[QUOTE=GHoSToKeR]FACT:So, based on these facts, more guns = more deaths. So dont give me any of this "you dont know us" bullshit, the facts speak for themselves. Later[/QUOT
FACT: CANADA SUCKS!
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[QUOTE=GHoSToKeR]FACT:So, based on these facts, more guns = more deaths. So dont give me any of this "you dont know us" bullshit, the facts speak for themselves. Later[/QUOT
FACT: CANADA SUCKS!
You don't. I'm glad you don't. I'd be ashamed to know you.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
You're too full of hate, Ghost. If you dislike america so much, why don't you get off of this site, hosted no doubt by an American server, run by an American citizen? Hmm? It's prejudice minds like yours that keep this world in the hateful shape it's in. Not the fucking firearms.
You're a hateful little boy. I hope one day it comes back and bites you in the ass. And I hope it hurts like hell.
When did I say I hate America? I'm just proving the point that more guns = more crime, shootings, and violence. I dunno what you got sand in your vagina about, and frankly I dont give a shit. Stop being a pussy and crying just because something about your country isnt quite how you'd like to think. But, to be honest, I'm still puzzled over why you think I hate America? Yeah, I said theres more gun-crime, because there is. Yeah, I said I wouldnt like to live there, because I wouldnt; i'm much safer here. But I dont see how that makes me prejudice. And, Cleve, using that 'little boy' insult was a tad ironic , since i'm not the one who had to resort to name-calling because I got proved wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by clevemire
I don't think you hate America, you've got a right to speak your mind, regardless. But didn't you say that the per capita in Canada was .25%, and in the U.S. it's .82%? Then you say that 27% Canadian homicides were gun related, and over here it's 66%. So, if I'm correct, their firearms homicides are about 1/3 to our 5/8, and yet their percentage of gun users is greatly lower. so it sounds like those who do have guns up there use them on their fellow citizens a bit more than we do.
No comment on the crime rate here, it's embarassingly high.
We are a violent race, and this country (America) is a player on that field, as well as were the English, Germans, French, Russians....get the point? "Let he who is without guilt cast the first stone" (guess who said that?). Alright, no more stones. No marshmallows, either. Have we made mistakes? Bet your ass! Are we (humanity) learning anything from them? No, don't think so. Are we all maddened killer animals over here that talk with a wiseguy Brooklyn accent and shoot the paperboy because he smarts off at our daughters? Get real. A handful of desert dancers smacked a couple of airplanes into our nice skyscrapers a while back; it wasn't anybody's imagination. It really isn't Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, anymore, maybe never was. Alvin York was a pacifist, until he saw what war was really like, and so was I. Now there's a line in the sand, and if you cross it, I'm going to hurt you, OK? There's a limit to how many cheeks a guy can turn.
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Look, I dont hate the USA, I dont think my country is better than the USA, I dont hate Americans, etc etc etc.. The only things I am arguing against are guns! The only reason I mentioned the USA is because people in this thread have stated that guns help to reduce crime.. I just pointed out that gun crime is higher in the US, as there are moe guns in the US. Thats all I was saying. I dont hate anyone, and im not saying your country is worse/better than mine, because nationalism (you can call it patriosm, but lets be frank, its nationalism) is bullshit. I just dont like guns. If anybody got offended because they though I was insulting the USA, then I apologize - that was not my intention. BUT, if anybody was offended because I dont like guns/gun owners, then rightly so, you should be offended. Anybody in any country that promotes the use of guns (especially people who claim guns reduce crime and keep people safe) is an idiot.
Get off your high horse fella. You didn't prove me wrong. Maybe if my argument was actually about guns, you would have. Nice try. Your little too-little too-late apology isn't worth shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Let me explain: You see, none of your FACTs had anything close to 100%, and some of us tried to explain to you that not everyone here is all about guns and shit, but regardless of both, you called it 'bullshit' and obviously had a problem with all of us anyway. Can you blame us for getting on your case? That's what I have the problem with. I'm sorry, but you call our country sad, this is what happens. I didn't want to resort to name calling, but I tried for at least 2 posts to explain and reason with you like adults. Didn't work, so yeah I resorted to name calling. But I guess you're just impossible to reason with anyway.
The point is, this thread was about someone showing off their guns. Plain and simple. The topic asked nothing about whether you approved of them or not. Did it? Regardless, you came in here all crying about how you thought people here were cool, but since they like and own guns, you decided they weren't. By the way. Isn't that ironic? You just called me the whiner, but you certainly started the trend this time.
You contest a group of people on the boards, simply because of something they believe in. Not because of who they are, or what they themselves have done, but simply because of what they like. Is that not a form of prejudice?
You're just another cynical teenager who thinks they know all about life. Same story, different child..
yeah, i live in the us, and of course its fucked up and shitty. there are a lot more idiots than intelligent people. A LOT MORE. - that is why everything is always going to be fucked up. Also hints why bush is our president. ahaha
I was half-way through writing a long-assed reply, but I changed my mind, so i'll just say this: Fuck offQuote:
Originally Posted by clevemire
One last thing:
Sad:
Affected or characterized by sorrow or unhappiness.
Expressive of sorrow or unhappiness.
Causing sorrow or gloom; depressing: a sad movie; sad news.
Dark-hued; somber.
To coin a phrase from your President - the 'great' GWB - I think you "misunderestimated me".
My neighbor just got a pool... and I am really concerned that my hamster might get out of its cage and cross the street and fall in the pool.. I have added three new locks to hamsters cage... but I am still scared shitless that my hamster might get out and cross the street and fall in the pool... I am thinking about killing my neighbor and then filling in his pool with concrete.... this is porbably the safest, most humane and definitley most american way to deal with this Mother Fucker...
any suggestions... please help... this is so serious!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And please no suggestions from pansy asses like GHOST who don't have the dedication and the balls and the guts and the glory to save hamsters across this great COUNTRY of OURS!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao. who wudve thought a thread about a guy posting pics of his plastic guns would turn out into a hamster getting shot and a pool full of concrete :confused:
...what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garden Knowm
Shit. Nevermind. This will just go on forever.
Let's just agree to disagree.
Agreed
yd u edit that big post cleve was i not supposed to see it? lol to late and im gonna tell all!!!!!!!!!!!! ha sike. i always write posts and then after i post them think its shit and edit em. anywho toke on :)
what: which thing or which particular one of many.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
did you lose your dictionary ghost? lol.
LOL so you really are a rogue! Gotta watch out for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
I was going to go on a whole tirade again, but it was all just getting too personal for it's own good. I'm not here to make enemies out of good people.
Yeah, what he said.
I'm an American, an idiot, and will now fuck off.
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So you are saying we should listen to a government that lies to us and give up our firearms? Why should we have a government that is corrupt and let it disarm it's own people? I believe the people should always have more power than the government. We are becoming more and more oppressed everyday here. Just more of a reason to arm yourself in my eyes. If you regard the facts more closely and look at individual states in the US, you will see that the high crime areas are the areas with the strictest gun control laws. States with low gun control have significantly lower crime rates than states where guns are heavily restricted. Look at our nation's capitol, Washington DC, high crime rate, you can't even own pepper spray there, yet there are gang shootings all the time and people dying there every day on the news. If you choose to defend yourself there you are automatically a criminal. Is this okay with you Ghost???Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Sawleaf, I give up. I was looking some facts up on the internet earlier (its my day-off, so I was bored lol), and i've found convincing arguements for both sides - some saying that gun control causes more gun crime, and some saying that less gun control equates to more gun crime. So who knows? Maybe if guns were illegal in the US, there would be less gun crime than there is now, maybe there would be more - theres no way to tell, you cant erase history and start over. I'm gonna have to change my position and sit on the fence for this one. I'm not saying that i've changed my opinion on guns: I still dislike them, just as I dislike knives, police, and Vanilla flavoured ice-cream. But maybe I was wrong when I said 'more guns = more crime'. Again, who knows? Its the same thing for the ''Legalisation of Cannabis will cause more Cannabis use' or 'Legalisation of Cannabis will reduce Cannabis use'' debate. No one will ever know. You can change the laws, or you can keep them the same, but you cant change whats happened in the past, and you cant just start over.
