Philosophy of GOD

If I told you that someone pulled a gun on me recently and you asked me to prove that it happened. Since I had no proof to provide and you didn't believe the stickup took place, I would think it's fair to say that you're indirectly calling me a liar. If God says that he created the heaven and the earth, and you say nay, there's no way around avoiding that you are calling him a liar. But then again, is it possible to call someone a liar if you don't even believe he exists? I guess your belief is the lie itself.

Science or no science. The point is that you don't belive the testimony of all these different men. They all preach the same God.

For those of you that are confident that evolution took place, I'm curious to learn your view of how man and female came about? How does evolution play a role in my wife breast feeding my 6 week old daughter right now? Another thing I don't understand about revolution is that I heard someone on here say it only applies to man. Then why hasn't man evolved? Is there actual proof that man was something other than man? I'm just trying to understand your beliefs?

And by the way, the Word of God is not a "theory" like the big bang. There is actual proof of the writings. What proof is there that the big bang took place? I guess none since it's called the big bang "theory".

One more thing, the big bang theory does not contradict the Word of God. The big bang theory took place in the first chapter of Genesis. Man just doesn't tie that the big bang was a result of his word.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

Another thing I don't understand about revolution is that I heard someone on here say it only applies to man. Then why hasn't man evolved? Is there actual proof that man was something other than man? I'm just trying to understand your beliefs?

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evolution takes very long amounts of time. it is happening. the average height of man has gone up (i think) about 4 or 5 inches since the 400s. maybe we are evolving, but havent evolved enough to really notice it yet.

Im sure steven hawkins would have something to say in here. I dont belive in god, i went to catholic school for 12 years. I belived for some time that there was a god bing agnostic. However Im an universe man. I cant belive something that happend 2000 years ago and before. Its to my understanding that if there was a god he would be very much part of our lives. Not going to church every week. thats just going to see the same stupid ppl who just belive it becuase they have there whole lives. All we need to belive in is values and morals. with that if there were a god i think he would understand. I understand the whole beliving in god and not seeing. but there hast been anythng in 2000 years to help us understand god. the bible/torah yeah they tell us how it was. but how is it now?

We need to stop thinging about where everything came from and realize that we are now, and now should be all we can make it. God is just an excuse for misfortunate ppl to have "something". Or they just do it and cant back themselves up. No one i have ever spoken to has ever given me a real reason to belive in god yet they do. My 12th grade Theology teacher never tried to make you belive just to understand that we are human and need to treat eachother with decency.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

If I told you that someone pulled a gun on me recently and you asked me to prove that it happened. Since I had no proof to provide and you didn't believe the stickup took place, I would think it's fair to say that you're indirectly calling me a liar. If God says that he created the heaven and the earth, and you say nay, there's no way around avoiding that you are calling him a liar. But then again, is it possible to call someone a liar if you don't even believe he exists? I guess your belief is the lie itself.

Science or no science. The point is that you don't belive the testimony of all these different men. They all preach the same God.

For those of you that are confident that evolution took place, I'm curious to learn your view of how man and female came about? How does evolution play a role in my wife breast feeding my 6 week old daughter right now? Another thing I don't understand about revolution is that I heard someone on here say it only applies to man. Then why hasn't man evolved? Is there actual proof that man was something other than man? I'm just trying to understand your beliefs?

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If someone pointed a gun to your head, I assume you would call the police. If you notified the police, they would fill out a report. You would than be able to pick up that report from the police station resulting in solid proof your were held up. Lets face it, if you don't call the cops after something like that, your a dumbass.

Your analogy sucks.

I'm not saying god lies, I'm saying he most likely doesn't exist. I'm not saying the bible lies, it is simply a work of FICTION.


Your evolution comment has already been covered in another thread as well as this one, so I will not bother to respond.

man, that didn't last long at all. I see people are back to flogging the tired nags of religion. Dogma and doctrine. Self assured ignorance arguing with self assured ignorance...

Spirituality without religion? Couldn't this conversation take place without people arguing about christian doctrine issues? Does the fact that the bible is a collection of stories say anything pro or con about the existence of god? "God" has meant so many things through history and within different cultures, why is the collective definition here on these boards so limited?

"If someone pointed a gun to your head, I assume you would call the police. If you notified the police, they would fill out a report. You would than be able to pick up that report from the police station resulting in solid proof your were held up. Lets face it, if you don't call the cops after something like that, your a dumbass."


It did happen to me recently, and I DID NOT go to the PO-PO. My nephew got his front teeth knocked out and his health was my only concern. I brought him to my house and took care of him and let him sleep at my place so his mom wouldn't lecture him while he was in pain. My sister did say that they did follow up and make a report the following day.

Since you're a smart ass, why would a police report prove it happened? Because we told them it happened? What if you don't believe the report like like you don't believe the scriptures? It's comical to me that you would instantly believe any other man except the men that wrote the Word of God. It's obvious that you guys automatically disregard the Word cause it's the Word not cause you have any facts that prove it wrong.

Are you guys any less confident than I am in your beliefs? If you are, you should keep seeking until you find the TRUTH.

I would first like to ask that everyone try not to use charged language, like arrogant, as the point here isnâ??t to offend each other.

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Originally Posted by Pass That Shit

If I told you that someone pulled a gun on me recently and you asked me to prove that it happened.God says that he created the heaven and the earth, and you say nay, there's no way around avoiding that you are calling him a liar.is it possible to call someone a liar if you don't even believe he exists? I guess your belief is the lie itself.

For those of you that are confident that evolution took place, I'm curious to learn your view of how man and female came about? How does evolution play a role in my wife breast feeding my 6 week old daughter right now? Another thing I don't understand about revolution is that I heard someone on here say it only applies to man. Then why hasn't man evolved? Is there actual proof that man was something other than man? I'm just trying to understand your beliefs?

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To clear a few things up. Evolution does not negate the possibility of god creating the universe, neither does the big bang theory. They are only inconsistent if one believe that God literally made man how he is today, and created the world exactly how it is today.

I would like to expand on a really important misconception.

How would you define a theory? Think then go on

Most people would probably define it as an educated guess and this is why there is so much confusion about evolution. A theory IS an interrelated set of concepts that is used to explain a body of data and to make predictions about the results of future experiments.

Yes we have all heard the argument put forth â??After all, evolution is only a theoryâ?� which they usually mean as â??only a guessâ?�. The thing is the Theory of Evolution is NOT a theory in the laypersons sense; to the contrary it would be called a fact (Randall, 2005). It is only a theory in the scientific sense and different theories are definitely not equals. When we say the gravity is a theory (it is) we do not mean that we are pretty sure things fall. Just as with evolution we are not theorizing as to what happened, this is well documented by fossil records etc, we are theorizing as to WHY it happened.

Pass that Shit, I can certainly respect your desire to understand my beliefs, as this is only what I a attempting to do. :rasta: