Yeehaaww!!! Just Got Back From Voting !

Torog, I agree with you that the US needs to do what we can to spread Democracy BUT don't you feel that the real target should have been more seriously drawn on Bin Laden first? According to Kerry in the first debate, there were 75 other countries AHEAD of Iraq on the list of the most dangerous to America. Yes, the Iraqis were living in hell under Saddam's rule but what about the ppl living under Communist rule, like Cuba or China? Is the US supposed to take up arms against any country that treats their citizens unfairly? I don't think it is our responsiblilty to police the world in that way. Our troops should defend our country if need be but they shouldn't have to put their lives on the line unless our freedom is at stake.


I know this may sound harsh coming from a "bleeding heart Liberal". I'm glad that I live in the US and I understand how lucky I am but unless there is a threat to us, our armed forces in Iraq should be finding Bin Laden and the rest of those murderers. I know we have special agents looking in Afganistan (a local father of 3 was just shot in the back of the head there in Febraury) but we need more!

Hey Torog
Thanks for responding. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure ya will LOl, I'm just trying to see it from your point of view. From your opinion on Iraq and north korea, you seem to believe force is the only option. is this correct? Not that i'm saying it is a bad thing, protecting liberty and freedom are noble ideals. But are they noble at the expense of 1 innocent person? Even the loss of 1 liberty here is a great injustice to us all. Isn't it ironic. You must agree on that.
peace
best to you and yours
heart

you see, torog is a neocon. he says he's conservative, and he shows it by voting for a radical socialist puppet, who out clintons clinton as far as the size of government and spending of government and open borders and amnesty for all and gun control and the FTAA and the department of education and a host of other issues that brand bush as more of a radical leftist socialist/commie than a conservative. he's a million times more socialist than republican.

he doesn't vote based on the person's actions, he votes on whether or not they construct sentences that sound conservative and whether or not the person has an R or a D next to their name.

bush and clinton, same actions, different rhetoric. the same policies domestically always move forward, no matter what "party" is in office. that's why nothing ever changes, you'd think by now people would have figured this out. republicans don't change anything when they get into office, they continue the same policies the previous puppet oversaw. it's about creating a worldwide unified dictatorship, feudal mercantile techno-society where we're all tracked and traced and taxed and monitored and chipped, so loving.

torog thinks he's supporting the country, when in reality, he's supporting the death and usurpation of it. he wants the good old days of empires past back, he's begging for his enslavement.

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Originally Posted by pisshead

you see, torog is a neocon. he says he's conservative, and he shows it by voting for a radical socialist puppet, who out clintons clinton as far as the size of government and spending of government and open borders and amnesty for all and gun control and the FTAA and the department of education and a host of other issues that brand bush as more of a radical leftist socialist/commie than a conservative. he's a million times more socialist than republican.

he doesn't vote based on the person's actions, he votes on whether or not they construct sentences that sound conservative and whether or not the person has an R or a D next to their name.

bush and clinton, same actions, different rhetoric. the same policies domestically always move forward, no matter what "party" is in office. that's why nothing ever changes, you'd think by now people would have figured this out. republicans don't change anything when they get into office, they continue the same policies the previous puppet oversaw. it's about creating a worldwide unified dictatorship, feudal mercantile techno-society where we're all tracked and traced and taxed and monitored and chipped, so loving.

torog thinks he's supporting the country, when in reality, he's supporting the death and usurpation of it. he wants the good old days of empires past back, he's begging for his enslavement.

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Damn Pisshead, it's true. It is seriously a scary thought. I need to buy an island and start my own country!

How would you like me to prove that Torog you idiot. Im all grown up now and can spot commie pigs like you a mile away. Chicken shit you go fight....wait you have no balls!!!!!!!!!!!

of course you worked for halliburton on drillin rigs.
i should have known.
god im a dumarse.

Torog, aren't you a veteran?

torog i voted for bush to. im a firm beleiver in freedom for all. when u see how and what these people in other countries go thru than u know what im talkin about. ive been there and seen it im a marine

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Hey Torog
Thanks for responding. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure ya will LOl, I'm just trying to see it from your point of view. From your opinion on Iraq and north korea, you seem to believe force is the only option. is this correct? Not that i'm saying it is a bad thing, protecting liberty and freedom are noble ideals. But are they noble at the expense of 1 innocent person? Even the loss of 1 liberty here is a great injustice to us all. Isn't it ironic. You must agree on that.
peace
best to you and yours
heart

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Howdy Hss,

Of course,diplomatic attempts should be made first,it would be great,if North Korea and the rest,followed Libya's lead,and ended their wmd programs and sought to live in peace with the Free World.

It's never a good thing,when a TRULY innocent person,loses their liberty and freedom-but it does happen.

Vaya con Dios....Torog

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How would you like me to prove that Torog you idiot. Im all grown up now and can spot commie pigs like you a mile away. Chicken sh*t you go fight....wait you have no balls!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hmmm...what's your brother's MOS,rank and branch of service ?

I want to go and fight--but I'm disabled and the military won't let me..will you follow in your brother's steps-and do your duty for your country ?

Or are ya just gonna sit at home and throw a hissy fit ?

Do you wake each day ,wondering what your country will do for you..or do you try and figure out what you can do for your country ?