GREAT SPIRT... WE MISSED YOU

I gave you the Etamology i know you like that stuff BG.

I had to look it up too....Ole Torog is a smart one.

The word dhimmitude is a neologism, imported from the French language, and derived from the Arabic language word dhimmi. The term has at least two distinct but related meanings describing a certain position of a non-Muslim in relation to the Islamic world — notably it is a characterization of non-Muslims as submitting to Muslim authority or intimidation. Bernard Lewis, Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, states that the story of "dhimmitude", of subservience and persecution and ill treatment is one of the two well-established myths available in the literature about the position of Jews in the Islamic world and that, like many myths, it contains significant elements of truth. [1]

Today the term dhimmitude is often used to allude to the conduct of non-muslims who submit to the terms of the dhimmi by ceding their own or their subject's individual rights such as free speech to placate Islamic pressure groups.

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1 Etymology
2 Associations and usage
3 References
4 See also



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Etymology
Dhimmi (also zimmi, Arabic ذمي, often translated as "protected") is the legal status of a free non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia — Islamic law. The word dhimmi is an adjective (but used like a noun in English). It is derived from the noun dhimma, which means "pact of liability", and denotes the legal relationship between non-Muslim subjects and the Islamic state. "Dhimmitude" adds the productive suffix "-tude" to the adjective dhimmi, thus creating a new noun with a meaning (arguably) distinct from dhimma.

The term entered English-language use after the 1996 publication of the book "The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam. From Jihad to Dhimmitude. Seventh-Twentieth Century"[2] and the 2003 followup "Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide"[3] by Bat Ye'or. She is widely thought to have invented the word[4], though some [5] think she borrowed it from the assassinated Lebanese Maronite leader Bashir Gemayel.

Friends, stoners, countrymen, lend me your ears..........this is turning into a flame fest. Everybody return to your corners, toke up a fatty and come out smiling.:D

The Chester comment isn't cool.......crossing lines in a major way. Just a verbal dude. There's alot more appropriate insults we could use in here.......if it's really needed in the first place. LOL

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

P.S. Great Spirit.........leave the NSA thing alone........PLEASE!!!! You were asked a question and I can't bust your ass for answering but make damn sure this is the LAST time if you are so compelled to do so. Thank you for your cooperation and welcome back "son". LMAO!!!

Thanks for the etymology. I enjoyed that and am always happy to learn a new word! Thanks to both you and Torog for that!

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

Hey, Torog! Yeah, we did indeed get one of those battery-backup surge protectors! It's plugged in and on standby right now, too! Thanks for the idea. Two mornings ago when we had thunderstorms here, I thought about it and was glad you'd suggested it.

Torog, what's dhimmitude? I don't know that word.

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Howdy birdgirl,

That's great news that y'all got one,not only do they protect you from surges and allow ya time to close out yer programs,but they also filter out electronic noise,which is harmful to motherboards and stuff like that. :)

Dhimmitude,is the arab word for slavery(subjugation),for those who refuse to convert to Islam,they have the option,if their lucky,to pay a tax,called the jizya,so that they won't be slaughtered and they will be suffered to live,but as social outcasts and up to slavery. You should look it up,on Google or Wikipedia,heck..maybe I should too,just to be sure of what it is that I'm saying.

Have a good one ! :)

Howdy Bong30 !

Wow ! Thanx for posting that - it was interesting to read and I guess that I was right,after all ...lol.

Now then--will will be able to git GS and that there Ron feller,to read it,understand it and give us their honest opinions on it ?

Psycho4Bud: Dang..I apologize..I didn't mean to bring up what got GS in trouble before,I reckon that's the second knee-jerk reaction that I had today..sorry about that.:o

I really do just want to discuss how we feel about the issues and not git into any mud-slingin.

Have a good one !

I am glad Great Spirit is back.....I can just picture him sitting there in his compound wearing his tinfoil hat.....man even for a liberal your crazier than a shit house rat. I mean no offense by that. great spirit your an interesting dude. I look forward to reading your threads. that last one about 9-11-01 switching those dates to link it to the plane crash was hilarious but a bit of a stretch. my grandfather retired from the NSA...are ya scared.

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Originally Posted by Torog

BA Until you become a good and responsible father of children,there will always be a missing component to yer out-look on life in general,as well as yer level of maturity. Also,I was wondering if you'd comment to my reply to the thread in the lounge,talking about "Bodies lieing on the street"..thanx in advance. Have a good one !

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Well, if you stopped for all of the people lying in the streets, you'd have to stop working. That's just the way it is. I've seen (and experienced) enough tragedy in my day for 10 lifetimes, and I wouldn't begrudge someone that's down on their luck a break, but it's not my fault that many of these people are on the drunk, or drugged out on bad stuff, the majority of the time.

The world is made up of people that have parents and they've screwed up - big time. I don't buy your "missing component" theory at all. The childfree pay enough money in taxes for schools, health care, etc. for other people's children and we don't need to be told that we are incomplete. If having babies meant something in the realm of intelligence, cockroaches are the smartest creatures in the world. :dance:

P.S. I'm in Washingon DC right on vacation, in a "good" area, and I've seen far more homeless people than I see in New York City every day.

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I am glad Great Spirit is back.....I can just picture him sitting there in his compound wearing his tinfoil hat.....man even for a liberal your crazier than a shit house rat. I mean no offense by that. great spirit your an interesting dude. I look forward to reading your threads. that last one about 9-11-01 switching those dates to link it to the plane crash was hilarious but a bit of a stretch. my grandfather retired from the NSA...are ya scared.

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No.....not scared yet.

I consider myself an intellectual terrorist because I like to go after the oppressive Establishment with words. Never anything associated with violence.

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

I consider myself an intellectual terrorist because I like to go after the oppressive Establishment with words.

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Consider guns, you'd be more effective.

"Never anything associated with violence" makes me laugh coming out of Great Spirit's keyboard. He went on his enforced vacation 31 days ago as a raving, barking lunatic, threatening the wrath of the world and the "Elite" and the on all those of us who refused to believe his second-hand Alex Jones predictions.

Now he returns, still a raving, barking lunatic. Promising dirty bombs. Staged terror attacks. Prison camps. And adding yet another delusional and contradictory component, too: a Deepak Chopra-modeled non-violence attitude, at least in this thread. The Chopra tone might be enjoyable simply because it's refreshing. Except that he assured us in the "O'Reilly" and "American Prison Camps" threads he intends to hang himself.

You say you're on a higher plane of truth, GS. But those of us who read your ravings here know the real problem is that you're deeply, truly, abidingly and certifiably nuts. It frightens me how much I want to ask if I can mail you a lovely length of rope. . . 12 feet, perhaps? Maybe about 22mm? In a nice European hemp?