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hey penguin its the chance we take :D
Well if you all are willing to take the chance, then don't complain when you get caught. School's are strict enough, I personally think it is a stupid idea for you kids to risk being expelled for getting high.Quote:
Originally Posted by wardrobe grower 78
Got it in one man.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
Personal responsibility is a big issue for me , after spending time in one of her majestys lovely homes for wayward people (prison) I came to the conclusion that more than half of the sods in there refused to accept that it was thier actions that got them locked down in the first place..
But kids are naturaly dumb and to be honest pot certainly doesn't help you think clearly, stupid mistakes are a learning process.
Get used to people who believe what you are doing is wasting your life (they are entitled to think what they want), get used to getting shit if you break the law, get used to dealing with your own crap and accepting that it's often if not always your responsibility to accept the consequences of your actions.
[QUOTE=sawleaf]Well if you all are willing to take the chance, then don't complain when you get caught. School's are strict enough, I personally think it is a stupid idea for you kids to risk being expelled for getting high.[/QUOT
hey sawleaf id just like to say that i left school 10 years ago. i aint a kid!
[QUOTE=wardrobe grower 78]Oh no worries then. But for the kids in school. It is not worth getting expelled for something as stupid as having cannabis on you. Smoke when you get home, but don't take your bud to school. Yeah we all know how stupid cannabis laws are, but it is still illegal for now. You may get away with it for a while or you may not even get caught, but you never know the future. Why take that chance of getting caught? Keep your bud safe at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
Forgive the book here. This thread hits close to home. Skip it if you want, but thanks for listening.
Times they are a changing.
I'm in my 40's. I've got three kids, a son who is 23 and two daughters 18 and 16. I went to high school back in the late 70's and used to carry a just-in-case joint in my wallet to school every day. That was before they taught dogs to sniff it out and before there'd ever been a school shooting. They searched lockers only if they thought someone was selling, Even then it was just that one locker.
Your age is on your side here. If you're under 18 then you'll be treated almost as if you aren't old enough to know better. Everything they throw at you is a lesson, not a punishment. I know it feels like punishment. Once you hit 18 they won't cut you any slack at all.
You and I both know that the law has some lessons to learn for itself. With 2 million people in prison, half of them for what most of us here consider victimless crimes, this entire government obviously misinterpreted the constitution that our old buddy, author of that constitution and hemp grower extraordinaire Thomas Jefferson tried to teach them. That what you do with your own mind is nobody else's business.
Ah, but it's your parent's business if they're good parents at all. Sure, they probably smoked weed in their day. Like me they might even have friends or family who got so burned out on it they don't want you to go down the same path. My kids have always used my brother as an example of what not to become. They guy has done (and still does) every drug there is. He isn't going to last long and his only quality of life is in his head. He can't afford anything because he really just won't get off his butt and do anything. He's 50 and works at a place where he stacks molding strips, lives in a hotel, ignores his grown kids because he's embarassed, and has actually dragged some of his friends (who make a living dealing and stealing) to my 75 year old mother's house to meet the parents. Bad move. That pissed us off royally. He has lost all sense of discretion. He's also a drinker and (we found out when he was in ICU for a different problem) he's suffered heart attacks during crack binges. They almost couldn't bring him out of anesthesia because of the scars on his heart.
I don't want to sound like I'm lecturing here, because I'm not. This is really personal shit. But I can't even begin to tell you how many decisions a person has to make in a day. As far as this society is concerned, being successful in family and in business just means you can make a lot of decisions and most of them (not all) turn out for the better. If you don't have a sober moment in a day when you can see all sides of a situation then most of those decisions, big and small, probably won't be well considered. As lovely as it is, pot, weed, whatever draws you inside yourself and expands your senses. It enhances how you see the world, but it removes your ability to perceive how the world sees you or your actions. You know that "Can they tell I'm stoned?" feeling. This is key. If you can't sense what other people think or feel then it makes those decisions one-sided and pretty selfish. After years of making decisions everyone points out are wrong you begin to feel like "what the fuck, why try?" That's my brother to a tee.
My whole family blames the way my brother is on pot. I do too, in part. I say that because ANYTHING in excess is probably not a good thing. Weed, like alcohol, is a recreational experience. You can't spend your entire life at an amusement park and expect anything of lasting value to come of it. Fun only lasts as long as fun lasts. Fun is a way to blow off steam. Amusement parks exist, and should exist, to help us all.
I believe, because of all this, your parents aren't going to listen. They probably know that pot isn't physically harmful. Maybe every other weekend when life gets rough they take a trip to the old amusement park themselves. That's nobody's business but their own, and that's the boat I'm in. But they want you to be able to master the future that lies in front of you. Since you're under 18 then Screw the legal part of the whole situation. If you can't see what they're feeling for you then it's probably because you're stoned.
I mean no offense to all you good souls out there. This is just the way I see it.
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Originally Posted by sawleaf
There are those out there that would tell you there is a law against MJ possesion, but they are wrong. Terry Parker is a very sick epileptic that fought in the courts that the CDSA was uncondtitutional. On Aug 1, 2001 he won his case. They don't argue that the law died that dAy, they say the courts brought it back to life though. Only parliament can create a new law or bring back a dead law...They have been hiding this fact by still laying charges on people....most likely an attempt to prevent a free for all.
We don't condone use at school or anything like that, but the fact is MJ is a safer way to treat alot of illnesses. Without it Terry would surely have died from one of his many ceisures he has every day.
Here's a really good site about the medical use of MJ, it is actually a very good brain cancer fighter. Here's a snip...
Brain Chemicals Suggest Marijuana's Effects
Posted by CN Staff on September 15, 2004 at 10:52:51 PT
Cannabis News
By Miranda Hitti, WebMD Medical News
Source: WebMD
Marijuana is well known for its widespread effects on the brain. The key to understanding its impact may come from the brain's own pharmacy. Brains make their own calming substances called cannabinoids, which are similar to marijuana's active ingredients.
Here's the link to the rest of it.... http://www.medpot.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9690
Maybe this will help your parents & their Refer Madness....LOL
This is the main page where you can check out the real story on the fight against MJ & Terry, Marc & John etc... There's alot to read, but if you click on other topics you'll find alot of good reasons to smoke.... If you click on the Turmel link you'll see what's been happening in the courts.... & then there's Terry's story...... http://medpot.net/
http://www.medpot.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=10241 This is a T.V show that we got to speak on....
Hope all this helps
Buds4Life, I am not talking about medical cannabis use. I certainly know about and agree that marijuana is a great treament and medicine for many things. But this is not about the current laws or what parents think about cannabis. School have their own laws and policies. I am against all cannabis laws, but the fact is that it is a controlled substance and you kids must still treat it that way. We all know you did nothing wrong at all, but the damn law doesn't. You are treated like a criminal for disobeying unjust laws. If you put yourself in a situation where it is likely you will get caught, then don't complain when you do. Take precautions or make plans to avoid situations like that. Your situation is very unfortunate LearyS Disciple, but no matter how ridiculous the laws are, they are still laws for now. Hopefully not for too much longer.
MJ is also a preventative medicine...cancer etc...They will still charge you for possesion so you must be prepared if you chose to snoke. They've been illegally arresting people for almost 3 years now, but not for much longer, trust us when we say that....The law died for everyone, not just the sick & that will be proven in the next few months. LearyS Disciple seemed to be more upset at the fact his parents were so pot - a - phobic & we thought this info might get them off his backQuote:
Originally Posted by sawleaf
that's strange...in my school u can smoke up in the bathrooms or outside right by the trailers (overcrowdedness) and teachers usually don't care. not to mention there's a dealer at practically ever lunch table selling the shit. lol my school is just very lenient i guess. the cops do circle around the school every now and then, though. but that's pretty much it. my middle school, though was much stricter.