I think a lot of it has to do with what part of the world you live in, and a whole bunch on humidity. I've found that pests around here don't like a grow with under 30 humidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
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I think a lot of it has to do with what part of the world you live in, and a whole bunch on humidity. I've found that pests around here don't like a grow with under 30 humidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
So when the hubby and I were dating he came over for the first time and commented on how clean my place was. I told him yep, I had cleaned it for company. He looked SHOCKED and then said (and I'll never forget this) "Well when you come over to my place I'm not cleaning. I mean, I like you and everything but I'm NOT cleaning the house."
now Thats a M-A-N:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
What about when you go over to his place, and it's your place as well. Does he clean the house then?
Well......my half's fairly clean.....:D
Nice work MVP!
Hopefully, I'll get a chance to put some of this into action this year, soon as it stops raining and snowing here anyhow lol.
flame waves to opie and weedhound 'hope you guys are well too!'
Well it has been a little while since I built anything DIY, and I couldn't fight the bug, so I just built this contraption. I'm gonna post pics and not write up too much, but I will say this: THIS LITTLE DAMN THING IS THE EASIEST CLONING THINGEE I HAVE EVER USED. Virtually foolproof... well at least for the average fool.
The cloner started out as a Sterlite 16 qt clear container with a blue lid. I then covered it with aluminum tape to make it lightproof. Next I drilled 12 holes in the lid and cut some 1/2 in ID clear vinyl tubing into 2.5 in lengths, then I used a hot glue gun to attach the tubing to the lid. I used some weatherstripping to hold the clones in place. Uh wait a second, I am getting ahead of myself. On to some pictures...
So where was I? :wtf: Oh yeah... more pics so you can see what I have done to put this thing together. I used 2 of the 10 in airstones and some vinyl tubing attached to an air pump to drive the bubbler. I drilled holes at the top of the container so that I don't have to worry about leaks. Also I cut the tubing at an angle (pic 2) to make it easier to feed thru the hole. Once inside I cut it squared off (pic 1) before attaching to the air stones.
Once I got the lines cut and air stones hooked up I proceeded to load it up with some fresh cuts. I took these off the Bonsai Mums and now I have 6 Master Kush, 4 Black Domina, and 2 Blueberry cuts starting to root. The amazing thing is that I threw this cloner together Saturday afternoon, took cuts Sat. night, and by Monday morning they had started rooting already. Oh BTW, the dome is another Sterlite container turned upside down. Fits perfect.
Here, look for yourself. I'll update with pics in a week when the roots are easier to see. Enjoy... :stoned:
MVP, I like the new cloner, I think I might build something similar, I'm getting really bored of rapid rooters and they seem to cause the stems to rot more often than not. I haven't ever used or seen an aerocloner being used, so I have a few questions. Do you use just water inside of it, and mix in some rooting hormone? Do you still dip your cuttings in a cloning solution? what is the distance between the surface of the liquid in the cloner, and the bottom of the cuttings? Thanks man :thumbsup:
I used 3/4 teaspoon of Rootech to every gallon of water. In my case I added 1.5 gal of RO water to the bubbler, mixed the 1.5 teaspoons of Rootech in the remaining .5 gal of water, then combined them all together in the res.Quote:
Originally Posted by scagster
Yes, I dip them lightly in the rooting hormone after scarifying (scraping) the stem to expose soft flesh for rooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by scagster
The distance is about 1.5 - 2 inches, probably closer to 1.5 in...Quote:
Originally Posted by scagster
I plan to run the bubbler for the first 4-5 days with the rooting hormone in the water before switching to plain RO with maybe a touch of nutes. I also take the humidity dome off for several hours a day to keep them from wilting too much.
I added an aquarium heater (8 bucks @ Wally World) to bring my res temps up to approx 80 F from 63 F which was too low for my liking...
Say it with me class, Cheapo Aero Cloner.
There is nothing better for fantastic results, combined with ease of use, combined with ease of construction, combined with low price.
Nice job MVP. Good craftsmanship as usual.
Hope you don't mind:
(I couldn't find my good photos. To stoned I guess.)
Hey Opie, great photos.. no really I mean it. It looks like you used the hell out of that thing! :thumbsup:
What do ya bet we could get Mr Hound to build one for Mrs Hound, and that she could tackle her clone-a-phobia? I mean there are no root cubes or peat pots or rockwool. Just water, bubbles, and nutes. Cloning the Hydro Way :D
I wonder if I should take odds on this, or just leave well enough alone..... :smokin:
I'm afraid neither one has the skill to build something that nice.....trust me things like that are better left bought.
That IS very beautifully built MVP...you definitely have a good eye and hands to be able to do it that well. :thumbsup:
I'm sold. I'll put one together this weekend. I've had it with RR's. On a drip system they stay constantly soggy and I've been having stem rot problems. Thank god I saw this, I was just about to cut a new batch of clones and use the last of my rooters up. :thumbsup: Here's roots in less than a week!
ok, so, whatta ya say, let me build one for u as a "Thank You"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
i been going crazy trying to think of some way to Thank You.
lemme kno :D
okay, replied to ur email and my insane OCD has kicked into overdrive:thumbsup:
ur gonna luv this,,,,,,to be continued:D
Sterlite 16 qt container x2 = 6.00
Foil Tape, small roll = 5.00
3 ft 1/2 ID vinyl tubing = 1.50
Hot Glue Gun = 8.00 (@ Harbor Freight)
Weatherstripping = 5.00 (?)
air pump from wally world = 6.00
airstones from wally world = 6.00
air line from wally world = 2.00
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approx cost from scratch = 39.50
Most hydro folks will already have spare parts and tools already, so here is what it cost me to build.
My Actual Costs:
Sterlite 16 qt container x2 = 6.00
3 ft 1/2 ID vinyl tubing = 1.50
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cash spent on my build = 7.50
upgrades (added aquarium heater) = 7.50
MVP :jointsmile:
jealous, jealous. :thumbsup: I'd really LOVE to have that kind of talent. The best I can do MAYBE hook up a tv to the satellite and dvd box or something......and even that would take me some good insructions and an hour or so.
Mr Hound is even worse.....directions, schmirections. :D
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
Skill? What skill? If you can operate a hand-held drill then you can build one of these. The most difficult part is drilling holes in plastic, which I wouldn't exactly classify as "hard". Come on, you gotta have at least as much faith in yourself as your fellow stoners have in you.
Bought? What bought? You want to buy one for $200 plus, when you can build a nice, 24 site model for under $35? Smaller ones for under $20, or one with room for 2 or 3 cuttings for something like 10 or $12. Okaaaay. (Starting low on the O, high on k, then back to low for the rest.) Must be nice. Maybe someday I won't have to worry about money. And yes, for a slight additional fee, there are aftermarket parts for all the above models, which will aid in the production of improved performance. Just see any one of our customer representatives on duty.
"The cheapo-Aero cloner is a very simple device to build.
It will perform just as well as expensive aero cloners costing hundreds of dollars."
http://www.cannabis.com/growing/advanced_hydroponics-building-a-cheapo-aero-cloning-tub.html
Follow that link for another nice tutorial with nice shiny pictures showing how to make one for $46, including $15 worth of unnecessary stuff. And I highly recommend using those exact Bubble Curtains instead of air stones for several reasons that I won't get into just now. (Way past time for me to feed my family. Neglectful? I'm a good parent, damn it. sniff)
Lil trivia: the idea has been in this particular galaxy for hundreds of years in some form or another. It seems that 10k, on overgrow.com (God rest it's soul. We will definitely miss it. No offense CanCom, we love you.) seemed to draw a lot of attention to it and really helped get the idea popularized. There was another guy a few years before him too (name?), but seems like he never really got the credit he deserved.
Oh and I just skimmed back and saw Rocks offer to build you one. That's great man, if you don't mind the home made aspect. I would hate to see you shell out x amount when you can have one that's maybe not quite as sparkly, but does the job just as well or better, for a much lower x amount. In fact, I tell you what; If somehow that falls through or whatever, I would be happy to make you a custom one too. Think of it. A new cloner made exactly to your specifications. You want 13 or 29 sites, you got it. You want it taller than wide, you got it. Just pay supplies and shipping and supplies for shipping, if any. I got boxes for free.
I just bought some of those actual professional neoprene inserts with a slit in em, to redo the lid of mine. I anticipate it will make things much more handy and tidy. Would you like that option in yours as well? Could I interest you in some undercoating, or satellite internet and TV with DVD and Playstation3?
Congratulations at seeing the light!Quote:
Originally Posted by scagster
Heh, heh, heh, another sucker. Boy won't he be surprised.
:clap::S2::clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound
There's a new one to add to the spell check dictionary.
