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Originally Posted by Blazed and Confused
the neocons here, like bong and the others, would make a commie blush.
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shoot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazed and Confused
the neocons here, like bong and the others, would make a commie blush.
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ANOTHER REASON, LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER.
come on bong there was no imminent threat to the US from iraq. you know this. where are the wmds, ...anyone?...nope, no wmds. that was about the time they started calling the war "operation iraqi freedom"..complete bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
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Remeber with rights come responsibilty, and freedom has costs....
Then it is time for the american people to do it them selves
i agree with that, but saddam hussein isnt the one trying to undermine the freedoms of americans, and neither is ahmadinejad. that threat comes from within. why should we fight overseas while our homeland is under attack from within. if we allow our freedoms to be taken away, one by one, then the terrorists have already won, and theres nothing left worth fighting for. what makes america great is the right of the people to speak out against the government, against tyranny, against unjust wars. i only hope that freedom loving americans will stand up for their God given rights and continue to make america and the world better place to live.
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Originally Posted by darkside
what about these weapons?
Chemical Weapons
Iranian soldiers with gas masks posing in front of a sign reading: "Hey brother, smile".According to Iraq's report to the UN, the know-how and material for developing chemical weapons were obtained from firms in such countries as: the United States, West Germany, the United Kingdom, France and the People's Republic of China.[35]
In December 2002, Iraq's 1,200 page Weapons Declaration revealed a list of Eastern and Western corporations and countries, as well as individuals, that exported a total of 17,602 tons of chemical precursors to Iraq in the past two decades. By far, the largest suppliers of precursors for chemical weapons production were in Singapore (4,515 tons), the Netherlands (4,261 tons), Egypt (2,400 tons), India (2,343 tons), and Federal Republic of Germany (1,027 tons). One Indian company, Exomet Plastics (now part of EPC Industrie) sent 2,292 tons of precursor chemicals to Iraq. The Kim Al-Khaleej firm, located in Singapore and affiliated to United Arab Emirates, supplied more than 4,500 tons of VX, sarin, and mustard gas precursors and production equipment to Iraq.[36]
According to the Washington Post, the CIA began in 1984 secretly to give Iraq intelligence that Iraq used to "calibrate" its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. In August, the CIA establishes a direct Washington-Baghdad intelligence link, and for 18 months, starting in early 1985, the CIA provided Iraq with "data from sensitive U.S. satellite reconnaissance photography...to assist Iraqi bombing raids." The Postâ??s source said that this data was essential to Iraqâ??s war effort.[37]
^^ we knew they had it cause we gave it to them..DUHHHHHHHHH^^^
In May of 2003, an extended list of international companies involvements in Iraq was provided by The Independent (UK).[38] Official Howard Teicher and Radley Gayle, stated that Bell helicopters that were given to Iraq by U.S. later were used to spray chemical weapons.[39]
Iraq's Chemical weapons program was mainly assisted by German companies such as Karl Kobe, which built a chemical weapons facility disguised as a pesticide plant. Iraqâ??s foreign contractors, including Karl Kolb with Massar for reinforcement, built five large research laboratories, an administrative building, eight large underground bunkers for the storage of chemical munitions, and the first production buildings. 150 tons of mustard were produced in 1983. About 60 tons of Tabun were produced in 1984. Pilot-scale production of Sarin began in 1984.[40] Germany also supplied reactors, heat exchangers, condensors and vessels. France, Austria, Canada, and Spain provided similar equipment.[41]
The Al Haddad trading company of Tennessee delivered 60 tons of DMMP, a chemical used to make sarin, a nerve gas implicated in so-called Gulf War Syndrome. The Al Haddad trading company appears to have been an Iraqi front company. The firm was owned by Sahib Abd al-Amir al-Haddad, an Iraqi-born, naturalized American citizen. Recent stories in The New York Times and The Tennessean reported that al-Haddad was arrested in Bulgaria in November 2002 while trying to arrange an arms sale to Iraq. Al-Haddad was charged with conspiring to purchase equipment for the manufacture of a giant Iraqi cannon. In 1984, U.S. Customs at New York's Kennedy Airport stop an order addressed to the Iraqi State Enterprise for Pesticide Production for 74 drums of potassium fluoride, a chemical used in the production of Sarin. The order was places by Al-Haddad Enterprises Incorporates, owned by an individual named Sahib al-Haddad. [6]
The U.S. firm Alcolac International supplied one mustard-gas precursor, thiodiglycol, to both Iraq and Iran in violation of U.S. export laws for which it was forced to pay a fine in 1989. Overall between 300-400 tons were sent to Iraq.[7] [8] [9][10]
Biological
Iraq did not use biological weapons in the war, but built up its capability during that time.
On 25 May 1994, The U.S. Senate Banking Committee released a report in which it was stated that pathogenic (meaning disease producing), toxigenic (meaning poisonous) and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq, pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce. It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."[42] The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Anthrax Bacillus) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding that "these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."[43]
A report by Berlin's Die Tageszeitung in 2002 reported that Iraq's 11,000-page report to the UN Security Council listed 150 foreign companies that supported Saddam Hussein's WMD program. Twenty-four U.S. firms were involved in exporting arms and materials to Baghdad[44] Donald Riegle, Chairman of the Senate committee that made the report, said, "UN inspectors had identified many United States manufactured items that had been exported from the United States to Iraq under licenses issued by the Department of Commerce, and [established] that these items were used to further Iraq's chemical and nuclear weapons development and its missile delivery system development programs." He added, "the executive branch of our government approved 771 different export licenses for sale of dual-use technology to Iraq. I think that is a devastating record."
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control sent Iraq 14 agents "with biological warfare significance," including West Nile virus, according to Riegle's investigators.[45]
Did you learn any thing? we knew they had then cause we gave them to them?????? Duhhhhhh
Maybe he got them out while Hans "blind as a church mouse" blick was there looking.....Hummmmmmm?
hmm...so what youre saying is we gave them wmds to use against iran, but yet you condemn them for using them and use that as grounds for waging war against them? its funny how the totalitarian regimes and terrorists that the government supports come back and bite us in the ass. you would think they would learn by now not to give weapons to radicals.