LOL...i gotta sense of humor WH, no worries..I am to damn stoned right now to remember much though...only a few grams left of the JHxBB:(
WT
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LOL...i gotta sense of humor WH, no worries..I am to damn stoned right now to remember much though...only a few grams left of the JHxBB:(
WT
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...-crowd-17.html
Hey Gl.....go to page 17 of my c crowd log and read up on what we did to the white widow to try and combat the same problem you are having with your plants.....a few pics there too. Hope the info helps. ;)
I seen those roots SICK. I'm going t chance it I'm going for the Largest WF Buckets EVER. Is that correct if it work? I will give it a shot but I have my bails of pro mix waiting. The whole LST thing is new to me I just want to support them the way they stand now and not LST any IDEAS?
Well you don't have to bend the branches in order to help support them.....tie the tape to the main stem if you want.....we've done that before and it worked fine.
Just remember to do both sides equally.
WH do you think it could be possible that I do not have major root development?
Remember when I was hitting them W/ 1500PPM's they blew up to be monsters.
I ripped 4 out today and looked at all the roots. In C Crowd I seen the roots and I could not believe the way the hydrotone was stuck to all the roots. When I opened those 4 the roots were not even close to that yet the stems strength is a concern I think cause there are not enought roots. I put them to 12/12 I'm cutting all th clones. I'm giving them the best environment possible lets see if they give anything back.... Worst case I will be ready....
Thank You so much for everything GL 420
You are a great help and a great friend Thank You
Yes that could be exactly OR the opposite problem somewhat which is that the roots get so crammed in that red bucket because there is nowhere else for them to grow to that they end up dying off and then rotting. This is the issue we dealt with several times in previous grows and really got out of control in our last few grows when our zyme product become outdated and we didn't know it and couldn't understand why we were starting to see so many root problems all of a sudden.
I then beat my hydro man into a corner and got hold of the following information: First of course was that my cannazym was too old. He also sold me something called root excualator which I haven't used yet but was quite expensive. He also recommended something called Rhizotonic for the roots to assist with root growth.
What's the difference between these? Rhizotonic helps grow better, more and stronger roots. Cannazym takes dead and dying roots (as in later flowering plants or where your roots die off because they are all crammed together and makes them an inert material....ergo....they don't rot! Pretty cool eh?
The only big restriction is that you cant use either on in conjunction with H202 (or the Root Excel thing either which is for treating root rot I'm told) so it's one or the other.
Thanks very much for the thanks..:D. I love helping folks who WANT to learn and who are willing to do the work. You are both. :)
On reflection I think you have too many roots but they are not healthy and so are dying off and/or rotting and affecting the strength of your stems. You have nice large plants but had several "root issues" along the way including your ph issues AND overnuting which burns the roots too. Taping your stems WILL help and using rhizoT and cannazym wiill help as well as long as you have good drainage through the red buckets. Otherwise the odds are much more against a finished harvest without problems.
WH check out the first page of the thread the first post was May 12th. Look @ the size of the roots in the PIC. That plant in the PIC is the largest healthiest plant I have now and it's only been less then 30 days since the PICS. Well I'm not doughting you. Just looking into things.
I'm cutting clones everyday and I will be getting ready to do a soil bed. I want to try a Tranoble. I will never do another DWC if I can not get these to stick with me. Either way I will be prepared for the worst. I'm just hacking up all my big Mom's so I think the beds are going to happen. I will give them 10 days in flower just to see what happens with these. Plant size I should see 4oz a plant? what's your opinion if they were to make it?
Thanks again for everything WH :thumbsup:
Sincerely, GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile:
If the DWC does not work:( I will go soil but then I will come back with the AERO to stick with the HYDRO CREW;)
Even when they flower they will need to be tied up or branches will snap. Someone mentioned to Put chicken wire to the ceiling. I really am not into that to many hours of tyeing. The bed will be built tomorrow
Hi all,
After reading this thread I think I will do an e&f for my 1st hydro. My question, If I lower the ph to somewhere in the 3's to prep the hydroton will it rise to the 5-6 level just from pumping it thru the e&f tub with 40lbs of hydroton in it? I am going to let the system rum for 24 hrs to prep the hydro.
Thanks for your help
GL420, sorry to see so many problems, this is scaring me away from w/f just when I was about to build one. I think I am getting information overload.
McD.....you can try it but the only real way that works is thoroughly preparing it by rinsing and continually resetting the ph before you start AND while you run the system. The big key with hydroton is watching the ph like a hawk......not real conducive for convenience if that's what you are looking for.
Thanks, I started with 5.3 ph 20 min ago. I have to go get some work done so I will let it run and check it again when I get back, then adjust. I already flushed it 3 times but did not adjust the ph. I am still getting brown dust into the res. I'll keep flushing till it clears up. I have time since this was to be for the flowering room and I was going to use a drip into rw for the veg.
What is your opinion on this? Looking for any feedback good or bad.
Better to avoid as many problems up front as possible.
IT MUST BE SOAKED 24 Hrs W/ PH WATER SETUP TO 4 W/ HALF GROW SOLUTION OR YOU WILL KEEP HAVING PROBLEMS> LISTEN TO WH
OK I will adjust now
I'm cloned out over 100 cut today....