I see that small print you rascal!
This is also funny, I'm going to aero-cloning versus normal cloning; but on the other hand, I'm switching my flowering to soil from hydro due to general inconvenience.
hey opie, im doin WH's custom box (sites and size already told me) for zero, zilch, zip, nada, gratis, freebieeeeeeeeeee. and shipping included too:thumbsup:
i owe her a favor, have many skills, and finally have a chance to do something nice for her, as a thank you.
disclaimer-i know she's married
Hey MVP....any chance I could see the inside of your cloner? How many inches or gallons of water do you put into and whats the size of your airpump? Are you running both stones off one airpump? And what kind of a solution are you running in there?
And lastly.....whats are the little white things that the clones are sitting in inside the tubing? And how long is each little section of 1/2 tubing that you stick the clones in?
That's cool. It's awesome that we can all help each other out. Coming together in a spirit of harmony. Sharing, giving, teaching and learning. One community in a spirit of thanksgiving, caring, overall unselfishness, and girly, sappy touchy-feely stuff. I am not a commie! Just a little curious what she did for your that's giving you this wet dream. Oh well, none of my bees wax I spose.
Glad you got the skills. I hope you share the experience with us.
I'm just glad she's giving it a go at least somehow. I would hate to see someone spend $53 an hour extra if it wasn't necessary. ($160 wasted minimum, divided by 3 hours work maximum, including but not limited to driving to Walmart, construction, packaging, driving to post office.) What about postage? OK, don't get ticky-tac on me.
I was actually all set to try it this summer......along with promising a better future for all soil seedlings everywhere......since I was going to grow my unsexed stuff in dirt. But anything that will help increase my odds of success with any of that is greatly appreciated and I think it's extremely kind of Rock to offer. My paying off all his old parking tickets has nothing to do with it. :D
I use a 30-60 gal air pump to run the airstones. I'll post pics and a full answer in the morning...
Actually MVP I reread all and figured it out.....Thanks. :)
Ps....photos of the inside would still be totally cool....thanks.....;)
amazingly, more than a year and a half later, after re-titling, and re-registering in another state, and transferring my lisence those idiots are still sending me threatening notices about my outdated registration renewal.:wtf:
lets just say its got lots to do with Galina, and other things ur yet to see,,,but will,,,,,mmmmkay:cool:
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Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
I got lost.....:stoned:
MVP are those airstones secured to the bottom of the bubbler somehow or just bouncing around blowing air? And what are the dimensions of your 16 qt container heightwise etc?
MVP I really hope you don't mind me posting these on your thread but it is a cloning thread so I was hoping to get away with it.
Rock is building me a super duper cloner but I figured I'd try something small and slapped together from stuff around the house. (Had no glue gun but ended up not using one ;)) to use until the neato one gets here. I would not have approached it if had not already had everything I needed but Mr Hound and I were kind of bored so....
My cuts are from way underneath on my 6 week flowering church plant. I'm not really expecting much from them as my first tries since I was very slow and clumsy and probably filled them with air embolisms and all sorts of bad voodoo. I also did not have a huge choice of "cuts" to select from.
I DID get the cloning gel on and the cloning solution in the bubbler at recommended strength. What else should I be doing here besides watching ph?
I have to say that is a real nice bubble cloner(and nice nail-polish:D)...i think im gonna make one myself...
that "cloning solution" what is it good for? it's a desinfect ??? or some light nute???
Thank you zeb....(the color is ice coffee tyvm) but let me say the little size I built is too small to be practical so fyi...go larger. ;) Mine really only holds two and even then there were issues with leaves bumping into each other etc....
The cloning solution is Clonex liquid mixed in with RO water and I just followed the directions on the back of the bottle and adjusted ph to 5.8. :)
You said that those cuts where 6 weeks into flowering....
they still can be "reveggd" so late in flowering??? or this is just an experiment??
They are an expirement BUT I did study up a little bit on cloning a flowering (actually a FINISHED) plant and found that it is doable....cloning a flowering plant NOT a finished plant.....although doable and doable by me are not the same thing. :D
Hound, awesome experimental cloner! I'm just getting to measuring the stuff I have and I'll post back after dinner... GF's calling, gotta go eat before it gets cold. Tri-Tip tonight...I did the grilling, she's doing the sides. I'll report back in about 45 min or so...
Thanks MVP....this one I hand you the credit for. Thanks for the tutorial. :thumbsup: