My first grow

started clones.
5 of my favorite, the smoke I have had, very nice, better be a lady!
5 of the so-called "J-5" supposed to be great shit.. all girls
2 each of my other 2, mystery seeds
7 of one of the older clones, givaways or just in case
21 clones, in a humidity thing under flourescents.
Got rid of 4 plants after taking the 7 clones, they were out of sync with the others and now I have the right amount of room, I think, 4 plants, of course only 1 is definate female, so I could be fucked. no seeds sprouted yet, kinda worried been 1 day.
I will not have room for all these plants, but with a surplus I can be picky and also generous to other folks needin a start.

Damn, sounds like you have a pretty nice setup going on! I'm enjoying the updates. Just need more pictures!!! :thumbsup:

Deaner,

So your only going to have 4 plants to flower this time around 3 unknown sex?

From everything I read you are ready to go. Not sure about the mh for 2 weeks, I went directly to hps at the on set of 12/12, the benefits are more lumins from the hps plus the color spectrum helps induce flower. The plant thinks fall is here because when the sun gets closer to the horizon the light has to pass thru more atmosphere becoming more red.

Start flowering nutes at next watering infact probably wouldn't hert to give them a good flush with a ph balanced water and 1/2 strength dose of every watering flower nutes. Now that you are going to flowering you don't need the high nitrogen anymore you want flowers not leaves.

Get a loupe so you can know the sex asap. I have one and was able to sex in 4 days. Stop LST and just let them streach for a week, they will grow 6" or more in a week. Because you will have a lot of space this flower after a week start to LST again but not near as sevier. Tie the main coals at a 45 deg. angle letting light penatrait all the way down the stem, this will cause the flowers to grow evenly the entire length of the colas.

Now also set your timer to be on when you are home the most this decreases the likely hood of you wanting to check the plants during lights out. I have mine set to go out just after I leave to go to work so I can check them just before I leave then come on 12 hours later usually 1 hour after I get home.

Wow, the plants look real good this morning!
Quick, do I untie them now? they are still tied down.
I suppose morning is the best time to water?
Yes, only 4 first time around, but ones def. female, one I have a strong hunch is (don't know why really), and the other 2 are 50/50 chance. Having trouble getting pics from camera to computer right now, but will keep trying.

The girls are loose! Theres a little pile of twisties. Whats a loupe? I can't get the computer to recognize my cameras card so can't put up pics. They look so good, I can't believe how big they have gotten, they are only a little over a month old! Will mix up my flowering nutes, give em a little h2o, and let them be, I must now, for lack of anything better to do, go and get the fuck stoned.

Sounds good.

Leting them go is fine, in a coulple days look at the fan leaves in th middle, make sure they are not blocking light to the smaller shoots trying to grow, if so remove it you want as many bud tops exposed to direct light as possible.

BTY one of my plants rippened and harvested her last night another is ready placed her in the dark till Sunday, looks like I am going to get 1 1/2 to 2 oz out of her, that is a conservative est.

a loupe is what they eyeball diamonds with and little shit like that.

Irie,

Shovelhandle

I cant wait to see some grown up pics of ur plants

Here they are first light of the morning after they first saw darkness, after this they were fed the bloom nute 1/2 strength.
There are 4, one is split so it looks kinda like 5 from the top. Please feel free to tell me how good or bad you think they look.

They look pretty good to me. Keep doing what your doing. Now hopefully soon buds will start.

Very good work Deaner!!

Now comes the fun part of growing !!!

Forgot something, you can get a 8x loupe at a camera store or internet.
got mine at a camera store for $8.00

Jerry, what is a 8x loupe??

A loupe is a single lense magnifing glass that is placed up close to your eye to see very small details and objects used by jewelers and photographers. I use one for several things in growing, 2 most important are early sexing and to see if the trics at harvest are amber, clear, or cloudy, by doing this you can harvest your plant at peak potancy.

8x means magnification of 8 times.

Here is a pic of my loupe.

Sweet, I might have one of those with some old tattooing equipment.
I'm switching to the HPS bulb tonight. Looks really cool, I really wanna hang in there now. I'm happy.

Jerry were can i find one of these mistical looking loupes??

I found mine a camera store, ( Where I live the 2 camera dealers are Ritz Camera, and Penn Camera.)

