Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Fengzi
Umm, as much as I hate to say it, you got it backwards.
""To stop the Democrats' pro-slavery agenda, anti-slavery activists founded the Republican party, starting with a few dozen men and women in Ripon, Wisconsin on March 20, 1854," the calendar notes. "Democratic opposition to Republican efforts to protect the civil rights of all Americans lasted not only throughout Reconstruction, but well into the 20th century. In the south, those Democrats who most bitterly opposed equality for blacks founded the Ku Klux Klan, which operated as the party's terrorist wing."
Although I would be willing to bet that most Klan members today are card carrying Republicans.
Where are the KKK these days?? I keep hearing about them but right here in Good Old Dixie they are like Bigfoot now...we hear about them but never see them...I am going to post a reward for these claims to be substantiated.:thumbsup: At least you told the truth even though you hated to..whats wrong with the truth on that war?
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
The born-againers, fundies, and other christers, that still support Bush are more concerned with the apocalypse and second coming of the non-existent, mythical savior god than the destruction of their country. They do not care about credit card debt, national debt, a war that was unnecessary (Iraq), overuse of the disappearing oil supply, a raped economy, horrendous foreign policy in the ??holy land?, crooks running the rest of the so-called government, and the transformation of a half-way decent Republican Party into a régime of Bush cronies that have exploited 9/11 for profit and power .
I do not believe that the government coordinated 9/11. I was profoundly affected by it, because I was in lower NYC very close to the scene on the day it happened, and still go there almost every day. But, it never should have happened in the first place - and would not have if we had people in charge that had some awarness of reality (including Clinton).
Unless the human race drops the mental illness called religion, all signs point toward eventual mass destruction, and possible the end of human life as we know it.
Good job, Bush - you outdid our worst expectations. You were lucky that the Democrats were so weak, because regrettably, myself, and many other people, voted for you due to that.
Your right..It should have Never happened and I still don't know how New Yorkers don't live in fear..I would have moved if I had seen that..stronger than me..How could any President have stopped that? I mean they did catch us off guard..like Pearl Harbor..and America pulled together then..what happened this time? And I see where you used the word "exploited"..good description that makes sense instead of the conspiracy stuff I read.
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Shelbay
Your right..It should have Never happened and I still don't know how New Yorkers don't live in fear..I would have moved if I had seen that..stronger than me..How could any President have stopped that? I mean they did catch us off guard..like Pearl Harbor..and America pulled together then..what happened this time? And I see where you used the word "exploited"..good description that makes sense instead of the conspiracy stuff I read.
Yes they did catch us "off guard", but that was because of stupidity on our part. For one thing the doors of the captain's cabin should have been secured. The airlines allowed children, and others to see the pilot(s). Israel has not had a hijacking since they reinforced the doors. No Israeli plane will bow to the demands of hijackers and change course, regardless of box cutters - or even guns.
Supporting the Afghanistani insurgents in the 80's, by the U.S. government, was a huge mistake. We even supported jihad against the USSR by them!
If Jimmy Carter ha deposed the Iranian Ayatollah, and replaced him with a more secular Shaw, Reagan wouldn't have won the election, ushering in Bush, then Clinton, and Dubya. I remember debating the "Shaw vs. Ayatollah" question with ill-informed people before they took the hostages. May of my left-leaning young associates at work (c. 1979) believed that the Ayatollay was better than the Shaw of Iran. I disagreed, even back then.
There's a million reasons why things are screwed up - and I'm sorry to say that the religious mindset, and American complacence, are largely responsible. The rest of the blame lies with a stupid Democratic Party, and a Republican administration that is taking advantage of a bad situation that they themselves ushered in.
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
Correction, the "Shaw" of Iran should read "Shah" of Iran.
Geez, next I'll be quoting George Bernard Shaw's words. Hey, that's not a bad idea, either! :dance:
A fool's brain digests philosophy into folly, science into superstition, and art into pedantry. Hence University education.
George Bernard Shaw
A genius can't be forced; nor can you make an ape an alderman.
George Bernard Shaw
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
George Bernard Shaw
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.
George Bernard Shaw
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
There's a million reasons why things are screwed up - and I'm sorry to say that the religious mindset, and American complacence, are largely responsible. The rest of the blame lies with a stupid Democratic Party, and a Republican administration that is taking advantage of a bad situation that they themselves ushered in.
I agree with your assessment/position. In order to change the course of U.S. religious nationalism we need a new legislative branch and to demand sensible, socially (i.e., not rooted in religious doctrine) responsible legislation to expand and protect liberties and equalities. That rules out nearly everyone sitting in the congress and senate because they voted for the UnPatriot Act.
To put a practical twist on it... VOTE them all out! :mad:
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
I saw a "Special Report" Friday night about ONE Air Marshall that is telling the truth about how the planes are not any safer than before 9-11..and actually said after the show aired he would most likely be fired but he could not keep working and America believe they were any safer..He was a Marshall himself..anyway...he showed many clips of our Marshalls patrolling the skies talking on phones and other "distractions"..and also that they are not supposed to be known who they are..heck even I could pick them out. So why instead of all the superficial PC "stuff" being done all in the name of our safety are there not steel doors on planes yet? That was a great example using Israel that caught my attention. He said by the Marshall making their presence known that IF Terrorists were on board they would know exactly who to take out FIRST. I believe him. I am assuming we (America) still don't have steel doors in our planes....
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy Miss Green,
See..what you ain't understanding is,is that our soldiers and I,don't serve Bush..we serve our country and it's citizens,the president is merely the commander-in-chief..just another imperfect sinner..like you and I. My primary allegiance is to God and His Son,Jesus Christ. Our soldiers risk their lives,because they believe in the mission and they want to plant the seeds of Freedom,Justice and Equality for all.
Our soldier's also have the good sense to realize--that it's best to fight the war over there..rather than on the streets of America.
I will reserve my judgement of the validity of 9/11/01..until proven otherwise,it stands as an attack on America--by terrorists originating from the middle-east,working with usama.
Have a good one ...
Well there is no hope helping people like you who clearly can't see behind the picture,but in 20 to 30 years time we will be looking at this as the DARK ages and people like yourself will be apart of the dark ages for supporting such an ilegal war its a joke.If you truely think that the middle east were going or any other country for that matter to truely take over think about it would be way to much resources to use,Just like down here in Australia there is no way that this country is going to invade we would know before they got here.So another words its fantasy just like america and britian is a fantasy open your eyes.:o :pimp:
Democrats - World's second largest Death Cult
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Originally Posted by Miss Green
Well there is no hope helping people like you who clearly can't see behind the picture,but in 20 to 30 years time we will be looking at this as the DARK ages and people like yourself will be apart of the dark ages for supporting such an ilegal war its a joke.If you truely think that the middle east were going or any other country for that matter to truely take over think about it would be way to much resources to use,Just like down here in Australia there is no way that this country is going to invade we would know before they got here.So another words its fantasy just like america and britian is a fantasy open your eyes.:o :pimp:
Howdy Miss Green,
Just because I don't believe in the conspiracy theory of the day,doesn't make me hope-less..it makes me prudent..to wait until all the facts are in,before believeing in an un-proven theory.
Acting in self-defense of ourselves and our allies,is not illegal. Why do you feel that it's okay for us and our allie's to be attacked and that we cannot defend ourselves from such ? That we must first git permission from non-Americans and non-allies ? Do you also believe,like Ward Churchill,that the folks in the world trade center,were all "little eichmanns",that deserved to die ? How many Americans have to be murdered,before you think that we have attoned for all of our 'sin's' ?
Have a good one ...