Why do you protest so?

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Originally Posted by pisshead

the police aren't being militarized for nothing...they aren't being trained to treat us like terrorists for nothing...

they know in the not too distant future there are going to be things that will cause mass protests...even the neo-cons won't be able to hide...

they're being trained to engage a mass protesting population with excessive force.

you can also tell which side of an issue the establishment is on by who they get the police to target.

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The police are being militarized thats for sure.

At the end of last year America's police forces got together to sue the makers of their body armor, stateing that the manufacturers have been hideing a default.

Currently the DOD has changed is rules allowing for the sale of Military body armor to civilian police forces.

The military armor in question is manufactured by federal prisoners at a cost of 98 cents per hour.

Now you know why our prison population will never be reduced, even tho the current system is obviuosly not working. As things get more out of control, the rules will only get tougher sending more and more to prison.

This punishment system is at the core of our society, and never questions the why of behavior only the behavior. See Alfie Kohns book "Unconditional Parenting".

Remember that bank robbery in California where the two armed individuals were cutting the police to shreads? THAT could be a reason for the interest in body armour.

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Originally Posted by hempity

Everyone on the american continet is an american, the british, french and germans are on a different continet.
You are all south to me, and I am not attacking anyone, just relating exchanges between two people, one kicked off for calling people good little nazi's, it does seem a bit one sided if others are not held to the same standard.

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Nazi is a very harsh slanderous word imo..I didn't used to think that..but I changed my mind after learning the truth about what the Nazis did..and how they enjoyed what they did. Being held in comparison to a Nazi is worse than being called a Yankee..but anyway..we prefer to be called most anything but Yankees here....just pointing out the difference in certain parts of the world concerning the intent of some words...and thanks for clarifying continent for me.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Remember that bank robbery in California where the two armed individuals were cutting the police to shreads? THAT could be a reason for the interest in body armour.

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I guess next you'll claim that Columbine is reason to have armed guards at schools too.

In fact ANYONE can get ahold of body armor, and the assailants in LA didnt have military armor, they had 2 layers of civilian armor.

What held them aside from the regular hold up man is that they had technical expertise that allowed them to make semi-automatic weapons into automatic weapons.

Do some research on gunsmithing and you will see that its not that hard to do.

It's only some modifications to internal parts. Not only that, I think even you could get yer hands on an Uzi or an Ak for the right amount of money, without even havring to know anything about gunsmithing.

Not to mention your example is almost 10 years old.

Do you really think that an isolated inccident almost 10 years ago is cause for the drastic changes in DOD policy?

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Originally Posted by hempity

Try holding off on the name calling, if you want to talk to me.

In Canada we fight the same people that the Iraq's fight, different levels but the same enemy.
When I was aressted it was the dea-d that ran the show.
Why are yankees(sorry but I don't know what else to call you guys) up here doing the aressting? Why do we have dea-d offices in our major cities?
It is world wide terrorism and the ones doing it are the ones screaming the loudest.

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The term Yankee has a variety of meanings. Generally, it refers to citizens of the United States, particularly northerners, especially those Americans from the Northeastern United States whose ancestors arrived before 1776. Many Yankees migrated from New England and settled the northern parts of New York and the Midwest, as well as the Pacific Coast from San Francisco to Seattle.

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1 History
1.1 Origins
2 Contemporary uses
2.1 In the United States
2.2 In other parts of the world
3 References
4 External links



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History
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Origins
The origins of the term are disputed. One theory claims that it originated in the 1760s from an English rendering of the Dutch Jan Kees ("John Cheese"), a nickname used by Dutch settlers in upstate New York referring to the New Englanders who were migrating to their region. (see Martin Van Buren) The first recorded use of the term by an Englishman to refer to Americans appears in the 1780s, in a letter by Admiral Lord Nelson.

There are several other folk and humorous etymologies for the word.


Loyalist newspaper cartoon from Boston 1776 ridicules "Yankie Doodles" militia who have encircled the city [click to read text]One influence on the use of the term throughout the years has been the song Yankee Doodle, which was popular at the time of the American Revolutionary War (1775â??1783). Though the British intended to insult the colonials with the song, following the Battle of Concord, it was adopted by Americans as a proud retort and today is the state song of Connecticut.

An early use of the term outside the United States was in the creation of Sam Slick, the "Yankee Clockmaker", in a column in a newspaper in Halifax, Nova Scotia, in 1835. The character was a plain-talking American who served to poke fun at American and Nova Scotian customs of that era, while trying to urge the Canadians to be as clever and hard-working as the Yankees.

During the American Civil War (1861 - 1865) southern soldiers used it as a derogatory term for their Northern enemies--including even Irish Americans. The term also referred to the border states and even African American troops who fought for the Union. As an ethnic group the Yankees dispersed throughout New England, upstate New York, the northern Midwest, and the Pacific Northwest--and even Hawaii. They brought along their religion (Congregational, but also Methodist and Northern Baptist), their politics (Republican), their drive for education, their complex social structure that emphasized brainpower over manual skills, and favored intricate rule-based organizations, like corporations. They tended to dominate business, finance, philanthropy and higher education, but were much less successful in politics, where the Irish Americans seemed to have the advantage. The Yankees, who dominated New England, much of upstate New York, and much of the upper Midwest were the strongest supporters of the new Republican party in the 1860s. This was especially true for the Congregationalists and Presbyterians among them and (during the war), the Methodists. A study of 65 predominantly Yankee counties showed they voted only 40% for the Whigs in 1848 and 1852, but became 61-65% Republican in presidential elections of 1856 through 1864. [Kleppner p 55]

The word may also be derived from "yancey", the word many Native American tribes used to refer to Whites during the early colonial period.


Yankees originally lived in villages (avoiding spread-out farms), fostered local democracy through town meetings, and emphasized puritanical morality. They left agriculture as soon as possible for careers in the city. Many were characterized by introspection of the sort that produces diaries.

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Contemporary uses
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In the United States
Within the United States, the term Yankee can have a number of different contextually and geographically dependent meanings.

Traditionally Yankee was most often used to refer to a New Englander (in which case it may denote New England puritan and thrifty values), but today refers to anyone coming from a state north of the Potomac River, with a specific focus still on New England. However, within New England itself, the term is often understood to refer more specifically to old-stock New Englanders of English descent. The term WASP, in use since the 1960s, is often derogatory. The term "Swamp Yankee" is used in rural Rhode Island and eastern Connecticut to refer to Protestant farmers of moderate means and their descendants (as opposed to upper-class Yankees). The old Yankee twang survives mainly in the hill towns of interior New England. The most characteristic Yankee food was the pie; Yankee author Harriet Beecher Stowe in her novel Oldtown Folks celebrated the social traditions surrounding the Yankee pie.

In the American South the term is still used as a derisive term for northerners, even those who migrate to the South. From 1860 to the 1920s a favored term was "damn Yankee".

A humorous aphorism attributed to E.B. White summarizes these distinctions:

To foreigners, a Yankee is an American.
To Americans, a Yankee is a Northerner.
To Easterners, a Yankee is a New Englander.
To New Englanders, a Yankee is a Vermonter.
And in Vermont, a Yankee is somebody who eats pie for breakfast.
Since the beginning of the 20th Century, the term has also been used by Americans to refer to the New York Yankees baseball team, or the fans of that team.

It must be noted that some American Southerners find the term mildly irritating if not somewhat offensive as the term was often used to describe the enemy during the War Between the States (1861-1865). Southerners will occasionally use this term to describe Northerners that embody the worst of Yankee stereotypes: obnoxiousness, sanctimoniousness and arrogance

Witch one were you refering too ^^^^^^^^^^^

you cant even get your stereotypes right......

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Originally Posted by Marlboroman

I guess next you'll claim that Columbine is reason to have armed guards at schools too.

In fact ANYONE can get ahold of body armor, and the assailants in LA didnt have military armor, they had 2 layers of civilian armor.

What held them aside from the regular hold up man is that they had technical expertise that allowed them to make semi-automatic weapons into automatic weapons.

Do some research on gunsmithing and you will see that its not that hard to do.

It's only some modifications to internal parts. Not only that, I think even you could get yer hands on an Uzi or an Ak for the right amount of money, without even havring to know anything about gunsmithing.

Not to mention your example is almost 10 years old.

Do you really think that an isolated inccident almost 10 years ago is cause for the drastic changes in DOD policy?

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No the teachers should have had guns... and went out in the halls and blown their heads off... that happened down the street from me....easy buddy

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Originally Posted by Bong30

No the teachers should have had guns... and went out in the halls and blown their heads off... that happened down the street from me....easy buddy

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The topic isnt columbine or LA, the topic is about Militarized police.

Oh you dont have anything to add to the topic i see.

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Originally Posted by Marlboroman

I guess next you'll claim that Columbine is reason to have armed guards at schools too.

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i will quote you... just to prove that i was responding to your point.


i said No the teachers should have guns.....(if they want to carry)

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Originally Posted by Marlboroman

Do you really think that an isolated inccident almost 10 years ago is cause for the drastic changes in DOD policy?

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problem reaction solution.

and the whole time they get us to cheer on military dictatorship, as if that will protect us.

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Originally Posted by pisshead

problem reaction solution.

and the whole time they get us to cheer on military dictatorship, as if that will protect us.

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That is unless your talking about the Mexican border....right?:D