I am with questions, hoping to get some help.
I started another lil rubbermaid clone box, also throwing in someseedlings, but they are going to another tub for veggin, no more room in original veg tub. Sounds ok? By the time my big ones are gone, these will be 2 small groups right behind, yay! Is this smart to do?
Big question: any other nutes besides the pureblend bloom? I have Sweet also but havent added any for per old: one thing at a time stress thing. Should I add it? The HPS looks awesome! Can they, you know, track down who I am and find out who I am and come a lookin? How long to look for the sex? What do I look for first? How much pruning at this point? Ok, thats plenty for now, thanks in advance!

Almost lights out, most my seeds are in the soil. mostly cheese leftto sprout, 2 plants out of the humidity tub and into open air under flourescents. Clones look like shit, no sign of roots, and they look sad, limp. Glad I started seeds.

Deaner don't worry nobody is going to come looking for ya. Your not even growing enough to get them interested. They have better things to do, they would have to get a search warrant and all that. Your not selling the stuff so don't worry.
Just enjoy the life of the plant keep things to your self and you'll be alright. This site looks like it's been here awhile so don't worry.

So did you just plant the cheese or did you germinate it first? About a week ago I planted some grandaddy purple seeds just putting them in soil and finnaly now One has popped up. Sometimes it just takes a long time.

My mini veg box has had some changes, the tray the clones were in was taking all the space, so I put the lil things in tupperware, a few were obviously struggling and had to go.
Flowering plants look great again, gets up to 85 before I get home, hoping to solve this before tommorow, 2 days hitting 85 is scaring me. Timer goes off, lights out, but windows open and temp drops, then in the a.m., no ventilation cuz I sealed it up at night. Gotta fix this problem asap! I'm not home when they come on, so I didn't think that through..
The cheese were germinated. The clones are kinda hidden from view in the tub photo. I can't believe how fast this stuff happens. Few days after opening the bag of seeds, there are little sprouts reaching for the sunshine!

Your going to notice when the Cheese gets more mature it's going to smell kinda funky but it's smell is Cheese. Kinda crazy. With that new lighting system you have now is really going to help the growth that's why your so surprised. You have a good grow going and your doing well. And you seem to have a nice grow room with plenty space to add more.

Yes, more is coming..

Sorry Deaner I have been busy with my grows recently and have not really had a chance to check in.

Deaner everthing in your first crop looks real good. I just want to go over a coulple of things in your second grow. First I see 12 Dixi cups, 3 with what I assume are clones, If so you are not cloaning properly. ( I will go over how to get good cloans later when I have time). How many week veg are you going to do on these seeds? How many seeds you got going? I would say you can fit 9 monster females in there so plan on what 3 cloans weed out the worst performer this crop for the next. I would start 12 seeds to get around 6 females (plan on 8 to 4 of them to be male in my first grow I started 15 and ended up with 9 females, remember though this could go the other way to)

As for 85 deg in your cabinet it is not ideal but tollerable for them but if it is getting that warm in there you do have a ventilation issue, you are going to have problems in the future with humidity. I had a scare in my grow where I started to get a musty smell from my grow box and had to spray for mold, It is gone now but scared the crap out of me.

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i had trouble keeping my temps down but it never seemed to harm my plants,i've since found this in the cannabis faqs which i've found very helpful,seems i was taking radiant temps,but since following the simple advice here i can maintain temps in the 70s easily

Ventilation going in soon. My cloning technique is not very good, but I think if I would have lft them alone, there would be more, but I've already had to be selective, and weed out a few, I have more than enough babies for now.. I plan on expanding to the whole closet, adding another 600 wt, so I can have up to 18. I wanna get a blower/ducting for the light, going up and out, and maybe another just for the growroom.

Deaner the clone needs to have a fairly good size stock for it to do well. And they need normal indoor day light to make it. So hardly any light at all. I really couldnt tell by the picture how strong the light is but Im sure you have something Dim. And are you using rockwool for the clones? And any root growth formula? Im sure they will turn around and Lift up in time.

Can someone tell me where I am supposed to be looking when checkin sex?
I'm looking for little balls, right?

Also what are trichomes? Are they the crystals that form on the leaves and bud?

