Very wierd theory check this out

for some reason i dont think many people who have been blind since birth use any drugs

unless somone can prove me wrong?

they probably have a completely different sense of reality than we do

i heard that Einstein had ADD and that he just knew how to control it and use it to make those connections. But i kinda wish a new a truly blind person so i could ask em. They only person close to being blind that i no is this kid in one of my classes and he has only one eye.

o and i checked out the thing on blind people dreaming who have been blind from birth and it says that they dont see in their dreams but the have dreams were they can taste, smell and touch things. srry bout the double post

I wonder how people deaf since birth think. How their thoughts are structured, I mean. For me at least they are words in my head in basically my own voice, but if you've never heard the words?

Shit ya i never thought of that. Also people who speak differant laguages i wondered what english sounds like to them. Cuz i no when i hear a new language ive never heard it sounds like gibberish.

lol yeah I have always wondered kind of thoughts are in a dog's mind. if they have some sort of innner language. and if they did .... what if we could monitor thier brains with computers and somehow have the computer learn thier language so we could use it as a translator and have it tell the dog to go fetch the newspaper or to use the toilet :-).

Read about the first half of this thread, then stopped, just FYI (in case something to this effect was said in the bottom half).

What do you mean, "just" in the head? All experiences are "in the head" (i.e. mental). When a person with normal vision sees, the experience of seeng is in the head - nobody directly experiences their optic nerves sending certain impulses. Most blind/deaf people still have the parts of the brain that interpret experiences of sight and sound; in computer terms, you can think of this as having broken hardware but working drivers. Hallucinogenic experiences can be explained entirely within scientific understanding of the brain.

Note that I'm not saying I think science is everything. I think the idea of people with disabilities exploring mind-altering substances is certainly very interesting, and I can only imagine what a trip would be like for someone who was born blind (or deaf, for audio hallucinogens), but I think trying to "prove" that you "really see" something "real" is the wrong way of going about it. Salvia trips (and other trips, for that matter) are rather subjective and tend not to match up well with our preconceived notions about what is and is not "real."

I have had times on salvia where there were people waiting for me in the other dimensions. these people were normal looking humans and they were talking to me. I could see them as clear as day with most likely my third eye vision. when you are in true soul form there is no such thing as eyes or ears. the true soul form is more like a gas cloud. the soul needs no hardware to sense things.
the thing is when you are born you dont remember being in soul form before you were born.
I beleive Salvia can bring this state back to the user and connect them with the senses of the soul that they can then use to see or hear or taste or touch.