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Originally Posted by Zimzum
you are having selective reading again
I say we all need to cut emmisions even if there was no global warming....
how do you get "FUCK it"...out of that?
I say fuck it to libs that want to STIFLE the debate, not about cutting emmisions.
See ZiM I have Bad asthma...On Red pullution days I can bearly brethe. I want pollutiuon lower like every one else....
Well here is something for you to chew on, then.
I believed you called me a liberal...I laugh.
If I had my way...We would be building a wall on the southern border...Just for a start.
Now we are getting to the bottom of it... you are still mad the Bush won the Electoral college VOTE.Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
See Latewood there are these things called checks and Balances in Our goverment... With the Electoral college, and the Supreme court, you could lose the popular vote and win the Election.....
here is the difference.....Libs Lost...VOTER FRAUD...THE SYTEM DOESNT WORK...BLAH BLAH...you still are not over it...LOL
But when the Libs won in 06 the GOP took stock didnt call voter fraud, cause like before there was none.... HUmmmmmm
Just understand that Bush will be gone and we will have a chance to vote a real american into office.
Its not clinton, or Edwards or Gore or Obama......sorry
Shit late wood ill meet you there.... we need to unite....Bush will be gone, so the Libs that are still Mad need to get over it and lets pull together...Debate all points, and Talk about all enemys foreign and domestic.....
You questions here don't really make sense to me, Bong. Global warming (or whatever anyone wants to call it) isn't in question factually or scientifically. Nor is the fact that cattle emissions contribute to the problem. The two aren't mutually exclusive, just as the fact that other planets in the solar system go through warming trends, too, doesn't exclude the fact that humans, animals, and industrial emissions are aggravating the problem here on earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
The other strangely nonsensical thing was your postulation that libs want to stifle the debate about emissions/pollution. Libs are the ones who started that debate, my friend. They're the ones who care about it today and are also the ones who cared about it 35 and 40 years ago when they were seen as "tree-hugging" crazies. They're the ones who're far more likely to effect environmental change and raise awareness. Your fossil-fuel-connected, big-oil Republicans are the ones with their heads in the sand on that topic, the ones who don't believe emissions are even a problem affecting our climate, much less a problem that needs fixing.
you folks amuse the shit out of me. bong with his hatred of all things liberal and so many of you others who seem to despise the conservatives with equal zeal, are any of you really paying attention? the above lecture by chichton is an accurate portrayal of the sorry state of the modern scientific community and yet it doesn't seem to bother any of you that the facts you are basing all of your arguments on are hopelessly tangled in webs of politics and deception (pardon my redundancy). you seem to have convinced yourselves that just because the leaders of your particular ideological niche declare that a consensus has been reached that it must be true.
yeah, i'm an old hippie and over the last thirty some odd years i've donated more than my fair share of time and money to the very causes many of you libs claim to espouse, but just lately i've cut a lot of that shit out. i realized that the counter culture, whose ideals i had spent so much of my life fighting for, and big business/politics, who i had dedicated my life to opposing, were both telling me the same lies. that line between us and them had at first blurred and then completely disappeared. the left is now running the same game on us that those old reactionary bastards used to and nobody seems to notice or care.
i know that the concept of man made global warming fits in quite nicely with all of our old stands against pollution and over development and i know that it is easier to fight against an unjust system than to see the truths they have mixed in with their lies. i would love to believe that the leaders of the left are still fighting for the working man and a just cause, but the socialist agenda they have developed is no friendlier to the common folk than the greedy tyrants of the right. the real inconvenient truth is that this new wave of environmental activists is nothing more than a bunch of attention whores, basking in the glory and power to be gained by twisting the truth to fit their needs. the worst inconvenient truth is that the revolution is over, the battles have all been lost and the martyrs died in vain.
Delusions, if I could give ya rep, I would. ;)
The process has become so politicized that we cannot trust the science and the agendas of both sides preclude any actual fact (what little of it there is) from being accepted.
I'll repeat, if anybody thinks they know the cause of climate change, in my opinion, they are deluding themselves.
If we could enforce blind studies financed by a general science fund, making it so that the scientists themselves would not be beholden to their "financial masters", we could start to maybe, just maybe, trust again what the scientific community says...Until that happens, it's just propoganda being spewed by one side or the other.
with all us sheep in the middle being driven from one side of the pen to the other.:hippy: fuck 'em all, i'm gonna get high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fencewalker
anyone read that information by a ex Canadian minster sayin the link to stopping global warming is UFO's...
The sun if anything is in its burn out phase, so if anything the sun is getting colder not that we will notice in our life time,the only reason the planet is getting hotter is because the ozone layer, think of the ozone layer being the top of ur clone chamber and the moisture inside it being the rain, now, the top of ur clone chamer is slowly melting away and this is casueing the moisture to evaperate through the holes and greenhouse effect to loose moisture and disrupting the enviroment inside.this is why in there is erradical weather all over the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by latewood
Denying that we are the cause of the problem is just denial to the fact that we are destroying the planet, its a fact think about it, all the cars in the world pumping out carbons,all the coal power plants,all the factorys spewing out raw pollution, over poplulation,surage discharge from houses.
Ozone levels, over the northern hemisphere, have been dropping by 4% per decade. Over approximately 5% of the Earth's surface, around the north and south poles, much larger
Someone mentioned the science being corrupted...Yes it is, because the government and industry has the $$$ they either payoff climtology experts or discredit "same" with inuendo and false accusations. This is the basis of my evolving beliefs. The members of the science community that were stifled in years past are now becoming willing to discuss there findings. Remember that most of these true genius' are coerced by confidentiality agreements and would have to sacrifice their careers in order to speak out. Somehow that point always get's missed when asking; why hasn't anyone talked about this before. Well there is the "other" reason. It wasn't profitable!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
bong...You don't know much about me. I have backed republican's almost my entire adult life. from Nixon right past Reagan. So you are way off base reading me. :smokin:
It is never going to be anyone from one of the parties. If we find a human being to staff the whitehouse, That person will be independent. hillary's a crook...whether "they" got away with it or not ;) (wish I had someone to go to jail for me!)...Edwards...too close too home, but his state did de-criminalize pot,:thumbsup: and I think you can grow hemp in NC too. Is Gore running? you see I don't really care about that??? I feel bad for Obama, just because it rhymes with Osama...Not a chance. I can't believe he is running...Of course there is always the notion; "As long as they are talking about you"...
You want to get behind a cause. Get behind "hemp" Hemp easily could be the foundation of turning the emmission's and economical problems...as well as bringing the boys/girls home. :thumbsup:
And before anyone says the wrong thing top me about the War. I lost a great and dear friend at Nasaryia the 3rd day of this Occupation.
Hemp! I am going to start a conspiracy thread in order to bring to light the real truth's behind the criminalization of hemp...renamed marijuana for the vote in the legislature. No-one knew what it was...and why American's should be pushing legislation to allow farmers to grow hemp.
It could be the next boom. People of all walks of life go to the country and buy the dilapidated abandoned farms...let down by who???You guessed it. the gov screwed the farmers too...Republican agendas...Sorry :cool:
here is the conspiracy. The government cronies, bought and paid for by randolph hearst, and fueled by the prohibiton era...the courts; (allowed for preselected jurors and railroaded defendant after defendant)Hearst interest in shutting down the most versatile fabric in the world..."paper and pulp." He's known for his newspaper empire, but where do you think he and everyone else got their paper. God forbid we use hemp to make paper...stronger than pulp, We could stop raping the rainforests, and national land. For clothing...6x's as strong as cotton...oooops
Better wait and start my thread. later.
Bong, I am glad you clarified that you realize there is a problem.