One more thing... I dont know why everyone seems to think that I hate America and Americans. I said that America has more guns and more gun crime than most places; I was using it as an example. I also said, judging by the amount of gun-crime, I wouldnt like to live in America because i'm safer here - even the police dont carry guns, I dont even think they own any.. But I didnt say I dislike America or Americans, and i'll enver say that, because its not true. So, yeah..
Oh I never said you hate America Ghost. I know there is no way to prove that guns cause or lessen crime really. Statistics show that they do both. I guess it really depends on the people and people are different everywhere. I never really try to argue the crime thing much, because there is too much facts for both sides. My view on firearm ownership is pretty much that you should be able to own what you want as long as you are responsible. I think punishment for misuse of a firearm should actually be stricter than it is currently. Ran across this news article on CNN.com this morning while reading the news. Was strange because it was right after I posted my last post on this thread. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/26/sto....ap/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Woot! Finally someone whos managed to reply to one of my posts without the words "Fuck you" being in the reply. lol
That news article is interesting. Its strange to me, though. I mean, sure the burglars were posing a threat, and sure, the old couple were protecting themselves, but I find it wierd how people always value their own life over everyones elses. It comes back to that 'kill or be killed' thing, I guess.
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
I hate guns, and the inbreds who own them
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Originally Posted by sawleaf
Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime.
As for the whole "we gun owners are keeping the government in check" argument, thats absurd. Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government. Your little gun isnt going to shit against the FBI ATF and whoever else uncle sam wants to sick on your ass.
Its moronic to say states with gun control laws have more crime. Thats why guns were banned there, the high crime. No place bans guns and then the criminals go on a spree, that doesnt happen except in an nra pamplet. You need to ban guns america wide, thats the only way. You cant sell guns in one town and ban them in the next one, but you can make them much harder to get by banning them nation wide. It works everywhere else in the world, but you guys dont much about that place out there.
And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns
"that doesnt happen except in an NRA pamphlet". LOL, I like that
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Originally Posted by braindead
on your level of intellect
maybe you can understand this ya brainless twit
the best part of you ran out the crack ya mamma's ass and stained a back seat of taxi
my gun owning american southern attitude dont like your racist crap
and yes that racist towards americans
if you dont see that go back to 3rd grade
That speaks for itself, really. Nowhereman, I didnt know you were such a stupid piece of shit. You call somebody racist, and try and act all high and mighty, and then say that in the same sentence. I wouldnt start talking about anybodies intellect, if I were you; you dont wanna embarrass yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by NowhereMan
Uh oh, are you gonna threaten to 'kick my lil punk ass' now?
Hahahaaha
Yes, Ghost I must agree Vanilla flavoured ice-cream is to be disliked!!!
unlike Roger Rabbit now hes cool,:D do ya'll remember "Who framed Roger Rabbit"???!?!?!?!!?!?
w000000000t now Jessica Rabbit was hotness ;)
gotta love them sexy cartoons :p
anyone wanna play pattycake :eek: :) ;) :p
dude, first off braindead QUOTE: "I hate guns, and the inbreds who own them"-fuck you. man statistics are bullshit. you cant just go country to country and look at their crime rates and shit.......a whole bunch of other shit goes into play when coming up with these statistics (bullshit), bc thats what statisctics are. did you ever take into effect the population percentages of these countries too??? because that would give you a lot more accurate of a statistic. thats cool you wouldnt shoot a guy if he came in your house and raped your wife......well guess what....i would blow the fuck out o f him. i would use every fucking round in the gun, and just in case he lived, i would shoot his balls off. oh, and, do you think that nobody where you live would do that?? or is it bc its against the law,,,,dont you think any of them would love to do that?? you fuckin bet they would. -we can only shoot people in life threatening situations (very broad category) or if they are in our house and not supposed to be, like if they intend to KILL ME or take some of my shit. they know they run that risk man. its not like a fucking surprise.
