feed off and that's why it can be grown in such small pots if one are prepared to tend to them a LOT.

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/fa6eed63.jpg

I did throw a few clones out today together with one Hindu Kush. I now have one HK left so it HAS to turn out female. ;)

I have clones left from all the WWs that still are possible mothers for the future. All but #1 which I think is growing a bit strange. It flowers well but have some issues. Nothing big but the other 4 plants have none so their clones are still saved even though I cut down on the numbers a bit and saved the ones that look best to grow into bushes to mother future WW grows.
In the end only one or two out of the 5 remaining clones will be saved as my future WW genetics.

Puffzter

Very interesting!!

I was wondering why my plants seem to be doing ok in 2 gallon pots. I just remembered MG Moisture Control has coco in it and your pics and insite are giving me a good idea as to what is happening in my grow.

Great post, helped me alot :thumbsup::thumbsup:

JG

Ok time for a small picture update since I at last got a few decent pictures.
White Widow plants are on their 28th day of flowering and looking great. Sugar forming on buds and fan leaves all over the place.
Plant 5 (the FIM'd one) has 6 stems and a bunch of side branches forming buds. The main stems on this one are all growing 12+ inch colas already but one of the stems on this one is growing a whopping 20 inch top bud. :D
Dark period is 3am-3pm and that way I am always awake and can tend to them and cuddle with them during all their waken hours. That I do a lot. Picking off a leaf that has lived its life, putting a fan leaf to the side if it blocks a flower. Keep the tent clean. Water, adjust the light and the fans and check temperature and humidity all the time and keep notes of everything. I will not let any of my girls start dating until they are 40 and god save any boy that make them pregnant. One that tried to sneak up on them in the clone/veg chambre just around the corner swiftly got killed for even being in the neighborhood. :mad:

Temperature in the tent is 28 degrees C at the top of the plants which is about 79-81 F I believe without checking exactly. Humidity is 45-52% which is also perfect.
I nuke them with 1450ppm and they drink about 1 litre/plant and day now. Thats a bit over 1/4 gallon.
Here we go.

First one is that 20 inch bud formation on one out of 6 main stems of plant 5. The bottle is a 1.5 litre (50 Oz) hehe.
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Picture through the opening of the tent. Plants are about 4-4.5 ft tall by now. Closest plant is FIM's #5.
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Last 2 overview pictures.
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Puffzter

Holy Shit dude! Pretty Serious! I forgot about your grow log! Subscribed! What Watt are you flowering with?

600W HPS in a cooltube.
And welcome as a subscriber. ;)

Puffzter

looking sick brah!

mmm white widow :food10:, my favorite

Man, this is an incredible first grow. All the research has really paid off for you. If you really hang out with them that much, I think that qualifies for a C02 assisted grow:D Hopefully my WW turns out even remotely that good. It would be really cool to see your excel logs, but alas I dont have excel. I am kinda doing the same thing but with notepad:wtf: May have to find a copy of excel or some other spreadsheet to satisfy my taste for organization.

I dont know about the others, but Im already excited about the weigh in.

There are cracked excel for download on piratebay and such. I downloaded a full office pack 2007 from there, works as a a charm. ;)

Updated excel grow log with detailed info day by day will be posted within a couple of days.

Thanks for the kind words by the way and yes I am thinking about CO2 but before that I think I will go for 2*600W hps in cooltubes instead of one to get a more even light distribution and ofc more of it. I think I can keep temperatures under control. Maybe I go for both at the same time as the higher temperatures will be less of a problem with CO2 anyway as the optimal growing temperature goes up a bit in a CO2 rich enviroment.

Now, I could easilly satisfy my needs with half of what I am growing atm and probably even much less and I will not sell. My buddies don't smoke so I am facing a bit of a problem here hehe.
So to optimize even more makes no sence really in my case but for me it does. I like doing things as good as possible and it's very hard to not do ones best. That can be measured in many ways quality being one and quantity being the easiest to measure.
In the case of a given genetics I do not think quantity automatically means lower quality since a happy plant both produce a lot and produce good quality. If you choose genetics solely for yeild quality might suffer though but given that genetic the best quality will be had by keeping it happy.

