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Hah I came here to post this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I have this reoccurring dream that I am back in high school and all I'm doing is skating around, usually away from someone or toward something else. It's strange because the dream usually follows a pattern. By the end of the dream, I have had sex, skated through the halls of my school and encountered some sort of dangerous, exotic creature.
Oh yeah! What's your point?
Yeah too right.
I've always maintained, well for a few years now, what is the difference bewteen when you imagine a tune you have heard in your mind and actually listening to it?
My mother recently said she had never seen a ghost, and i replied no you have never seen one whilst you have been awake. I think our minds connect on the same plane or planes when we dream, sometimes, not necessary always, when you meet someone you know in a dream i think the other person is there too. They are sometimes people who are awake and maybe also the spirits of dead people. I think I have connected with a dead relative in my sleep 2 times.
Sometimes our senses and dreams can decieve us. However, to be decieved we need a conception of truth. Dreams are based on reality and so cannot decieve us about the basic constituents of reality; such as time and space, colours and shapes.
Je pense, donc je suis...
Sure they can dreams are not just a sub-reality, dreams may incorporate reality however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Sorry for the DP.
I remember when i first got high, like REALLY got high.
I also remember the first time I hallucinated.
Both of them struck me so hard that I'm still reeling to this day. They showed me that reality isn't definitive, life is entirely based on perception, and the thing about perceiving is that its not the thing itself (very hard concept to grasp here people so i'll do my best to explain it) but is an alteration or representation of the thing.
Like when we look at a tree we are receiving unique data that is stored or interpreted to mean tree, and our memory of that tree is not the tree itself but a kind of coded representation of that tree, someone else could have looked at that same tree and seen an entirely different tree, perhaps because they were looking from a different angle.
Sorry for the TP, but you can only edit for 5 min
Continued from previous post!
So when you hallucinate, you are experiencing the same thing from a different perspective, you might look at a tree and see something your mind cant even comprehend because you've never seen it before, just like a newborn wouldn't recognize it at first, without prior memories of it.
The mind is an advanced tool to store information gathered through other senses that we have evolved. It makes sense of things through repetition and order based within itself.
I do so much thinking and contemplating about subjects like this, especially since my first delve into the unknown universe (that vague enough for you???)
I don't see how the government can cover up something so well, how they hide something so important that it is most likely the origin of consciousness. The ancient greeks would use a drink made of ergot (sound familiar) or if not ergot they used amanita muscaria. In fact only the aristocrats of ancient times and very important people we're allowed into the rituals that used this kind of hallucinogen.
It's a very close kept secret because its so sensitive particularly because IMO they used hallucinogens to created a guided trip which gave them a knowledge about reality that is so profound it effects the very reason we are the way we are. Think about what a hallucination is, simply put its a different electrical pattern in your neurons which is caused by a particular chemical that happens to be similar enough to an existing brain chemical that its compatible but creates a different environment with different reactions. So you're still in the same reality but everything you experience is foreign.
What if you were to create a setting in which the affected individual is presented with surroundings that their brain uses and stores as something profound (because its so intense that its memorable, excuse the pun) and that memory which comes from a foreign reality and now the clincher, the memory has an effect and a bearing on our present normal* reality. Most use now days of hallucinogens is in a setting so arbitrary and remote from what it should be that probably damages the brain more than it helps.
I think if hallucinogens were used properly we would advance so dramatically that we would be on the high path to achieving our potential.
This is one of the reasons im so paranoid and such a conspiracy nutter, because we've lost touch with the origin of ourselves, and that can't be good at all. Instead its replaced by the thrill of modern technology which is man made and artificial, losing touch with nature entirely will only be our downfall (look at global warming and pollution, not just smog pollution but radioactive and waste chemical pollution).
After all, we came from nature.
i think you know exactly where its at.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwirlyMass
i also think we think alike
i think humanity really has lost focus on whats important. we idealize this meaningless shit, hollywood and the news and gadgets and money, and none of it has any meaning. it keeps us distracted. when your mind is constantly processing all this new information, you cant possible create origional thoughts as easily. i think a major probolem is people dont see this, and buy into the illusuioned world we have set up for us!
when i think about it, i get this weird thought, its like everything becomes disconnected. why does money matter, because money is only money because we make it money. same thing with school, responsibility, basically any part of life. this usually takes me to some crazy caverns and ravines of my mind..:toilet_claw:
we need to make changes. we have to connect more with out inner voices, with our soul, and learn and think on our own. im struggling to, and i really think i have become a better (for lack of a better word) person because of it.
do you get what im saying?