U.G.U's vertical garden

Sorry for lagging on a update went to vegas for a week. Well I have made a slight modification for some reason the brain bucket worked great for 3 days then all the sudden a flood I tried 3 different brand new pumps and still the same problem for some reason the pump would be on you could feel the vibration of the pump running but it was not actually pumpimg. wierd. So I took a 55 gal drum cut it down to 15 gal. I am doing it gravity feed so unless the world flips upside down I have no fear of a flood. As far as the plants I haven't had a strain like this before they are at 20 days and already at 1450 ppm my other strain is 20 days into flower and I am at 600 ppm with slight leaf curl so I don't know if it cause the plant is receiving more light or if it just the strain but its an eater. I expect to be at 2000 ppm in no time.

All I can say is wow! What strain are you using?

Thanks Chrissy the strain is a clone only type of mango a cross of jeti also clone only and cristal.

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I can't believe I am the last one at this party

UGU... you never STOP amazing ME...

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Whats up knowm thanks for stopping by

Great work man, that's a very innovative garden and an awesome use of space.

You obviously know what you are doing, but I might suggest covering the open front wall (behind the lights) with mylar or panda if you can manage the heat. I found a big difference in lumens/growth when I went from 3 reflective sides to 4. I'm sure you've considered this though, and heat might prohibit it. In the last pic in post #21, you can see the bulb's element from behind the "open" wall, which means light is being wasted.

Again, great work and I'll be keeping up with this.

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UGU, off topic a little bit but lemme ask you this question about Promalin. HAve you done experiments with how early you apply. I'm at day 10 and gonna try at different days, maybe like 10-12-14, see which one does the best, you've tried this? Any advice, sorry to hijack your thread w/this pic...but i've seen your results and would like some direction.

oh U.G.U. i was seeing your PPMs, I am sitting at 1650 or so now (10 days in), I plan to go up and over 2000 with no negative effects. What is the highest youve had your PPMs? I see everyone talking about 600-1200 and here i am wondering about >2000. Can the plants eat that much?. keep in mind im using promix (soilless). Im using the entire line of FF nutes liquid and solubles. 1KHPS. And actually., i just sprayed 3 of the plants with some promalin, so we'll see how that goes.

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oh U.G.U. i was seeing your PPMs, I am sitting at 1650 or so now (10 days in), I plan to go up and over 2000 with no negative effects. What is the highest youve had your PPMs? I see everyone talking about 600-1200 and here i am wondering about >2000. Can the plants eat that much?. keep in mind im using promix (soilless). Im using the entire line of FF nutes liquid and solubles. 1KHPS. And actually., i just sprayed 3 of the plants with some promalin, so we'll see how that goes.

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Why you shouldn't pack on the nutes

500 ppm is workable but on the low side
1000ppm is average
1500ppm is definately saline(salt)
2000ppm is high

More isn't always better. your nutes hold a charge that attracts water molecules. The right balance allows for nute uptake and water uptake, but when there are excess nutes or too many for the plant to absorb the plant has to work really hard and compete with the nutes to break off the water molecule. This is because the salts creat a high osmotic pressure and the only way to relieve this pressure it to dilute itself with water. That's why we are so thristy after eating salty food it literally draws misture from us.

Since all nutrients are salts the more nutrients that are in the plant water, the more salts will try and steal water away from the roots. As a result the nutrient value available to the plant changes as salinity(saltiness) raises. As well the nutes themselves compete each other for water, making the roots use more energy to get what they need. The more energy roots use on finding water, the less they have to use on actually production.

Personally IMHO I would recommend going no higher than 1500ppm

See, i wonder about that 1500. If i follow FF feeding schedule, the PPMs are already over 1500, so how does that work?