Rusty's Bonsai Downsizing...

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Originally Posted by KillerBudG

Lmao Rusty, Just curious about something tho, Is it possible to root more than 1 clone in a cup? If you can how many would you limit it to?

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One pot, one plant. The roots tangle and compete.

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Originally Posted by KillerBudG

And if I was gonna take a Reveg plant from a 1gal. pot to a 5 gal. pot how long should i do it before flower? 2 weeks..?

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A lot depends on how she's handling the re-veg process, and how much new growth she's showing. (is she healthy, or is she struggling?)
A week or so should be fine. Might even want to put her in a 2 or 3 gallon pot first, then transplant into the 5er a couple of weeks into flower.

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Originally Posted by dexter68

If it aint broke dont fix it.Right?

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My sentiments exactly. :thumbsup: For a beginner, I'd recommend learning how to grow before learning to maximize your grow.

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Originally Posted by dexter68

When i can lay hands on camera ill let my girls shine.

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Will look for your growlog. Good luck with 'em. :jointsmile:

[quote=Rusty Trichome]One pot, one plant. The roots tangle and compete.

A lot depends on how she's handling the re-veg process, and how much new growth she's showing. (is she healthy, or is she struggling?)
A week or so should be fine. Might even want to put her in a 2 or 3 gallon pot first, then transplant into the 5er a couple of weeks into flower./QUOTE]

I know they tangle and compete. But im using pete to root in, and am low on pots/containers ATM. Was courious if I can pull off few clones in 1 pot each until I get more. But I know what you are saying and I should go the safe way.

She is taking to the reveg well, Loads of new growth, I think it actually slowed down an needs to see a repot. I only have a 2 gal. then a 5. so I should go to the 2 gal. then to the 5. Just thought that it might be better to skip the 2 ga. but ill repot up later today.

I will try to get a pic up to, I know I say it alot, so ill have to try and get 1 up so No one thinks I'm full of B/s..

Thanx Rusty, you been a lot of help since I started doing my own thing :weedpoke: :chainsaw: :baggy: :S5:

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Sounds like you're doing fine. :thumbsup:

Once they start showing new growth, full strength nutes and check roots a couple times a week for issues. (rootbound)

I like to repot in smaller steps mainly because the re-vegged adult pumps out roots so quick, you'll start seeing rootbound issues half way through flower.

Final trim to shape her a week or more prior to switching to flower. (allow recovery time)

My bad...I should have added "strangle" to the "tangle and compete" statement.

Hey Rusty, The reveg/bush is doing great wish I could take some pictures. I was reading threw this thread and came across a post, that say not to leave a lot of shoots on your plant or the yield wont be much.

Now with proper shoot spacing would it really matter how many shoots you have.

I am waiting until they root-bound up in the 2 gal. to switch it to the 5gal then flip it to flower. I am unsure if I can leave all the shoots and just space them out to get decent light like a scrog bush without the screen tho. I will be flowering under a 600w.:jointsmile:


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If you are re-vegging and returning to flower asap, I wouldn't transplant into final container till the last minute, as a large re-veg will pump-out the roots, and you can run-out of rootspace late in flower. (did you trim the roots when returning to veg?)

If you are keeping her for clones, keep in mind, if they get too rootbound you can trim healthy roots and return to the veg closet for healing . As long as she has a couple of recovery weeks before returning her to flower. Never trim roots when in flower.

Airflow is a concern, as is leaf-irritation. Not real big problems, but cannabis needs the airflow, and the tighter-packed the shoots, the more the leaves and branches will irritate (do minor damage to) each other. Usually when I take clones from a re-veg, I'll shape her for optimal branch spacing.

Which is "better"...6 growing tips at 4" each, or one cola at 8"? I'm guessing once you get to knbow your strain, you would be the one to answer that. On re-veggers I leave 4-8 growing tips, depending on strain and physical attributes of the plant. (I play it by ear)

I used these 'nudgers' for a while to help shape the canopy:
push-me-pull-you's

Here's a Lemon Skunk re-veg. Just switched to 12/12, (first week) and she's about 28 inches tall right now. Will likely put her in a 15 gallon pot sometime this week.
The plant in the plexiglass is a Swazi male. (collecting pollen)
A PokerFace x Inca Spirit x Diesel cross re-veg in background. (can't really see it though)
Juvenile Swazi Skunk and some juvenile Northern Lights (the original N.L. strain) being sexed in background.

