September 11, 2001 "Insider's Job"... Bush's own staff admit it was a inside job!!!

^^^ please,
look at all the scandals JUST SURFACING NOW
things are covered up very well

LOL OMG the media 100% behind this government or shall i say in on it from the get go...

Hey psycho you keep on saying the airplanes were full of people but the planes were not full of people maybe 35 & under in each plane...and weres dem arabs at on the list, oh yeah i forgot its a disgraces to post them in the same list as the victims

"you are absolutly right, just take a look at the american economy. gas prices are through the roof, but its still costing the same amount to buy the oil, wtf?"

Prices are based on on the cost to restock it, which means oil, transportation, profit, etc. etc.

"we're on the verge of an economic crisis because bush wont fucking stop spending OUR (thats right mine and yours) money!"

Partly, but we brought it upon ourselves. We are a credit society who in reality, doesn't keep too good track of debt. It reflects upon our government as well. While this powers the economy, eventually the well will run dry.

"why would our govt give a shit about a few thousand lives? especially foreign ones too (not everyone in the WTC was from america). I mean they have no fucking problem sending out youth to die horribly in afgahnistan and iraq (why are we in iraq???????? all there is is desert with oil under it........"

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watch the video Loose change, if you actually paid any attention at all or researched to make sure you're right before you post something then you would know that several levels were cleared out for unexplained reasons DAYS before 9/11. giving them PLENTY of oppourtunity to plant explosives, and why couldnt we see them? well it would've been really smart to leave a bomb out in the open for everyone too see right? if you had an IQ above 10 then you would put the bomb in a wall or in a sealed box or somewhere else"

They don't. Then again, it's hard to tell what is real and what's made up, I'm talking about both sides of the story. Some points in Loose Change made common sense, but the way WTC is designed, it was meant to fall straight down if that were the case. The steel columns are designed to hold the entire weight in the center, so all the weight shifts towards the middle like an implosion if indeed these beams collapsed. What isn't plausable is how the beams would collapse. That's where the bomb theory has a stint of truth, although we'll never know without evidence.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...61603&q=9%2F11
^ better than loose change... doesn't go into the why like loose change, but does a better job in addressing the what happened that day... it's worth watching the first 20 min... I'd watch the whole thing many times, but atleast a little...

this one is the BYu professor Reynolds refers to alot...it's atwo hour lecture..
http://filmstripinternational.com/fi...lmstrip=jones2
^loose change is also linked on that page...

Psycho, why did you say "I did a bit of research on Reynold also, VERY disgruntled man!" and what does that mean??

not attacking, but nothing I found sounded like he was pissed or was doing this for any other reason than the truth... where did you do your 'bit' of research?? what did you find that would discredit him?? j/w

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Originally Posted by Gumby

where did you do your 'bit' of research?? what did you find that would discredit him?? j/w

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He has his own site....check out his articles and the manner that their wrote. Looks like a prisonplanet page.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

well, maybe instead of thinking that it's not factually correct because of the way it is written.. if that is the case fox news is no better... shouldn't the fact of the offices he held matter some. And the facts behind it? Why and since when has, 'because it looks like prison planet' been a good excuse to discredit someone?


I looked at his site and from what I could tell it was all pretty well defended and back up with references and he backed up his claims pretty well... why is it ok for him to do that, yet be discredited??

I guess what I'm trying to ask is what is your oponion of a good arguement if the end result does not match the one in your head?

Even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories... watch the videos a couple times and you'll soon realize it was not commercial planes that crashed into the buildings. I never noticed it until it was pointed out but look carefully and you'll realize there's no windows... I'm sorry but if you have ever been on a commercial flight you know that each row of seats has windows. And it's not that the passengers had their windows pulled down, there aren't any windows period!

I for one have flown on Boeing 757's and 767's several times and they are HUGE planes for long flights, with hundreds of seats and windows... it's pretty evident in the videos thats not one of those planes.

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Originally Posted by skarz

Even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories... watch the videos a couple times and you'll soon realize it was not commercial planes that crashed into the buildings. I never noticed it until it was pointed out but look carefully and you'll realize there's no windows... I'm sorry but if you have ever been on a commercial flight you know that each row of seats has windows. And it's not that the passengers had their windows pulled down, there aren't any windows period!

I for one have flown on Boeing 757's and 767's several times and they are HUGE planes for long flights, with hundreds of seats and windows... it's pretty evident in the videos thats not one of those planes.

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I remember watching it live on TV the second plane hit & I said something like "that looks like a military plane"..and not making me an expert or not, but I have been in military planes and been around them all my life, and do know the difference in planes and it did not look like a commercial airline..And the Official story propaganda cant change my mind...

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Originally Posted by skarz

Even if you don't believe the conspiracy theories... watch the videos a couple times and you'll soon realize it was not commercial planes that crashed into the buildings. I never noticed it until it was pointed out but look carefully and you'll realize there's no windows... I'm sorry but if you have ever been on a commercial flight you know that each row of seats has windows. And it's not that the passengers had their windows pulled down, there aren't any windows period!

I for one have flown on Boeing 757's and 767's several times and they are HUGE planes for long flights, with hundreds of seats and windows... it's pretty evident in the videos thats not one of those planes.

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You have close up pics for a lil' proof on that? I've never seen a pic of the WTC planes that were clear enough to disclose if there were windows or not.

Have a good one!:thumbsup: