High Or Sober for rest of your life?

stoned

I'd choose sober, too, but in the old-fashioned meaning of the word. Right now, I'm sober AND staight, and have been so for a while - despite the impression that I may give sometimes.

I think that the usage of sober might have become blurred in the 1980's with the rising rate of cross-addictions, twelve-step programs, and phrases like, "clean and sober". What does being "clean" have to do with drugs and alcohol, anyway? There are plenty of well-scrubbed drunks and junkies. I'd think that being sober is good enough, and one should worry about hygiene after that is accomplished. :p

sober

All the time? You know, I'm not really too sure.

I think I am already heading that way seeing as i am pretty much high all the time anyway

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

I'd choose sober, too, but in the old-fashioned meaning of the word. Right now, I'm sober AND staight, and have been so for a while - despite the impression that I may give sometimes.

I think that the usage of sober might have become blurred in the 1980's with the rising rate of cross-addictions, twelve-step programs, and phrases like, "clean and sober". What does being "clean" have to do with drugs and alcohol, anyway? There are plenty of well-scrubbed drunks and junkies. I'd think that being sober is good enough, and one should worry about hygiene after that is accomplished. :p

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man why such waffle? think of sober as NOT bieng under the influence of recreational drugs, in this case cannabis since this is a cannabis forum. Did it not cross your mind that your body is cleaner without recreational drugs? hence the term "clean"

so back to topic - sober.

High til die

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Originally Posted by azure

man why such waffle? think of sober as NOT bieng under the influence of recreational drugs, in this case cannabis since this is a cannabis forum. Did it not cross your mind that your body is cleaner without recreational drugs? hence the term "clean"

so back to topic - sober.

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If that is what it means to be "clean and sober", it's redundant. The phrase "clean" also throws a negative light on using any substance, i.e. being high is "dirty", or criminal-like. I believe that this phrase was started by AA type groups when people that used substances in addition to alcohol started participating in the meetings.

I have no objection to using the word "sober" for being not-stoned on things other than alcohol, I just was wondering when it started for marijuana use. Oh yes, I don't use the term "cannabis" much either - not that there's anything wrong with it.........

I just don't like the association of marijuana, when used alone, with addictive, dangerous substances.

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Originally Posted by lazy smoker7

lol lets add one more thing... lets says the fairy also gave you a box in which every time you open it ,there is a red joint which makes you higer if you smoke it and a blue joint which makes you sober for a day if you smoke it. but the blue joints will stop reapearing after you smoke 1000 blue joints... and after u smoke 1000 blue joints they both are red joints and if you smoke the wrong red joint.... u get stuck in a acid like trip forever... but the only way to get rid of the high spell placed by the fairy is to push a green button on top of mount everest... wich might be kinda hard to do lol espically stoned off ur ass lol

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I think you smoke too much.

Based on this response I have chosen "sober" to the original question...

But yeah um... I'll pass on the acid trip and Mount Everest. Do you actually need to climb the mountain, or just THINk you did?

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

being high is "dirty", or criminal-like..........

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But what if you're just high on life?
Or better still, high on your horse?
Or on yourself?