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Was in a similiar situation.
Told my friend he was getting carried away with the coke.
I told him, "If you dont stop your going to kill yourself".
He got agitated at my concern.
By weeks end a State patrol found him dead next to his car with the tire off his car.
He had a heart attack changing a flat tire and died on the side of the road.
28 is too young to have a heart attack.
Later found out from others he had just done an 8 ball of coke.
Greg Hettich. 1988.
That has never been said, the bold and underlined words. I have only told her my concerns and told her I am not mad that shes doing coke, but I think its fucked up at 16 year old just gets up and decides, lets do some coke. How old were you when you first did coke, please dont lie, be truthfull in this situation. I remember a year ago sitting in the classroom with her saying that we would both never do coke,crack,meth,needles, or herion. Although the % of meth in ecstacy, I do not SMOKE meth or do anything with it other then do ecstacy and on rare rare occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by graph
She has taken up e pretty fast and liked it, I dont like to admit to condoning illegal activites but in this case I can tell you exactly how much e she goes threw. Giving that I am the provider of ecstacy she comes to, she has a few others so I dont know what I dont see. Sure you're going to say to take that into consideration when shes does coke "I dont know what I dont see" There's always going to be a conchince(Not a clue to spell it) telling me otherwise. I do not think of people that have done coke once or twice coke heads, sure everyones expieremented but you're all taking me the wrong way, I didnt tell her shes going to have an addiction, I am concerned for what it MAY lead her to in future times as it has many other family members of mine and friends.
Anyways please keep your helpfull comments coming, every perspective is a new way of looking at things.
Hahahah. I'm sorry, I was 16.
Actually, my gears have shifted since she seems to be more of a party-drug girl. I'm sorry, sometimes my mind gets caught a train of thought, and I exclude a few variables. Now, let me tell you what I think.
She's going to do coke whether or not you want her to. You can't change people, they have to change themselves. Of course, you can change the way you perceive people, which may be something you'll have to think about. She's 16, so she'll always hate you for you trying to help her. That's the way they are. Hell, I'm still a little like that.
I still DEFINITELY think you should let her try it, but be with her. If she's going to do it, she should be safe. If she thinks she should continue abusing the substance, then I would feel it is fit for you to step it. Remember, however, that there is a fine line between using and abusing, and when dealing with harder drugs, that line becomes even more transparent. I don't see a problem with her using cocaine once, MAYBE twice a month depending on her general health and income. Any more than that, and you should step in.
REMEMBER, if you see her going down the wrong path, I see no problem in you helping her find the help she needs. In fact, I would have more respect for you if you did so. There are organizations out there, and you might want to start looking into a few. However, you can only help her once she needs it, and by this I mean when you believe that she has been completely taken over by the drug and no longer able to make choices for herself. Until this happens, try your best to keep her safe and keep her head out of trouble, and pray.
Sometimes, people drift apart. If you find you don't like the person she's becoming, then at any point you have the freedom to leave, and no one will think less of you for doing so. Always remember that.
call me cruel but I found it funny..Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon32
onward to my story...
I've been in a similar situation
I've been against drug use my whole life, I too have let a friendship go due to drug use, but that was with pot, and I realized how naive I was and uneducated about the subject, I opened my mind to try pot, and psychedelics but no farther than that, everyone I know don't like harder drugs so there was no pressure... until my best friend decided to try coke
I was hesistant to the idea, I've seen the damage its done to people, I knew not to trust her with doing it in moderation because she abuses everything, she's a heavy drinker, always stoned off her ass, and soberiety doesn't exist in her vocabulary (mind you I have no problem with being stoned all the time, but just have priorities and handle your buisness, she has a kid, which I have heard from her roomate that she spends money on dimebags instead of diapers)...
Anywho, I just expressed my concern to her about coke, and tried to explain that if your gonna do it once in a while, then fine, I'm cool with that, just don't over do it
Well she winds up getting addicted (who didn't see that one coming)
She totally blew me off all the time to go snort, I said fuck it I'm done with the bullshit. so I cut her out of my life, apparently coke was more important than a 13 year friendship
well after about 6 months she calls me out of the blue saying she quit, I heard a difference in her voice, which made me happy, she told me that she felt guilty about pushing me out of her life, and that she cared about our friendship enough to quit
It doesn't always turn out that way, but people do realize that you care and may give another look into their own lives and choices they are making
Alright so I just cannot get my mind wrapped up on this coke subject. This girl is my ex girlfriend and the only one I have stayed friends with. She also has an addictive personality, I do not want to see her go down that road is what Im saying but if there's nothing I can do to stop it then let it happen I guess. I just hating standing here letting this kind of stuff happen and take the best of people. One of my other good good friends turned to coke when she was 16 because she up'd and wanted to give it a try. Now she also has an addictive personality with the ecstacy(I know aswell) and she ended up going down the wrong road with coke and e. She would go out and take 15-20 hits of e to get high and then she would reach her peak high and need some coke to bring her down, this alone carried an addiction. One of my older buddies whos a guy got heavily addicted. His parents sent him to rehab across the country, he came back and he's still using drugs, smoking, and drinking.
I just dont want the same to happen to this girl, but if she must see what it does to you then let it be. Im not sure if I should stand on the other side waiting to recieve her call saying shes addicted and needs to borrow some cash to get outta debt. This happend with the ecstacy I ended up paying my self only because I am a good loyal friend who actually gives 2 shits about my friends, but I dont think they do about me...
If she's going to get addicted, she'll get addicted. She makes the choice to put the coke up her nose (or smoke it). I know you don't want to watch a descent into addiction, but if it happens, that's her choice. You probably just need to look in another direction.
Remember you heard this here first. Don't loan or give her any money if things shake out like you're worried they will. You won't ever see it again, and then you'll be mad both because of the I-told-you-so addiction factor and the fact she took your money.
Is there a way you could get a healthy girlfriend to take your mind off this situation? Then at least when you and the healthy one break up later and she starts yanking your chain, you'll be being yanked by someone who's healthier than this chick???
Sometimes people just grow apart. You'll go crazy trying to blame yourself, but everything usually winds up for the better.
woulda a fool
are you planning on having kids and marrying her
if you are your a fool
if not then get an 8 ball or two
sniff it up [over time]
then fuck till you come down
but thats just what id do
stop being a pussy
nobody gets hooked that quick
its like saying your addicted to orgasms
feels good but cmon
Hell, let her try it. Doesn't have much affect on some people, at least in snorted form. (Injected crack is a different story.) All snorting coke ever did for me was ruin my $8 beer buzz, and that was a hundred bucks of coke. So for $108 I was...sober. What a deal. Didn't take me long to figure out it wasn't a good value proposition.
if she's going to do it regardless, then at least be there to make sure she's safe. don't judge people because of the drugs they do because everyone's different with every drug.