Ratio with the EZ is just that EZ so far 100 percent.
Well Stinky I'm coming to the soil side!!!!!!
Dude I'm very bummed to hear this......:(
WH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND PATIENCE...
When are they going to make you a MOD?
I will be using a Hacksaw to cut the buckets open to put them outside. I have them on 12/12 now but I heard the STINK one time say leave them in dark for 5 days then bring them out and they will Flower? Could that be true? I may have missed quoted her..
WOW WH the trials and Tribulations continue. I cut the 100+ clones last night. After sexing 6 NYD SENSI STAR Plants. I Fucked up so so so bad. I was supposed to hold 2-5-6 which gave me a 50/50 Ratio great good old lucky GL. Well anyway I filled the EZ 120 with some Fiing MALES I held number 3 instead of 6. BIG BIG BIG Mistake. Well I RE-CUT 100 clones of CHURCH. I think you grew out that strain? How was the yield and quality. I have them from GHS Company they were FEMS. They did not have any troubles with the CHURCH herming out but I will hit them with reverse just encase.
I hope this is a new chapter opening. Going back to the basics SOG 100+ in a soil bed. I want to try the Tranoble grow....
Thank you again for all your help GL 420
HEY MODS WHEN ARE YOU MAKING WH A MOD? SHE IS MORE THEN A GREAT BEACON OF LIGHT:thumbsup:
BUMMER!
The one church plant we grew was GREAT! It was terrible in veg, then turned into a monster in bloom......something like 7 oz or something. Let me see if I can find a pic...
yes GL....come to the dirty side...:cool:
WT
funny thing WH...some stork dropped by with goodies!!! I feel better about having to start anew now:thumbsup::jointsmile:
wonder how to thank a bird...............
I'd have to check my records (Read: my old grow logs) to remember how long we flowered this plant for. VERY VERY strong smelling all the way through bloom but a very good yield for the wimp it started out to be.
Wow WH that's the best new I have received this whole week....
How is the taste on a 1-10 Is there a Strain to compare it to...
Sns I'm coming to the soil side but I have a little dilemma Which probably explains issues with FF Soils... Any help would be appreciated. I need to find this Sunshine #4 or something compatible..
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Originally Posted by Tranoble
Thanks for Everything GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranoble
I will not smoke till the work is done in the room everyday. So i have to get it done really early... LOL:jointsmile:
Very nice looking buds on that plant WH:thumbsup:
Yield is good smell is strong Taste?
Quality 1-10
THC Strong Mild Headie
7 weeks or 8
Yield WAS good
quality was pretty up there BUT made me sleepy. Worked GREAT for Mr Hound's insomnia so we found it to be a much more couchlock than up high.
Taste......Couldn't really say because we either cook or make capsules with most of our weed.
Gotta be 8 or nine weeks.....I'm POSITIVE it wasn't 7.
Thanks for the INFO WH and all the help..
So you never answerd me....
WHEN THEY MAKING YOU A MOD?
I too will be attempting a church sprout in episode 3...wish em lucks:thumbsup:
WT
Ohhhh Yeah we will have good comparisons and will be able to learn the strain from each other:thumbsup::thumbsup:.
Were your seeds from mine are GHS
What Medium are you using WH
Whiskey Tango
GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:
eh....Ill worry about medium if they pop...WH has me scared to wet em...lol:jointsmile:
WT
They will pop what do you have them in Peat Pellets?
Are they GHS or were did they come from FEMS or they need to be sexed?
I just hacked up 6 huge plants. It's a shame we are unable to share amongst friends....;)
STINK I know the rules but they do SUCK sometimes. Especially when it's all for a good cause;) LOL
Check out that SUNSHINE #4 it seems to be really good stuff.
I could put 500 clones on anyones table and they will just be waisted because the DWC is being terminated. They can't go outside because what WH had said is 100 percent true they were ROOT BOUND...
Good Luck
GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:
so as far as the half solution, which solution would you use? the veg, general purpose, phase to bloom, bloom? Im thinking of just using the general purpose mild thats on the GH bottles, but i just want to make sure before I do so and have to go back and fix it.
Read LateWoods GH 3 Part Thread It will sum it all up for you Eay way to go!!!
Good Luck GL1
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponi...iscussion.html
im sorry, i left out an important part of that last post. I meant what solution to use in pretreating the hydroton.
WOW
Hadn't ever seen the thread before man . :stoned:
16 w/f , you needed a warehouse -n- like 10,000w. of light . :D
No wonder your in soilbeds now . Think you'll ever tinker w/ the w/f's again man ?
Sorry I wasn't around to lend a hand . :(
Peace bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:
Hey X It was only me and Ms..WH For this Ride!!! They were all fucked up VEG to long... They were monsters in less then a month. I had to wack them all Off... Tauht me don't go so big your first time trying DWC. LOL It was a HARD learning experience... I still have the buckets Maybe Ill try again next time I wanna go NFT... WH was saying while we were doing this thread we need XC to help!!! LOL GL1Quote:
Originally Posted by xcrispi