ok so you have enough lumes, maybe its just your strain man
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ok so you have enough lumes, maybe its just your strain man
That plant that started taking off, is sort of stationary right now. I hope it's gathering steam for a big 'ol break-out. The other plant is looking pretty sickly. It might have a root rot. If so, it's probably a goner. And I think I overestimated my lumens. It's more like 1600 per bulb, and 6 bulbs making that 1600 x 6 = 9600. Those bulbs I'm using now are cools. I have some
42W warms (4 bulbs) and some 42W softs (4 bulbs there too because the main fixture in the cab is a 4 bulb fixture, and I fucked up buying them softs, but I use 'em around the house anyway). Still I don't think adding any of those other bulbs in the cab would help vegging because they're the wrong temps, or would it?. So maybe the weakass lighting is part of the problem. Combined with soil like clay, pots that don't drain, and a grower whose an idiot, the little dudesses are getting the short end. Poor babies:(
the more light the better man. i read somewhere that the BARE MINIMUM of light you can have is 2000-3000 lumens per square foot. try transplanting into a different soil too. i did this because my plant was very stunted and in the last week its really began to take off. also try adding 2 cool and 1 warm, and putting a plate underneath your pots rather than a plastic bag. also let the soil get really dry the next few times before you water. the bigger the roots, the bigger the plant. good luck
I already ditched those bags along with those dip-ass bottoms that came with those pots, and the pots are over plates now. Great minds think alike I guess. I have a small cab, only 13'X 27" and 33" high, so it might make that lumen threshold now, but I'm gonna add one of those 42W warms with 2 cools for each plant, like you mentioned, and dry those babies out for 5-6 days, at least. I was thinking along those lines too. They've gone two days now since last water and few more might be just what the doctor ordered. I know I'm being supid not wanting to repot right now into different soil, but they were already repotted once and the prodcedure was kinda tedious, and I am a lazy sumbitch. I figure I can wait a week, and do that other stuff now and see if I get results. For that one plant with possible root rot it won't matter much, so anyway we're talking probably only repotting the one other. So we'll wait a week, I guess. Thanks for the suggestions.
David, first off how are you? Hope all is well.
Re: The plants - it seriously looks like some sort of nutrient lock or something, flush then re-pot.
Here's how I start mine. (I'm not saying there is a right or wrong way but this is what works for me).
For four plants and a medium yeild.
Soak and germinate seeds as usual (paper towel method).
The pots you have are fine.
I then get 3-4 cheap growbags, cut them all open in the bath and thoroughly mix in about 20-30% pearlite, that's it - no water no nutes, nothing (there's enough nutes in the grow bag crap to keep 'em going for a while).
Put about 2" of small stones (about ½-1" in diameter) in the bottom of the pots which have holes drilled all over the bottom. Fill with the mix DON'T PACK DOWN - put the mix in lightly (sprinkle it in with your hands).
Then seeds into pots (you know the lighting requirements).
DON'T WATER right away!
That's it - and don't feed at all for the first three to four weeks.
You want a plant looking like this after 2-3 weeks (see the soil).
Glad to see you're still around!
Hall
Good to hear from you Hall. Good advise. Nice little lady you got in that pic too. If this current thing, I'm trying, doesn't work out, I'm thinking flush and repot like you say. I was thinking that lock-out thing too, so I may well be going that flush route.But what I can't understand about that is, I only nuted them once, a few weeks ago, and I diluted those nutes a lot back then. I wouldn't think once wouldn't be enough to cause this, but I suppose it could. Today(23rd) is actually their 2 mo. birthday. Persnickity little biothes. Biotches I hope, anyway.
I tried drying my plants out for 5 or 6 days, then watered them as usual. No change after a dayor so. So yesterday I repotted into my "Swiss cheese" pots. I washed 'em out good first. Then puts some small rocks in the bottoms. Then I mixed up 45% sphagnum peat moss, 35% perlite, 25% potting soil, a handfull of dolomite, in each pot. I saw thread where a grower reccomended that mix, and it sounded good to me. When I transplanted, I carefully took the root system of each plant and swished it around in a bowl of water with a couple drops of superthrive in it, to kind of clean off the roots. The roots (about 4" each)
looked okay except not as white as I'd like, and a lot of a vertical, with little horizontal growth. These full pots are a lot lighter than my old ones, like half the weight. Then I let the babies settle for a couple hours, then gave them about a half cup of Ph 6.4 (kind of low, I know) RO. If all this works out, I'm planning to nute 'em a little after I see a couple new nodes while watering during a that 3rd day watering cycle, or whatever they like, to get that N up. Should I? I'm thinking too, all this stress might give me boys, or at least hermies, but I'm looking at this all as a learning thing and how to get a grow to flourish. Smokage out of this is a bonus. I also got this bigger oscilllating fan but it doesn't keep the temps in my cab any lower than the small desk job I was using. Afternoons get freaking hot in this here southland, ya'll. I also wanted to mention that your IP address changes every session on a dial up. Dial up is slow and that sucks, but that's a good security thing. When they do get highspeed out to hickvillle here, I plan to get "anonymizer" ($30) or something that hides my IP as I surf. By the way Hall, I've actually never seen those "growbags" anywhere. I guess they must be pretty common though, cause Ive seen 'em discussed a lot. Does Wally World or Lowes or Home Depot caryy those growbags? Garden supply shops are few and far between around here.
Q if you have any extra seeds and can spare a few I'd toss one in each pot because I don't think you're going to see too much action from those things--I kept waiting for mine to "take off" after replanting them and they just never did. They were like little bonsai plants. If you have all that great soil etc why not at least give a few newbies a chance if you can?
Good thought. I do have some other seeds. Maybe I should wait a little to see if anything happens? I was also wondering about pulling the stunted ones eventually so the roots don't get tangled with the "new" ones? That could screw it all up again, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weedhound