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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
while ammending the reservoir yesterday i noticed a strong smell of piss. I'm wondering if some punk mf visiting in my absence urinated in my reservoir. The odd ocassion has arisen where peeps have mentioned it, and I wouldn't put it past them to be so childish.. I just hope I'm not putting my hands in someone elses piss when i do res ammendments
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
The levels are good.
I shall drain the reservoir tomorrow because I am dubious about piss in my reservoir. I hope I'm incorect and people haven't been pissin in my reservoir! Time to introduce a 4inch thick reinforced steel door?
pH 6.1 but downed to 5.7
EC 1.5
Growth is still very good.
Not much else to add!!
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
ooooooooooooooooooooooo my goood. these pix look like some marijuana pron.
this grow looks sick in the best way possible.
grow on man grow on.:D
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Cheers Hydrocannabis...
I haven't done my res change yet, but i reckon today is the day....
I need to have my res fresh for when the plants decide to have a girth spurt (usually happens)... that'll be n e time soon....
Yesterday the levels were ok. The res was low so I topped off with 30L od ap water then balanced the pH. The EC was around 1.5. I added a dash of Carboload and a plop of Barricade to the res...
Today will be res scrub and flush and maybe photo op...
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:eek: Nice plants. I have to start counting how many! haha. Looking great, man.
I have a new log. It's in my sig
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;) New Madman Thread. :thumbsup:
Be cool, home.grower. :greenthumb:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
I didn't manage to flush my res yesterday as I had other duties in the garden to attend to. I did however check the pH and EC levels giving 6.1/1.2
This morning I went in before lights out and scrubbed the system and drained the res. I replenished with pH 5.6 water without any additives and left the system running. I will do a second drain and replenish shortly then apply a full mix of all addatives to EC1.2-1.4.
I have chronic signs of over fert again due to the EC2.2 occuring for a second time... I will take some pix shortly and get them posted.
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I suppose I keep loosing sight of the propterties of DWC style cultivation.
The changes in pH and EC are constant variables and demand attention.
I have been quite used to growing in potted coco media and taking EC levels to the max... The signs of over fert come on much slower with soil. Hydro is very much unforgiving to those who do not apply their full attention to their work. but I can see that the rewards can be quite generous.
I've also lost sight of the fact that I'm currently farming very small plants. Some of those small plants are less than one-fith the size of plants that are normally grown, so I should have been bearing in mind that the transportation of nute to the plants vital areas will be quick in comparrison to 4-5 ft tall potted plants... I'm ready to give it another shot, but next time I'll employ factors that will stop over fert problems... ~(over fert seems to be my only major fault, apart from not switching the pump on sometimes for over a day)...
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Yeah over ferting seems to be a common problem w. hydro if you don't pay attention. Luckily you can flush em out pretty easily. Nice compact plants, they are filling in nicely. I noticed not a ton of secondary shoots, any reason or just the way the strain grows?
Great work thus far, I think you are going to have a nice ass harvest. What size trays are those? I see you have 16 plants on each...maybe a 5 by 4?
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
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Originally Posted by razzapiggy
...Nice compact plants, they are filling in nicely. I noticed not a ton of secondary shoots, any reason or just the way the strain grows?
Great work thus far, I think you are going to have a nice ass harvest. What size trays are those? I see you have 16 plants on each...maybe a 5 by 4?
These plants arrives as clones and didn't have much in the way of veg time. They were literally rooted in cubes then moved straight to flower. It was around 20 days from cutting to bloom day1. That is why they are small and probably why they have little or no branches.
Each tray is about 2'x4' as is the reservoir. The area taken up is close to the dimensions you said 5'x4' under 1x600W-HPS.
Thanks for dropping by
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
On my last visit to the garden I added to the reservoir a
fresh supply of water (70L)
25mL Fulvic F-1
25mL Humic H-2
10mL CarboLoad
5mL Barricade
50mL Overdrive
20mL Sensi Bloom A&B
30mL Mother Earth Super Tea Bloom
That sounds like a lot but my resultant EC was only 1.0!
I wanted to mix a very dilute formula so that I could leave the system flooding over night... I need not worry about drowning the roots because my submersed air line beneath the pots is still functioning and providing oxygen to the roots. The last fixture was the pH @ 5.6
This morning the EC had risen to 1.2 and the pH was around 6.2. I pH downed and won't make any more ammendments today. I'm certain they have swelled up a little since yesterday, but it isn't quite time for the girth spurt. fingers crossed!!!
