America and Fascism

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Originally Posted by minnesota man

You guys are repeating yourselves. You think you are against America but what you are really against is the perspective of America that has been drilled into your brains by your news sources.

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i should clarify that, america is my fasvourite country...but it is not what it was supposed to be..it was supposed to be a gathering of peace, not a house of war-mongers

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Originally Posted by minnesota man

No, Oneironaut. You're not against things and people in America but I think you fit into the group that complains when your guy ain't in power and smiles when he is.

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Wrong. I don't support any political candidate. I am an anarchist and therefore am against all forms of power hierarchies such as government.

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The thing is there are 2 truths, (Dem and Rep) totally opposite and totally correct. We need to move beyond the talking heads. They have put us in a constant state of arguing and debating instead of finding mutual understanding.

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I'm against both Democrats and Republicans. Both groups fail to address the harmful effect that hierarchical systems like capitalism and the state have on society. Instead they only compete to get their guys in control of the government. They are two sides of the same coin, really, and I don't really care what either has to say.

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This here post is weak compared to some other arguements I posted this. Thanks for your feedback. I will consider it and respond later.

Have a great fakking day and if I could share my doob with you, I would.

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That's all right, I'm pretty goddamn baked as it is. :stoned:

Shit, my bad Oneironaut. I know what your saying about anarchy. Sorry to clump you in the group I'm talking about.

Edit: I see you've already made yourself clear. BTW, your posts rock, why don't you collect your ideas and put up a site or something. Not trying to kiss ass but to say what I think.

Hahaha, don't see the irony? Minnesota is complaining about how the Democrats and Republicans are complaining! What a fucking rat race.

Please, they can't even get past not judging people for not wearing a SUIT to debates. Give me a fucking break. Their petty arguments have no weight and serve no relative purpose in the big picture.

Everything goes round and round in a circle. (Or hits the proverbial wall, if you will.) Ride the spiral. You've heard the phrase "vicious circle".

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Originally Posted by minnesota man

You guys are repeating yourselves. You think you are against America but what you are really against is the perspective of America that has been drilled into your brains by your news sources. Turn off your TVs and live in your own utopia. There is a greater problem with misguided hatred than with the American government.

If you utter one more "Bush is a moron" quip, I'm gonna puke.

I'm not explaining myself until I get flamed a little.

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Im not gonna flame ya im gonna agree with ya

See kids, this is what happens when you recieve generations of propaganda bullshit plastered everywhere you look and go. TURN OFF YER GODDAMN TV, CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION. Wanna do some good? Dont listen to mainstream media bullshit. Look at the fuckin news, its pathetic, you know they are just regurgitating what someone wants you to hear. Aside from the propaganda, dont you see how the media glorifies evil?? They wait and wait for some story that is depressing/violent/evil. Why? Because it makes fer good news.

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Originally Posted by lateralus

Everything goes round and round in a circle. (Or hits the proverbial wall, if you will.) Ride the spiral. You've heard the phrase "vicious circle".

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Good point.

I see it as an onion as opposed to a circle. The deeper you get into the core, the more you understand the situation. All the "I hate Bush, blah, blah, blah" just shows what layor your at in the onion.


Edit: Right on, Otterpop!

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Originally Posted by minnesota man

I see it as an onion as opposed to a circle. The deeper you get into the core, the more you understand the situation. All the "I hate Bush, blah, blah, blah" just shows what layor your at in the onion.

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Yes! That's what I was saying earlier. It's just that, in my opinion, the problem lies in that we're human, and thus prone to imperfection. You can't build a house without the right tools. Surely we can't expect to create something perfect when we are far from it ourselves.

Agreed.

in the end, it is what it is, and those that are willing to try for a better casue will do so, those that want one but are too lazy will do so, and those that want communists will do so