So, in the end yeild is a good way to keep track of ones progress I think. But, you can only compare with similar setups or your own earlier results. And grows with the same genetics. A good Haze grower wont stand a chance against a decent PPP grower I mean.

There are a few things I believe makes out the corner stones of what you need to know and understand to grow well.

* Light is VERY important. Give them as much as u can and reflect back as much as possible from walls and floor. Photosyntesis makes carbonbased building blocks for your plants and the more of those the faster and healthier the plant grows. As long as you don't heat burn your plants more is always better.

* Air flow: Understand how the air flows through your growspace. You constantly need to get fresh air flowing through all parts of your plants. Why? Well fresh air contains CO2 and CO2 feeds the photosyntesis. The most important nutrient your plant "eats" is CO2. It is of such importance that simplified you can say that nutes in the water and soil are only there to make the uptake of CO2 possible. A plant is made up of mainly carbon and 100% of that comes from the air. Good nutes are really important but the bottle neck is in the photosyntesis. Its easy to satisfy a plants nutrient needs but VERY hard to optimize the CO2 uptake.
In my growarea I had passive intake on the floor below the charcoal filter hanging in the roof sucking air out. A lot of my fresh air went 2 meters straight up and got sucked out. So, I put a small fan on the floor at the intake blowing the fresh air into the center of the room to be sucked up through the plants canopy instead. The bigger fan moving the air over the canopy was also moved directly above the air intake so it would get any air trying to escape directly from intake to exhaust. It blows it on to the canopy now. Results from this change could be seen in a few days in the vigor of the plants.
In short, watch your growspace and try to figure out how the air moves. Take measures to get as much of the intake air as possible to move through your plants before it moves out of the room again.

* Keep it clean. Dead leaves or what have you attracts pests. Once you get those you are in Irak. Sure you can keep them at bay but there are no certain ways of winning per se or stopping the attacks completelly. So, don't give pests an easy way in. Avoid having living leaves touching the grow medium as well. Get them off the plant if they do. (I don't in any way mean that Irakies are pests by the way just that the war wont be won once it is started, there will alway be pockets surviving and starting new attack sooner or later) In short try your absolute best to not come into a situation where this will be an issue.

* Know your genetics. If you read up you will learn how the plant is expected to grow. If you learn that a plant grown freely will grow explosive upwards during its 3rd week you might wanna train it before that if you grow indoors. ;) I made this mistace and now have room to spare horizontally but are fast running out of space vertically. That is not a good way to grow. I could have used my grow space better. Keep that canopy even and use up horizontal space rather than vertical. The less light that hits the floor and the more even canopy you have the better. Top, FIM, ScrOG, SoG, LST to make that happen.

* If you never ever nuteburned your plant you are under feeding it. Slowly go harder and harder on nutes until you do see signs of burns. Keep notes. Once you do hit the wall back off a bit and you can be certain you are at an optimal level for your strain and your grow op. Do keep notes though so you know the next time. Also know that generally they can take more and more as they get older so your first time around you might do this a few times.

Know these simple things and try to use that knowledge as good as possible and the rest will be much easier imo.
These points are a part from the obvious natrually. You need to know how to water, choose medium and grow technique, genetics etc etc but that is a given. Once you have started to grow and have choosen your equipment I think these 5 points are the most important to become as good as possible in.

Now I am no expert at this but I do know what I need to know and need to learn (which is still a lot).

My next time around I will plan more ahead and know better what to expect and be ready for that before it happens.

Puffzter
(you have to excuse my fingers sometimes I plan for a short post and the bastards just wont stop typing)

To ease up a bit after that...
Here is my plant #5 alone when I had them all out to check for troubles or any male flower on them and to turn them 180 degrees when they went back in.

6 long colas, only 5 can be made out on the pic though, one is hidden behind the others. Day 29 of 12/12 lighting and I cant wait for them to fatten up in the weeks to come. :D

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/21a415bd.jpg

Puffzter

Great grow log, nice work dude....can't wait to see some hot bud porn....:thumbsup:

damn dude nice setup

:stoned:

This is really impressive!
How big is the plant now? Which size do you have on your pots?

Do you think they are rotbound?

*Sorry if I'm misspelling, I am swedish...

No they are not rootbound but there are a lot of roots in the pots natrually. 6.5 litre pots but I do grow with coco, you can't use that small pots in a soil grow. With coco you can but you have to water them very frequently to keep the medium from drying up which is a bad thing with coco. A soil grow would take at least double sized pots to stay clear of problems.
I have lifted them out of the pots and it looks fine.
They grow normally and none have any issues what so ever.

I'll take a picture of the rootsystem and post later.

Puffzter

Here you go.
Plant 5s rootsystem in 6.5 litre coco. Day 30 Flower.
Growing in coco is in fact a hydro grow. All nutes comes added with the hydroponic solution which is the water/nute mix. The coco only serves as a medium to hold the moisture for a while and keep the roots moist and food availible. As long as there is room for the rootmass and there is enough coco to KEEP the roots from drying out you wont go rootbound.

http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/7fac7a0b.jpg

Puffzter

I love that plant right there. Gimme about 10 min in a closet with it and we'll be good to go.

I got my airflow figured out pretty good i think. I have a standard vent shroud that kinda angles the air into the middle of the cab and then the lower fan creates a bit of turbulance before it gets sucked out the top. Also I made my cab seal completely except for the intake and exhaust. There is a slight negative pressure so that you can hear the change when the doors shut and it can hold a small sheet of paper against the back of the intake. Oh and the intake has a super filter that is supposed to stop pollen and allergens so Im not worried about bugs getting in unless i open the doors. I do need to read up some more on what the expect out of the WW though. Right now I know its a light feeder.. and I really want to smoke it:D

It is hard to burn it once it is 2-3 weeks above ground so WWs can be fed a lot, true.
Sounds like u did a good job on your arflow m8.

About growth.
I don't know what genetics your WWs are (what breeder do they come from?) but if they are anything like mine unFIM'd plants will start their first stretch period around 4 weeks after they broke ground. For 10-14 days they grow insanelly then. 1½-2 inches/day then slow down and 10 days later I got a one week stretch period again aftr that they kept on normal growth again.
My FIM'd one had the same periods but less explosive stretching. 1-1.5 inch/day.

Puffzter

That sounds like even more of a reason to fim. If it slows down the stretching yet you get more cola's, I dont think you could ask for much more. I had contemplated fiming twice, or maybe just toping the second time. If it does create 6 new tops then you topped it would put 2 on each of those. Im not sure if that would be too much, maybe for my growth space. I thnk weedhound topped twice for her monsters she's been working on. I know I dont have room for one of those for sure.

My flowers are fattening up really well now especially on 3 of the plants.
I am starting to get buds proper instead of flowers. Hi hi hi. Happy times.
It sucks I don't have a camera good enough for extreme close-ups.

The smell is just wonderful. The closest I can come to describe it is that they smell like a room does after you mopped your floors with a cleaning product with lemon in it. Very fresh smell. :)
Touching the buds makes your fingers nicelly sticky as well.
Gonna be really interesting to see what the coming days and weeks will do to my plants.

Puffzter

I swear, they need to invent scratch 'n sniff pictures for computers. That sounds awesome. For that matter, tell them to go ahead with the scratch 'n toke pictures too.

Could'nt resist shooting a few more pics of my white white White Widows. :P

Maybe lucky I don't have kids yet. If I pampered them as much as these plants they would turn out fucked up for sure. hehe

Plant 5 (FIM'd one)
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0525.jpg

Overview of some sidebranches flowers:
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0524.jpg

Two bad attempts to shoot plant 4 bud.
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0508.jpg
http://i314.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/DSCI0505.jpg

Puffzter

Puffzter: What an amazing first grow! I am endlessly entertained by your skill and of course, your new hobby! Very impressive. And what else for: gratitude of self!! Great accomplishment. That is one heck of a long bud!!! I am so impressed. Looking for some clones now!! 2 hard to get right now, a lot of legal stuff in Calif. right now. Too late for seeds and was too hot last week!

I need excel and have no idea as to piratebay. Perhaps, mastering the PC should be my first project. Somehow, I won't find that equally as satisfying until I've had my:silly: gro! :woohoo:

I love the new avatar!!! It was so cute had me laugh right off the bat! Is that your kitty! Cutie?? Pr :jointsmile:

Thanks so much for all the info. much appreciated!! Pr