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well, i agree with you when you say: NO SYMPATHY HERE...Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
glad you see my point, and i do think he was overacting... but AMERICANS have learned individualism-- the foundation of us WHINING ABOUT THE SMALLEST THINGS POSSIBLE MAKING THEM UBER IMPORTANT WHILE THEIR PROBLEM REALLY MEANS SHIT IN A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE...
well, good day bluecat!!
SHUT UP SPOILED BRATQuote:
Originally Posted by Great Spirit
Whew I had to count to ten and take a break before responding to you Swirlymass of ignorance. I have to take Breukelen's advice and consider the source. here as well. 1st I really don't give a damn where this thread goes. I will comment as I see fit.
Secondly, yes my son joined, so what. He had 2 friends die in the war. He was working as a surgery technologist and against all advice from me he wanted to help. I wanting him to continue school. I wanted him to go on to medical school but like many Americans he felt helpless and needed to feel he was doing something. Unlike so many spoiled rotten lazy whining little brats that can't seem to find anything contructive to do but bitch about what daddy didn't buy them and how much they hate their moms.
Would you prefer it if he had been drafted? You are damn lucky there are young people out there with strong moral character enough to join. Imagine what this country would look like if during WW1 or WW2 no one had joined. You probably would not be here today. Also the reasons so many young people joined is because they were made to believe their country needed protecting. They were lied to and many of them see that now.
Next this comment: Unless im wrong and he's just a doctor in a war zone.
Yes you are wrong, my son is a trauma surgery specialist and medic.
that said there are no JUST doctors. What the hell does that mean Just a doctor in a war zone?! I honestly don't know what to say to a comment that is so out of touch with reality.
you said:sorry i hate war and the people involved in it.
Well sweety I hate war too but to say you HATE those involved to take it out on the soldiers that are there is just plan stupid and that type of statement makes it really hard for those of us who really speak out against the war. So do us all a favor and STFU.
Bluecat
Shut up you cow, you can't assume that this war is ANYTHING LIKE WW1 or 2. Is the country threatened by communism? Are nazi's killing millions of people for fun? No some "afgani's" flew some planes into some buildings (supposedly) and now we have invaded iraq, which has absolutly no connection to the 9/11 "attacks".
"Next this comment: Unless im wrong and he's just a doctor in a war zone.
Yes you are wrong, my son is a trauma surgery specialist and medic.
that said there are no JUST doctors. What the hell does that mean Just a doctor in a war zone?! I honestly don't know what to say to a comment that is so out of touch with reality."
this is a part that kills me, and shows me you just read things once and let the diarrhea flow from your mouth. i was just trying to clarify whether he was enlisted in a us government organization like the army. or if he was just some doctor in a war zone, because you didn't state anything that could inform anyone what the hell you were talking about.
sorry i am so volatile, but i didnt start this i simply gave my opinion on a situation not even directly related to your little bleeding heart post. and then you felt like calling me things.
I'm pretty fucking glad i have enough "moral fiber" to stand up for what I believe in. Simply saying, like you very clearly did just now, that you are without justified morals simply because you dont follow propaganda and run off to grab a gun when someone says "they" want to hurt you and "they" stand for everything we dont just goes to show everyone how narrow minded you are.
finally. get a brain.
Sorry to drag this on even further so i'll be short.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
What is war? War is a concept. An ideological reference to a series of events and motivations.
The physical representation of war? People who want to fight or who do fight or who are fighting.
Guess what soldiers are part of. War.
The end.
(I don't think all soldiers are bad, I know several people who have done tours in Iraq and all of them say stuff like "This isn't what we came here for anymore".) I would probably liken "The war on terror" to our "confrontation" with Vietnam.
Just for clarificaton, the was a draft in World War II. 66% of the Armed Forces were draftees.
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
Just for clarificaton, 66% of the Armed Forces in WWII were draftees. WWI also had a draft, as did the Civil War.
shut up swirlymass, you just restated what bluecat said.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwirlyMass
but my point still stands! soldiers are just the pawns for corrupt idiots like rumsfeld.
so i don't like soldiers because of their "lets grab a gun and kill somebody" attitude. I've seen it over and over again in my former friends and people my age. people who enlist are
usually pretty brainless, the ones that are normal get put into intelligence positions. if you can be bossed around 24/7 and are just aching to give up all free will you ever had then go run and join the marines. they even give you dumb brutes a gun WOOOHEEE
its like children at school, one kid beats up another kid because some girl told the bully that the kid was doing something she knows the bully will dislike.
when i saw the title i thought, "what happened?"
then i read the first sentence and thought it was a foreshadow about your grandparent/s death.
then i read the rest of it and thought, "oh, hes just complaining about not being able to smoke"
And somehow, even without meaning to, GS managed to stir up controversy even without being present in the subsequent thread discussion. And because it took a political turn, I've moved it to politics, where, if it must, it can stay alive.
SwirlyMass, your insults above would have caused this thread to be deleted from the other area of the forum, and frankly to an objective reader, you seem to have come into this disucssion with a chip on your shoulder. BlueCat didn't complain about anything when she initially posted. She was simply putting GS's whining complaints into perspective. You're the one who actually switched the topic to politics. My impression is that you need to watch your step, and if you feel so deeply offended by the war, you probably need to start threads here in politics rather than coming in and setting off the cycle that ends with flaming people who respond in reasonable fashion to other topics.