how is alcohol legal

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

Making something illegal doesnt promote responsibility. Thats ludicris!!!
All it teaches us is how to stay under the radar. We have to fend for ourselves. Millions are rotting in jail right fcking now.

Making it illegal only makes it more dangerous because we have to deal with the black market, lengthy prision terms, paranoia, harassment, unemployment, discrimination, disinformation, our children are taken away. People are dying faster because they have to take dangerous medications that could be replaced by weed. The planet is dying because hemp is so close to cannabis. How much forest is cut down each year? Think of the people dying all over the world in wars, caused by the insanity that being sober brings.
Weed should be all out legal.

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Well, its not even worth it to argue with your obvious fantasy world where pot is the center of the universe.. so i'll skip to this:

If you honestly don't think that something being consequential leads to more cautiousness, then I'm not sure of any easier way to explain it to you.. so I guess you can just go ahead thinking that making things illegal, and thus having consequence do not promote more responsible and cautious behavior or use.

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Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho

i don't know whether to call you an idiot or retarded, but you're one of those two if you think my post was serious.... i'm starting to wonder about some of the people on this site, ironic tho you tell me that i need to learn abou tthe world but you can't decipher obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite...

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Well then you are obviously having the problem of expressing yourself if its not just me who has made you wonder about that.. and there is no such thing as "obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite" -- your post stated:

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because the govt. always (for some odd fucking reason) seems to want to take shit away from their people,

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..nothing in that post indicated any sarcasm, or.. "non-seriousness".

Here's something to think about when it comes to Marijuana being legal. If this ever were to happen, it would all be a business. Large, money hungry industries getting their hands on marijuana would do the same thing as the tobacco industries.. there is no question they would add unnatural addictive chemicals to marijuana at the same and it would go the way of cigarettes. It would not be cheaper, AT ALL if there was a marijuana industry (which is what it would be, if it were ever legal). It would not be cheaper, it would be much more expensive. Look at the price of a box of cigarettes and tell me how much material you possibly think is in there. I hope this never happens to marijuana.

alcohol used to be illegal, but prohibition didn't work and it was re-lagalised soon after...
it's a shame that more people weren't smoking pot back in the day or more people would have been fighting to keep it legal and it would have ended up that way!
allowing alcohol to be legal and cannabis not is reall bs when it comes to our politicians saying its because it will ruin our health

well i thought the ONLY reason weed will never be legal is because anyone can grow it, so even if they try to tax it, if its legal everyone would be growing it and that the stingy ass government wouldnt get much. Plus there making so much on there muscle relaxers and pain killers they perscribe to any tom dick or harry that got a toothache ect. When They Made alcohal illegal, the mob got rich bootlegging it so i think they should legalize mary jane and control it to there best abillity, make restrictions. Why fill up the jail with inncocent citizens tryna get a buzz, when killers and terrorist are running loose.

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Originally Posted by Dutch Masta

Well, its not even worth it to argue with your obvious fantasy world where pot is the center of the universe.. so i'll skip to this:

If you honestly don't think that something being consequential leads to more cautiousness, then I'm not sure of any easier way to explain it to you.. so I guess you can just go ahead thinking that making things illegal, and thus having consequence do not promote more responsible and cautious behavior or use.



Well then you are obviously having the problem of expressing yourself if its not just me who has made you wonder about that.. and there is no such thing as "obvious 'non-seriousness' from the opposite" -- your post stated:


..nothing in that post indicated any sarcasm, or.. "non-seriousness".

Here's something to think about when it comes to Marijuana being legal. If this ever were to happen, it would all be a business. Large, money hungry industries getting their hands on marijuana would do the same thing as the tobacco industries.. there is no question they would add unnatural addictive chemicals to marijuana at the same and it would go the way of cigarettes. It would not be cheaper, AT ALL if there was a marijuana industry (which is what it would be, if it were ever legal). It would not be cheaper, it would be much more expensive. Look at the price of a box of cigarettes and tell me how much material you possibly think is in there. I hope this never happens to marijuana.

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so then i suppose i need to make my damn signature state "If it sounds more than likely like a 13 year old's mentality, then it's more than likely not my actual feelings on the subject, as i do not have the mentality of a 13 year old, and am a very open minded individual, even about the govt. we have, as shitty as it really is." Anyone can use 2% of their brain power and decipher something is more than likely not to be taken seriously, even over the internet. Or better yet, can even ask before making such a presumption, anyone who does otherwise isn't confused on whether to take it literal or not, but just wants that person to be serious so they may prove their points, or atleast on the internet. The internet is one giant fight, and no one is not guilty of participating in that fight, unless they're just that damned brand new to communicating with people through it, or they don't communicate with anyone through it at all.

i no everyone who i talk to about that says they would rather see alcohol illegal then marijuana

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Originally Posted by icebelowfreeze

well i thought the ONLY reason weed will never be legal is because anyone can grow it, so even if they try to tax it, if its legal everyone would be growing it and that the stingy ass government wouldnt get much.

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No, if it was legal I am sure it would be illegal to grow your own. As it is illegal to make your own alcohol, and grow your own tobacco.

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

Think of the people dying all over the world in wars, caused by the insanity that being sober brings.

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Are you honestly saying that wars are started by people who went insane from being sober?

it may well stay illegal to grow your own if it is legalised. but since when has that ever stopped us? at least we won't be hounded for toking on the streets.

Prohibition doesn't make things safer, or use more responsible. Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them. We had (alcohol) prohibition. What happened when alcohol was made illegal is that criminals took over the production and distribution, and the end product available to consumers varied wildly in terms of safety. You just never knew what you were getting, because it was all produced by criminals whose only interest was making money, not the quality of the product.

Fast forward to today. There is a prohibition against drugs now. Does the fact that drugs are illegal make them safer? Obviously not, as the recent round of poisoned heroin clearly demonstrates. People are dying needlessly because of the current drug prohibition. You often don't know what you're buying. It could be laced, it could be poison, it could be fatal, it could be safe and pure. No matter how responsibly you WANT to use your drugs of choice, you are limited in doing so by the fact that you don't have any idea what the hell you're buying. And who's running production and distribution? Again, just as happened with alcohol prohibition, it's the criminals, especially large international criminal enterprises, whose only interest is making money, not the quality or safety of their product.

Prohibition is a terrible idea. We figured that out once, but apparently, as a collective whole, we have forgotten the lesson we once learned, and are now doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Those most against any form of drug legalization or decriminalization? The criminals, of course, who have much to lose financially. If criminals WANT drugs to be illegal in order to maximize their profits, at significant cost to our citizens' lives, should we not at least ponder whether giving the criminals what they want might NOT be the wisest course of action?

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Originally Posted by Dutch Masta

I don't really feel that Marijuana should be legalized. Once you realize why, its quite clear. The whole concept of it being illegal is what promotes the responsible use of it. When I was younger, I would think how great it would be for an entire society to be high all the time, but now I finally realize why this drug does need to be regulated. I feel that the current regulation for Marijuana is not entirely fair, and that it should atleast be decriminalized to a point where prison time should not be considerable. But then again, this fear of such penalty is what creates responsibilty with the drug. If you are using it responsibly, you won't get caught.. and its that simple.

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Look man, as a 14 year old I was able to buy some soapbar hash, covered in glue and plastic bags for a rip off price. My money probably ended up going to the IRA.

I couldnt get served alcohol at 14, I could at 16 but that's just because I look older than I am, most people cant.

So, if a 14 year old can unknowing fund terrorism, do you think the system is working? It took me 2 days to get ahold of some 'hash' once I wanted it.