glad you are back bozo! hope you don't run into anymore hardships! can't wait for the new log.
i was trying to hold it down.
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glad you are back bozo! hope you don't run into anymore hardships! can't wait for the new log.
i was trying to hold it down.
-shake
i know its been awhile for this tread,which is an excellent one but,can anyone tell me if can use the root hormone with this system because I don't have the super-thrive yet
Yes use it. The gell is better but powder is good too get a start.
This hasn't been said enough THANK YOU I was considering buying an EZ Cloner once my state license comes through but this guide sounds awesome. Thank you for taking the time to help someone like me save $200.
thanks bozo, this is a real money saver.I am in the process of making one now!
awesome awwesomewesome this is just what i was looking for!!
so do you leave the clones uncovered or do you still cover them to keep humidity?
EDIT: Ok I read thru post and answered my own question my badd.. But still thanks somuch I really needed something like this im tired of cloning with peat pellets in a humidity dome with shitty success rate and more often then not wilting problems.
Hey Y'all!
What a kick-ass thread.
I 've had a very similar rig set up ...tried it once with no success.
After going thru this thread, I think I'll try it again.
Just one questtion I'd like to ask...I gotta quart jug of Olivia's cloning solution that's just sittin' around taking up space...Do y'all think it would it help or hinder putting some into the cloner? If so, at what mix? Prolly a dumb question but I got the stuff and feel a need to use it before it goes to shit..Kind of a waste not want not child of the poor thing I was raised with.
Peace, Love and Light to All!.....J
Use the cloning solution as directed on bottle. I use gel on the clones before putting in bubble cloner seems to work.
Aye aye on the great post.
I've read alot about cloning and also noticed about a week ago that many of the cloners people are selling on ebay are basically this cloner (or at least very similar and home made). Glad I finally gathered some real info on it.
As for me inputting anything...
Always use aquarium silicone when dealing with living things, especially if you plan to consume them/it. Regular silicone caulking can outgas for MANY months. Where as aquarium silicone only outgases a few days. Even then the gases are far less harmful. Unless you plan to cure the cloner for say,.. a year!
I also have a suggestion for holding down the airstones. I keep a reef aquarium and buy an epoxy at my local aquarium shops which is completely reef safe, drys under water and has no harmful effects on my corals, clams, shrimp, sea cuccumber or any other thing living in there. It dries VERY quickly and can be used in the running aquarium to glue down live corals, glue rocks together or any other thing (like smuthering an aptasia). It comes in a stick. You cut off the size chunk you will use, mush the inner and outer layers together, then stick it on whatever your sticking it on. I've even used it to make handles on my glass top over eight years ago and it's still there. Being this stuff hardens into basically a rock, you could either epoxy it to the bottom of the bin or just make stone beads to slip over the lines for added weight.
Again great thread,... WHY ISN'T THIS A STICKY??:thumbsup:
Tried the bubbler again 12/10/09.Took 6 cuttings and already have a 50/50/ sucess rate...eeeehaaa!!!Thanks a bunch, my freinds......J
I looked this morning and find that I have 6 out of 6 cuttings nicely rooting!Now I gotta figure out where I'm gonna put it all.....Yahoo!!!
So after reading this thread almost a year ago I finally am making a cloner for myself. I bought a big bag of Root Riot plugs last OCT08 and trying to use them up first, but that ain't going to happen cause I am not happy with the results I was getting. Thanks again for such a user friendly thread!
Amazing, exactly what I was looking for! I have tried something similarly cheap, but apparently I used just the wrong products. hah! Time to make this one, I hate these rockwool plugs. :)
hello folks, sorry i've not been around for a while but life has a way of
getting in the way sometimes.
anyway, i figured i'd post an update here in the interests of full disclosure
as i am no longer using my bubble cloner.
i switched to a simple wick-style cloner that i found on another forum that
i like better because it is simpler and cheaper while still giving me nearly a
100% success rate.
here are a few pics of a run that i let go for 17 days, just because i wanted
to slow them down some, what i mean is that i left them in for several days
longer than they needed to be left.
...and here is a link to the original thread.
World class cloner new at walmart - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
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odd you posted on here today.:D
I bought the air pump, hose, air stones and superthrive today. Plus visited 3 Home depots, two Lowes and one Walmart before coming home to do a web search for the black tub.
I planned to post that the container store now has them, but otherwise none of the others. :thumbsup:
Either way, still a great thread.
Leave it to Bozo to find this for us...THANK YOU SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These methods are always fun to learn!:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by Vancefish
thanks to you both and my apologies for not responding sooner,Quote:
Originally Posted by martyrprojekt
i've been without access for quite a while now.
anyway, it looks like i have reliable access again so i hope
to begin participating again
justanotherbozo, thanks for posting this information, it was exactly what I was looking for! I just built my system tonight, but instead of pipe insulation, I used one of those foam pool noodles as material. They sell them at the dollar store and make excellent plugs, and you get like, 8 feet of it for 1 buck :-)
Quick question for you or anyone who has used this system: I'm using a DWC right now and will be taking clones soon. The mother is a clone I obtained that was already rooted in rockwool. My question is, once my new clones grow roots using justanotherbozo's inatructions, do I then place the rooted clones inside a rockwool cube and then place in the hydroton/netpot? I can't figure out how the plant supports itself without being rooted inside a medium, and seeing the size of of some of those roots in the pics, I can't figure out how those long roots fit inside the rockwool.
I built something similar to this about 3 months ago and damn it if I am not having nasty problems. I have the exact same tub even, did you get at container store? At any rate I think what the problem is that my cups (I use 2" netcups and star collars) don't sit on the lid correctly and leave pin holes. Notice how the lid undulates up and down in channels? You will find that once the holes are cut, you wont have a clean surface for the netcup lid to sit on and as such pin holes and slits are left behind. I have plenty of panda film and created a nice sheet to lay over the lid before inserting the cups, but that doesn't seem to work all that well either. I orginally tried DWC in this system and was able to get some clones rooted and into my system but I had to cut their stay short for fear of algae. I was having to clean the system every 3 days.
The second I filled the cups with coco. I watered once a day with a timer and let the bubbler go for 15 minutes. Total failure. Coco cant handle that much water. Then I emptied the cups filled with half coco and hydroton and failed again. Coco again can not handle that much water. I have a 3 head disk fogger which worked pretty well as I recall when I attempted to grow in fog when I first started growing in general. I learned that mature plants aren't easily grown in fog but clones are I found. I recall vividly how quickly those plants started to sprout. Hopefully I can find a way to make this little box work with a fogger now.
Please forgive the ugliness of my closet. That area has been flooded before and caused water damage to the baseboards and what not. Too broke to fix it all.
Hey, not sure if this thread is still active but I've absorbed a lot from this thread. I was curious if folks had any luck without the Superthrive and/or Thrive Alive additives? Also, anyone using any Hydro nutrients as part of this? In short I'm curious if I can do without additives and, if so, should I bother with, say, 1/4 strength nutes.
Thanks!!
NS
I use Ph'd water only with fresh cut stems. In standing water will take about 2 weeks; With an airstone about 1 week. Superthrive will get em goin sooner.
Hey all...
I know what I've made is pretty close to the same thing here but its still a bit diff, should I expect to see basically the same results if attended to properly?
I clipped the fan leaves back and let them heal before taking the clones and I dipped them in a cheap root hormone I got from a HGC. The bubble stone is 5" long and its pretty bubbly. LOL The clone stems hang down about 3/4" bellow the foam block they're in and also only about 3/4" from the water surface too. The water was adjusted to 6.2 and the only thing added was a little glob or rooting hormone that I mixed in well.
I put the clones on the bottom shelf to keep them out of direct light. Where they're at wont be too much or too little light will it?
:rastasmoke: And, WTF, if they die (i hope not) this was just an experiment anyhow, gotta learn sometimes...
I betting that is to dark for them
Really? I could drag em out from under the shelf a little more to up the light but I figured they were getting plenty until the roots show.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinytoon
I'll give em a bit more light and keep a close eye on em.
:D Thanks