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
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Originally Posted by home.grower
The changes in pH and EC are constant variables and demand attention.
I have been quite used to growing in potted coco media and taking EC levels to the max... The signs of over fert come on much slower with soil. Hydro is very much unforgiving to those who do not apply their full attention to their work. but I can see that the rewards can be quite generous
That is as accurately said as anything I've ever heard. :thumbsup: Sums hydro up beautifully in my book.
I don't think it makes much difference about plant size in hydro however....everything seems to move pretty fast through the whole plant either big or small imho....:)
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
YeeHaa!!
~Ok, so I haven't kept the diary toally up to date for the past few days. but not much has changed really.
~After adding the full host of nutes on day 46, I have only had to pH down every other day. The EC hasn't risen an awful lot because I only EC'd upto 1.2 when I added all the nutes. The EC had rose a little, but not much. I added a dash of Mother Earth Bloom and Overdrive to the mix after 3 days. Ph downing was the only requirement up until yesterday. Yesterday, I emptied 15L and topped off with 30L of tap water. I then adjusted the pH to the required range.
~Today I've emptied the reservoir and flooded the system for three quarters of an hour. I then added a splash of Mother Earth Bloom and have left the system running with a very mild dose of organic feed.
~Later on I will add the last full mix of nutes to the reservoir (F1, H2, Barricade, Sensi Bloom, Overdrive, (I'm all out of carboload)).
I have taken a few pix of the progress so far. I have spent some time trimming the decaying leaves off many of the plants. All plants now have very firm buds (not attributed to trimming the leaves). Not all of them have the same firmness all the way down the plant, but this will change over the next few days. I'm anticipating a spurt in girth any time soon aswell. I'm not certain it will happen, but I've seen it happen on every grow to date (except the ones that were harvested prematurely).
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Hey home.grower They look great !! I have been following your grow and it looks like you study up alot before you started.Good growing man. PEACE
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Originally Posted by crazywill
Hey home.grower They look great !! I have been following your grow and it looks like you study up alot before you started.Good growing man. PEACE
Thanks for looking in crazywill. I have attempted NFT many years ago when I began growing. I was unsucessful to say the least. Over the course of time I conversed with people knowledgeable about cultivating herb, read books, surfed the net, and utilised Cannabis.Com to develop my, then, soil/coco skills. I am a confident soil/coco grower.
Waste is a big problem with soil/coco type mediums. It is also costly buying half a tonne of it every time a new set of strains are put to flower, then having to dispose of it! I've put my mind to hydro as a cost effective means of reaping the same, if not better, rewards with less waste (not quite carbon neutral, but tending towards)...
As the pix show, the plants are very small and started off even tinier. This will be an example of what I can expect as a minimun yeild per 600W-HPS. I will then be able to calulate my saving in waste material and compare my average soil/coco results with my new mininum hydro expectations (bearing in mind I didn't veg these clones when I put em on the hydro system).
Example of a saving...
32 plants would normally start in half litre pots [32 * 0.5 = 16L of soil]
Then repotted to 6.5L pots with clay [32 * 5 = 160L of soil (+ 20L clay)]
Then they take up shit-loads of space after purchasing around 200L of grow medium.
Hydro, this time round, Less than 50L of clay for the same amount of plants, and if I were to fill the garden with 5 hydro systems (one under each 600W-HPS) then I'd have 32 * 5 = 160 plants that I'd veg for a week instead of flowering straight away that should produce much more than a room rammed with soil/coco grown plants.
This is all an experiment to see if its worth becoming a converted grower. ATM I'm not looking back! I'd so love to do this again, but patching up where I went wrong this time and having a much better result next time. Cheers for tuning in crazywill.
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Welcome! Akwaaba!
It's day 53. I didn't add the full host of nutes yesterday as I planned to. Today I've added a splash of Sensi Bloom A&B and Overdrive to the res accompanied with 15L of tap water. The resultant EC was 1.3 and the pH was left at 5.7.
I've decided to leave the system running on flood for the next few days. I'm sure the buds stay firm when the system floods all the time. And I'm sure they go a little softer when the flood stops. Hmmmmmmm. So I'm experimenting here leaving the system flooding. I'm not in fear of drowning the roots because of the submersed airline beneath each pot.
When I've done soil type mediums in the past, at this stage I can never seem to keep up with the watering (reaching the end of week 8). The plants normally tend to drink and drink and drink in my garden. There are potted ~(15L pots)~ plants in the room and they are consuming 3L daily and are looking wilted every day. They are into week 10 of bloom.
Back to the Hydro... A couple of the plants that look like G13 appear to be finishing up. They are quite stiff and well packed. I'll attempt some photgraphy soon. The Sensi Stars will then follow. I think the tall ones are AK47 from their mature appearance and they will take longest as their flowers keep deflating when the pump is off. Whatever else in on there will follow inbetween or after, but I think that is all the strains there are. (Maybe some of the ones I think are AK47 are actually Chronic, they look similar to me).
Not long til harvest folks!
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Welcome folks.
Events have occurred which are affecting the overall production of bud.
New clones have arrived early for the next grow and there has been no place to store them as I expected to be finishing up any time soon. I've had little choice but to expose the blooming plants to 24hrs of light for 2 days.
Growth has been affected in so far as 50% of tops have begun at least 1cm of new vertical growth. This is something I shall photograph. Bud formation has been steadily firming up and all plants are very firm. The supposed AK47 strain looks like it will be a late finisher. The Sensi stars should be coming out sometime in the next 5 days, as will numerous G13. The mentioned strains are budding up and swelling beyond the length of the pistils. The rest still look like they have 7-14 days left to swell up.
I haven't been feeding them much either. The res pH has remained balanced with daily amendments while the EC has been kept below 1.2. I might do a res change tomorrow also.
Tomorrow I have to section the garden in 2 halves to enable me to get back to finishing these little monsters. I can't wait to chop them. I've cut off a sneaky bud from what looks and smells like Bug Budha Cheese. I shall smoke it in about 5-7 days then ~I'll have a rough idea of the final product.
Tune in for more updates and pix tomorrow folks
Happy Toking
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Welcome back...
I've divided the room in to two. I haven't done it properly. There are a couple of reasons. One of them being that doing a lot of work to remove it after a week or two? So, a bit of light is still creeping into my bloom area.
I added final phase to a new fresh reservoir and pH balanced it. At day 60 I'm deciding to be a light weight and throw the towel in. I will leave the system on timed flooding for the next 7-10 days. I will then chop the lot!
Today I rinsed 2 of the smallest (as near as finished) plants under a running tap for a few minutes and chopped em. Combined, the weight was 45g / 1.5Oz wet (one was 20g the other 25g). By the time those dry fully 7-10 days should be near ending.
I've take some pix of the stage I'm about to shut down @.
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ph flux could be related to your tap water
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Today I've checked the bud density and have decided to continually flood for most of the day.
The timed floods makes the buds go a lil softer!
I'm about to weigh the chopped bud.
Last night I smoked a joint of the nugs I chopped earlier and I was totally hammered.
Standby for pix of the unimpressive root mass from the chopped plants.
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
Harvested after 66 Days in bloom.
I didn't get to achieve the grand exit I was after..
Due to Mr Clone Supplier being over a month early, it got to a point where it was decided that the new clones had a little more importance than the hydro.
The new clones were potted and put in the bloom room, but the blooming lighting was switched to veg/24hrs. For around a week, the hydro plants have not been under the right lighting conditions for a week or more. Growth had reverted back to veg, obviously.
Maybe next time when I purchase 48 hydro buckets I won't face the same problems.
The quality of the dried product is pretty good. Not so much flavorsome as cerebral in its high. All my associates who have sampled it like it. I think there is plenty of room for improvement.
The new ladies are still in veg and much of them are a couple inches taller than the tallest hydro bud I've just chopped. There are plenty of bud sites. They will finish up between 4 and 5 feet as this is usually the case with our coco potted plants. Harvest off them will be in the region of 85 (poorest) to 115 (bestest) ounces. Harvest off this hydro under one light will be in the region of 15-25 ounces. I will do the math once its dry.
Sorry my diary of events has gotten choppy towards the end. I might do another log for the potted plants that spent their first day in bloom lastnight. Standby for drying bud pix!!
thanks for reading fellow herbalists
THE END!
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
here's a pic of the drying budd.. My next update shall include the over all weight
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
hi what is the over all weight
on your grow ? ? ? ?
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Diary:31/05/07: Flood & Drain 1st Try
The over all weight was a pathetic 6 ounces... but follow my next thread as I'm trying something different... cheers for dropping by