Can I use one magnification thing for both? I really don't wanna buy a microscope, a loupe is ok.

One of my plants is growing little bud looking leaves, thick fat and from the lower regions of the stem. They are kinda crystally, it's the only one with them, but it's a differernt strain, a clone that is supposedly female. I have only been looking with the naked eye cuz I'm not sure where to look anyway. And how soon should I really be paying close attention, theyhave only been in flower for like 4 days.

I used olivias cloning gel, I still have like 10 of them left, just made them take up less room, extras will be givin away to another friend that grows. They are under 24 hour flourescents with alot of distance from the light, I am gonna build a nice veg box where the tubs sitting, gonna be nice, look like a cabinet sitting on a dresser, gonna be fun project. Need funding, too bad theres no grants for this stuff.. Exhaust first then cabinet. Adios.

Some one needs to show you what a male looks like in a early stage of growing balls haha. Funny how well we know a female.

hahaha on the grants we wish the Goverment would just grow us 20ft trees. Like a Billion lol.

Deaner,

What you are looking at it the section where leaf meets stem about 2 to 4 nodes down from the top of a branch. Look for a tiny ball growing there. If there is only one ball on both sides of the node and a little white hair coming out of it it is a female, if there are more than one ball or it has balls on both sides of the node then it is male.

Your plants are going into the strech phase and won't begin to go into full flower for 2 weeks. I seclude the males as soon as I identified them let them grow a few more days to make 100% sure. I would have tossed a female once if I didn't do that.

the 1st pic is a female pre flower and the 2nd pic a male pre flower,look on the main stem,just where the branches shoot out,that's the best place to find them,the last pic is trichromes,you likely wont see many until after 2-3 weeks flowering

I've seen a few white hairs, looks like on all except the one that is supposed to be a cloned female. THank you very much, and the trichomes are those white crystals, or the hairs? I'm goin searching for balls now..

the trichromes are the crystals

The white specs on the leaves are trichroms. You won't really see them until after 4 weeks of flower. They will have this tiny stem with this glob on top, you can only see them with magnification, hence the loupe. The trichromes containe the THC.

I am planning on a veg box, kinda stealthy, heres the spaceI have:
(I will go another route if it's no good.)
48" high, 34" wide, 21" deep.
This size is perfect, but I could go a little bigger if I have to.

I wanna be able to veg enough plants to keep 1 600wt. busy for now, and double that eventually. So I'm thinking 10-15 plants in the veg box. I want to be pulling a plant out of flower and slappin another one in, a constant flower room, constant veg. Hows my size look, for my goals? Oh, it's gonna be lit with 4x 2' flourescents on top.

Deaner my veg box is 36''x36''x36'' with a 400w mh I can fit 12-2 gallon buckets in, florals will work, maybe in your favor you can control growth better, so timing will be easier. They grow fast as hell under the MH.

Update on the flowering girls: I am still only giving them botanicare pure blend pro bloom, 2/3 strength last watering, going 3/4 next, then full strength, but I'm thinking of adding sweet for the metals, magnesium deficiency makes the leaves rigid and grow where the edges and tip start going up a little? Anything else to add to up my yield/quality and not take chances of screwing something up? I've heard molassis, but tend to stick to what works and hesitate at this point to mess with anything when I got 4 at the most females. My speed queen and bubblegum are looking very healthy, the cheese is slow, only 2 (or 3 some got a lil mixed up) have sprouted. 2 clones, that I had in clone tub for only a couple days, dropped the lil starter cube in the dirt, they look real good so far, they are my best freinds starter plants, hope he gets into this, then pretty much all my closest freinds will be growers, yahoo! Lots of good bud around and its been so hard to find anything decent except one sack of pungent grapefruity, lemony, pine solly stuff (any ideas of what strain tastes/smells like that?)that wrecked me I got from a freind, hoping to get clones from the grower but he is one of those smart/paranoid types that must remain in the shadows.. 3 big tokes and even a heavy smoker like me is toast. Most the stuff around here, you could smoke 2-3 bowls and still be only a lil stoned. I am taking it very easy now so my huge tolerance will deminish a little before my stuff is ready. I love this new hobby so much, I smoke mostly for depression, it works wonders, and just growing it helps alot.