Looking real nice rusty :thumbsup:

I would like to try out a bonsai with one of my ladies but Im guessing they have to be a strong enough strain to handle the stress it will go through.

Will have to look up your threads on this, thanks for sharing :jointsmile:

Thanks. I appreciate the compliment. :thumbsup:

Best to grow a healthy strain to begin with. Most would be amazed at how easy this is, but many who try it for the first time get frustrated when the sub par bagseed they try with doesn't work-out. In my book, it's worth a try with any strain but autoflowers. I've never even grown a full autoflower, so am not sure how that would work. :jointsmile:

Sounds good would like to keep this bagseed going it has been the most vigorously growing lady I have. But time will tell...

"must spread rep before giving it to blah blah" I tried

Well Rusty iv read this thread 3 or 4 times and think iv done everything correct. My problem was i had no leaves to work with, so i left a few small buds near the bottom. Plus my lights fell sometime over night and burned them some. Now one plant is really important, because its NL#5 and was great smoke, with a perfect pain killer. It is the one in the yellow butter container.

But i took them out of their pots and cut each side and a bit off the bottoms, then filled in the bottom and sides with fresh soil. I am planning on putting them outside in the ground, so the more branch growth the better. So i thought id post a pic so you can advise please. I have pruned a lot, but should i take the branches that look like there is no way i will get growth, or just let nature take its course. I was thinking it would only stress it more. Its been 3 weeks an 1 day from the re pot in this pic. Also, this pic was taken with a good camera, so you can zoom pretty well to get a look at it, but the yellow pot is most important. I hope to get a clone or two also for the outdoor this year. I also have a few seeds getting ready as you can see. They were a gift an all feminized, so i cant wait because they are a mixed batch of white widow, wrecked homicide to diesel and some combination there of. Just not sure whats what, but thats all good cuz im thinking there is a few people that could identify them as a adult.


Anything you could advise would be great Rusty. Oh and i started FF grow 2 weeks after the re pot. Thanks for any advise my man Rusty:thumbsup:

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Oh Rusty i was wondering where i might find that lemon skunk? I would bet its great man. Or, is this something you created? Sorry, i meant to ask above but im doing 10 things at once here:hippy:

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mmmm lemon skunk that sounds fire :jointsmile::thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Well Rusty iv read this thread 3 or 4 times and think iv done everything correct. My problem was i had no leaves to work with, so i left a few small buds near the bottom. Plus my lights fell sometime over night and burned them some.

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<doh> Likely best not to make dropping the lights a habit.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

But i took them out of their pots and cut each side and a bit off the bottoms, then filled in the bottom and sides with fresh soil. I am planning on putting them outside in the ground, so the more branch growth the better. So i thought id post a pic so you can advise please.

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Looking good so far. If putting outdoors later, would get them into as large of containers as you can before setting them out. (going in the ground, not in pots, right?)

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

I have pruned a lot, but should i take the branches that look like there is no way i will get growth, or just let nature take its course. I was thinking it would only stress it more. Its been 3 weeks an 1 day from the re pot in this pic. Also, this pic was taken with a good camera, so you can zoom pretty well to get a look at it, but the yellow pot is most important.

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Wouldn't keep trimming, (more stress) but use each plant as a learning experience for next time. I don't leave that much stem, but I can think of no good reasons other than I have a height restriction oin my growth closet. Otherwise two weeks into re-veg, I'm getting too tall.
As long as there's some green from foliage, there should be no problem. I orefer stripping the buddage off and keeping the lower leaves, but on sativa's sometimes there's nothing usable there. Buds work though, just a slower process.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Just not sure whats what, but thats all good cuz im thinking there is a few people that could identify them as a adult.

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Usually not, but if compared side-by-side someone could likely give an opinion...

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Anything you could advise would be great Rusty. Oh and i started FF grow 2 weeks after the re pot. Thanks for any advise my man Rusty:thumbsup:
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Keep on keeping on. :thumbsup: Keeping a fan or at least getting the air to circulate? Seedlings look a tad warm and overwatered, but that might be the soil. Other than that...doing fine so far. You could gently dig-out that second seedling with a spoon, and give it it's own cup though. Looks like you culd use some perlite in the soil, too.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Oh Rusty i was wondering where i might find that lemon skunk? I would bet its great man. Or, is this something you created? Sorry, i meant to ask above but im doing 10 things at once here :hippy:

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A friend got the beans from a local grower. I believe it's a pre-Trainwreck strain of the same basic lineage as TW, but really impossible to tell any more. :thumbsup:

[quote=Rusty Trichome]<doh> Likely best not to make dropping the lights a habit.

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Yeah i know, it was the first time i didnt take a peek since they fell when i was just getting started. And they had to fall, man!

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[QUOTE]
Looking good so far. If putting outdoors later, would get them into as large of containers as you can before setting them out. (going in the ground, not in pots, right?)[QUOTE/]

Yes in the ground. Its been 22 days from taking the plants out of their pots and cutting sides and bottom, then replaced with fresh soil. I thought i would re pot again at the end of the month and start getting them used to the sun for 2 weeks, then plant as deep as i can, in hope that some growth will grow roots for me.


[QUOTE]Wouldn't keep trimming, (more stress) but use each plant as a learning experience for next time. I don't leave that much stem, but I can think of no good reasons other than I have a height restriction oin my growth closet. Otherwise two weeks into re-veg, I'm getting too tall.
As long as there's some green from foliage, there should be no problem. I orefer stripping the buddage off and keeping the lower leaves, but on sativa's sometimes there's nothing usable there. Buds work though, just a slower process.

Usually not, but if compared side-by-side someone could likely give an opinion...[QUOTE]

Well thats what i thought you would say. Plus i have a ton of room indoors and when the go out, well the more growth the better i thought. I was gifted these from a guy that works well with cardboard, i think ya might know him. Im thinking he might be able to help identify them, plus some of them are the WH that others are growing here. Thats why i thought its possible, im not one to say ''anyone know this stain'', as its narrowed a bit.

[QUOTE]Keep on keeping on. :thumbsup: Keeping a fan or at least getting the air to circulate? Seedlings look a tad warm and overwatered, but that might be the soil. Other than that...doing fine so far. You could gently dig-out that second seedling with a spoon, and give it it's own cup though. Looks like you culd use some perlite in the soil, too.[QUOTE]

Well i had my seeds in a box and i think it got a bit hot, so i had moved them 3 days ago where my lights are all set up. And they were watered right before the pic was taken, but they are doing much better now. But yes i do need a fan on them cuz im using it to keep this plant in this box cooled down.
And yeah that seed rolled in the peat cup so il dig er out soon:hippy:

[QUOTE]A friend got the beans from a local grower. I believe it's a pre-Trainwreck strain of the same basic lineage as TW, but really impossible to tell any more. :thumbsup:[QUOTE]

Wow it might be nice if i can figure out the TW an cross it with my Skunk#1.

My thread will be up soon Rusty, so dont be a stranger man. Thanks for the advise, big time:thumbsup: Your always here for help and its much appreciated and i really want you to know that:hippy:

Keeper Green man :weedpoke:

One day il learn to multi post:wtf: Not sure where i went wrong:wtf:
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You just use <quote> </quote> tags around what you want to quote, but using square brackets of course. Good luck, I'm going to try my first reveg here in a week or so.

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

My thread will be up soon Rusty, so dont be a stranger man. Thanks for the advise, big time:thumbsup: Your always here for help and its much appreciated and i really want you to know that:hippy:[/B]

Keeper Green man :weedpoke:

One day il learn to multi post:wtf: Not sure where i went wrong:wtf:
:rasta:

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Provide a link, I'll say "hi". :thumbsup:

Gotta keep your open quote tags and close quote tags surrounding the text you want quoted. If you want the author of the text mentioned specifically, you'll use the same 'refrenced - open quote' tag for the beginning of each quote-box. (if more than one) Which will look something like : [quote=LetsSeeYa]
You get that tag by starting from the thread you want to quote, and hit "quote" instead of reply. In the Respond to Thread page, you'll see the quote tags (beginning the quoted text) and close quote tags. Copy-n-paste those where needed, delete stuff that's not relevant, and check results using preview post.

So what you'd see on the form is [quote=LetsSeeYa] blah, blah, blah...and the standard close-quote tag, with your text added after that.

Did that help...? The more I read it the more I'm unsure of it's clarity, lol.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Provide a link, I'll say "hi". :thumbsup:

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Thanks Rusty:hippy:

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Originally Posted by Gotta keep your open quote tags and close quote tags surrounding the text you want quoted. If you want the author of the text mentioned specifically, you'll use the same 'refrenced - open quote' tag for the beginning of each quote-box. (if more than one) Which will look something like : [QUOTE=LetsSeeYa

You get that tag by starting from the thread you want to quote, and hit "quote" instead of reply. In the Respond to Thread page, you'll see the quote tags (beginning the quoted text) and close quote tags. Copy-n-paste those where needed, delete stuff that's not relevant, and check results using preview post..

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Ok il try it.

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Originally Posted by So what you'd see on the form is [QUOTE=LetsSeeYa

blah, blah, blah...and the standard close-quote tag, with your text added after that

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Here we go...............

[QUOTE=Did that help...? The more I read it the more I'm unsure of it's clarity, lol[/QUOTE]

Man a person can learn a lot in here:thumbsup:Well i understand now, but this last quote i did the same as the others and its not working. Maybe someone can see how i messed it up in the end, so i can practice someplace other then Rusty's awesome thread. I know its not a computer thread, but thanks for all the help Rusty, the new thread will be in my sig soon:rasta:

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Originally Posted by LetsSeeYa

Thanks Rusty:hippy:

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[QUOTE] Gotta keep your open quote tags and close quote tags surrounding the text you want quoted. If you want the author of the text mentioned specifically, you'll use the same 'refrenced - open quote' tag for the beginning of each quote-box. (if more than one) Which will look something like :

Ok il try it.

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So what you'd see on the form is

Here we go...............



Man a person can learn a lot in here:thumbsup:Well i understand now, but this last quote i did the same as the others and its not working. Maybe someone can see how i messed it up in the end, so i can practice someplace other then Rusty's awesome thread. I know its not a computer thread, but thanks for all the help Rusty, the new thread will be in my sig soon:rasta:

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You were missing some brackets. ( ] ) If just grabbing the quote, no need for the other bullshit, just hand-do the [Quote] tag and the close quote tag, then copy-n-paste as needed. All the other stuff in the personalized quote is to identify the original poster and the thread it came from. :jointsmile:

This thread has likely run it's course...but I appreciate ya noticing the infraction, lol.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

If this is a repeatable process, and can be used with other strains, it can save about 3 to 4 weeks of veg time. (or add 3 to 4 weeks to maturity before flowering)

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when you say you can save 3 to 4 weeks of veg time, it made me wonder about your veg regimen/lighting. i rarely veg over a month. once they reach or are close to 12" i throw the into flower. so far a very interesting post, kudos.

hi mr rusty how u doin.. Ur plants luk realy nice. U realy r a pro.. I woz wonderin if u cn look at my thread in the lighting section and give any advice on the ladys? Bout pruning.. Increase in yield and dat.. thank u very much mate.. X

hi mate sorry i didnt reply earlier.. yeh i got a hygrometre and everytym i water em it gets alot more humidity in there... got the extractor fan working over tym.. yeh i dnt seem to having a problem with the potting mix being more acidic..its still akalie on the ph metre..and i dipped the ph meter in vinegar and it went over to the acid side.. so i dnno? i wud transplant but its gunna be four weeks flower this sat... and i shot my self in the foot... i made the door on the box to little to fit a good size pot in there..

the water ph seeem to be about 6.5 wen i stuck the meter in there.. but like u sed before i shud get a better ph meter.... hows ur grow going?

and thanks agen mate for replying i get sum more piks for you cheers xxx

hi boss i gt sum piks and questioans wher shud i ask em.. ?

I'd prefer you ask in your thread...:thumbsup:

Hi there if you dont mind me asking how did the Swazi turn out.I am from South Africa and was really surprizesd to see one of our local strains spoken about, the only other one is northern lights, but personally i think a good swazi is underrated, not as potent as other strains but just ask good! Thanks for all your post they have really helped me.
Sincerely
Richard

Howdy. Welcome to CanCom.

I love the Swazi. A nice peppery smell and aftertaste, with rock-hard buds. A solid "where the hell are my keys...?" effect. Only problem is that they get a tad leggy with branches that need to be supported, and take a while to finish. Not one to grow with a shorter indica unless you have some milk crates to even-out the canopy.

Glad to be of service. :thumbsup:

give it more nitrogen. spray it with water with regular water mistings everyday. get those lights closer to the plant / after two weeks watch what happens. most sinc,jay a.k.a. danocean111213 YouTube - danocean111213's Channel if you have any questions regrading BONSAI CANNABIS

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Originally Posted by danocean111213

...if you have any questions regrading BONSAI CANNABIS

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No offense was intended, I'm sure...But I don't do U-Tube, and if you'd like to start your own thread for re-vegging using bonsai trimming and training techniques, then go for it. But I sincerely doubt I'll be needing advise for something I've been doing for quite a few years. :wtf:

use spinout or airpots for your moms. dont use grow bags, every time you move the plant, it damages the root system.