QUOTE: braindead says :"Yes people who "defend themselves" with guns are criminals. Its that way in every other nation in the world. Only you american cowboys think the answer to crime is start shooting. Thats a backward and ignorant attitude. People have guns in canada, aus, nz, but in all those countries its illegal to use them as self defence, unless its an animal attacking you. I dont care if a gang breaks in and rapes your wife, shooting them adds to the problem of crime."-- dude, you know why its fair, and why if someone breaks in my house, i would decide my life over theirs is??? they know they run the risk before they even broke in. If they are going to run that risk to steal few pricy electronics, then that was THEIR conscious decision. its kind of like they signed a waiver or something......
braindead QUOTE: "Every iraqi is allowed to have an ak-47 and it hasnt help them defnd themselves from evil american government." - WHAT THE FUCK!!!????
are you serious man??? haha, well if you are, then SHUT THE FUCK UP, i dont feel i need to explain myself on that one.
QUOTE: braindead says: "And i hate americans so fuck you and your guns"
dude...............shut the fuck up man.........just do it......youre too damn opinionated to bring back a valid argument............just stop........peace
but FUCK YOU braindead
What's really moronic is this post of yours. It is obvious that it is just your opinion that you are posting and nothing else. Look up crime statistics in high gun control states before you spout off idiotic shit like this. Gun control works in some places and doesn't work in others. But here in the USA, it doesn't work. Australia's crime rate is on the rise since they enacted their gun laws. I guarantee that if a gang broke into your house and raped your wife, you'd shoot them if you were armed. Nobody wants to be another victim. I do hope that never happens to you also, even though you seem to hate a lot of people you have never met. Every Iraqi is armed, but they are too damn pussy and divided to overthrow Saddam. Look what a few armed people did at Waco, they did outgun the ATF and hold them off. Too bad they were trapped in a building and the feds burned them all up. So if people choose to defend themselves with guns, then they are criminals in your eyes. So what if they choose knifes, clubs, fists? Where do you draw the line? Are people even allowed to defend themselves at all in your eyes? You know, don't even answer this. You've already shown what type of person you are with such a ridiculous, hatefilled, stereotypical, ignorant post. You truely are Braindead.Quote:
Originally Posted by braindead
QUOTE: sawleaf says: "You truely are Braindead." -- i 2nd that notion.
ghost, i never said fuckyou in any of my replies. i said some other things but not that.
now you jump up on the fence after all them "FACTS" you posted. damn, you have that choice i guess. is your ship sinking? remember women and children first. lol.
to Braindead, QUOTE: sawleaf says: "Your truely Braindead."--- i third that notion!
this kid in the second grade took my sandwhich and i have vowed to carry a gun and support gun rights ever since... people can't just go around and take peoples stuff.. it not ok.. I also had a big wheel that got taken... by this really poor kid down the street... I really wish i would have been man enough to shoot him... I called the cops and nowhere mans dad showed up and shot this little kid.. and got me my big wheel back.. tell you dad thanks : )
another time this guy called me swear word and I just totally lost it and told him to shut up... i wish i would have had a gun...
i just talked with lulu and now he is now officially a truly braindead and BANNED asshole.
Where is this topic even going anymore? There's way too much hate here.
I'm all for expressing opinions, but it seems like almost everyone is way more interested in pissing each other off, than actually trying to make a good point. That's not the stoner way.
Instead of just rambling on and on, why don't all of you wanna-be activists (pro or anti gun) actually do something about it, instead of sitting here bitching?
QUOTE: garden says: "this kid in the second grade took my sandwhich and i have vowed to carry a gun and support gun rights ever since... people can't just go around and take peoples stuff.. it not ok.. I also had a big wheel that got taken... by this really poor kid down the street... I really wish i would have been man enough to shoot him... I called the cops and nowhere mans dad showed up and shot this little kid.. and got me my big wheel back.. tell you dad thanks : )
another time this guy called me swear word and I just totally lost it and told him to shut up... i wish i would have had a gun..."
wtf??????
yeah.....im going to leave this website, and go find a website with LESS assholes. whos coming?
I do bro, NRA member and pro-gun activist. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by clevemire
I'm an asshole... so i guess I'll stay here : (
bye : (
Very cool. I had figured you would be one of the very few here who would actually be active behind the scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
Don't let a couple of assholes deter you from this site slipnslide. There's a bunch of very cool people here. You just have to weed out the jerks. It's worth it, IMO.