chemical/synthetic drugs related topics???

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

I don't really see the point of stooping down to the level of sites like Freevibe, who censor anything that doesn't agree with their predetermined standards of which drugs are okay and which ones aren't. Like mrdevious said, people need a place where they can talk about these things, if for no other reason than to provide a source of knowledge about the effects of these drugs outside the framework of the government propaganda (they're not just spreading disinformation about weed you know). The only thing worse than being addicted to some of those hard drugs is being addicted to them and not being correctly informed about them.

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what are you talking about??? who told you about cencorship??

nobody's cencoring noone. it is just a choice. don't choose it. i didn't choose it as i've written to my second message. there are two more choices. if you don't choose the other ones, it is still ok. you see!! no cencorship :D

but for me: "weed is good, chemicals are bad" is a fact. and i'd prefer it to be written to the sky above. after that we'd talk about everything. no cencorship!!! :D

BEST TO LISTEN TO ERMITONTO. DUDE KNOWS HIS SHIT. NOT LITERALLY.

NOBODY IS GOING TO LISTEN TO THE GUY WITH THE HORROR AVATAR ANYWAY hahaHAH ;)

by the way sorry about my speed. i'm a bit high :) and english is not my native language.

i'd have created miracles if we were talking in turkish :D

GOOD JOB SPEAKING ENGLISH HORRORMAN :)

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

All drugs are different. The point is to get past the mentality that substances can be evil in themselves, and to critically evaluate the effects of potentially harmful substances rather than lumping them all into one category of "bad drugs". The same principle holds whether you include cannabis in the bad drugs category or not. Anybody provided with truthful, non-biased information about drugs will quickly realize that cannabis is not nearly as dangerous as other substances can be. We don't need to determine for other people what drugs are good and what drugs aren't; everybody is capable of drawing their own conclusions, and those differing conclusions need to be tolerated if we want to respect freedom of expression. Why filter the available information based on our own opinions? Whose opinions on what drugs are okay should determine what gets censored?

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ok no cencorship and no dictatorship neither. there is a possibility that you're not replying my messages. if so, i'm already sorry.

nobody has to conclude about good and bad. talking about cannabis in cannabis.com forums is a normal thing.

and everybody would say anything they want to say. but when they talk about other drugs let's let them have a place of thier own :D

i don't want parents to see all these subjects mixed up, when they search cannabis by google. this is my opinion actually. no dictatorship :D not me :D :D

just a wish for the cause..

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Regardless of whether or not the substances ever get legalized, there will be hordes of people using them. And most of those people will also be cannabis smokers. Better to let them talk about what they're doing and allow them to get feedback from the experienced people here, than force them to shut up about it and keep on taking their drug of choice in ignorance of what might have been helpful or even life-saving information.

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no man. you can't be replying me.

you had a pre-arranged text and you cut it into pieces. and now sending them one by one :D :D :D

elementary my dears. now i'm relieved... :cool: :cool:

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Originally Posted by Euphoric

GOOD JOB SPEAKING ENGLISH HORRORMAN :)

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if you say so, i'm in.. :cool:

don't pre-judge me by my avatar. smoke&legalize weed, so all your prejudicies will be gone for good :D :D

by the way, the horroman is actually very emotional and romantic deep down :confused: :confused: :D :D

Anybody who believes posts about 'chemical' drugs should be censored is a fucking moron. Here is ny reasoning:

• All drugs are chemicals. delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol is a chemical in marijuana.
  Psilocybin is the chemical in shrooms responsible for the trip.
• By 'chemical' you appear to be refering to synthetic drugs and assume 'natural' substances are safer. Nicotine is a natural substance, one of the deadlist poisons known to man. Cocaine is also a naturally occurring substance.
• Natural does not mean safe. Synthetic does not mean dangerous.
• You're rejecting what the government says about marijuana, but believing the bullshit they say about other drugs.

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Originally Posted by ilyas

what are you talking about??? who told you about cencorship??

nobody's cencoring noone. it is just a choice. don't choose it.

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The first option in the poll says "They have to be deleted and the posters have to be warned." That's censorship, and I was arguing why it's a bad idea. Moving topics you don't like to a specific forum for "kids not to be taken seriously" is just a milder form of censorship, and would also be a bad idea for similar reasons.

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Originally Posted by Nullific

Anybody who believes posts about 'chemical' drugs should be censored is a fucking moron. Here is ny reasoning:

• All drugs are chemicals. delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol is a chemical in marijuana.
  Psilocybin is the chemical in shrooms responsible for the trip.
• By 'chemical' you appear to be refering to synthetic drugs and assume 'natural' substances are safer. Nicotine is a natural substance, one of the deadlist poisons known to man. Cocaine is also a naturally occurring substance.
• Natural does not mean safe. Synthetic does not mean dangerous.
• You're rejecting what the government says about marijuana, but believing the bullshit they say about other drugs.

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you guys just don't listen do you?? why are you so locked up to that non-existant censorship thing?? is this some kind of fear, or just paranoia ?? don't you even try to think about "your" ideas??

there is something called legalization ok?? and the motto is not "legalize everything, let everybody say like their racist ideas too, wipe out everything that controls our minds". although the points may be proper, that's not the way it is done. people's minds have overdoses too. step by step. otherways we wouldn't be more than a bunch of screaming lunatics..

also your reasons have deep holes. some are incomplete, but unfortunately mostly incorrect.

- from the beginning i was talking about weed. not shrooms, opium, khat, coca, salvia, cacti or whatever. all these things have to be handled differently from weed. but no!! you'll continue to say what is written in your mind, and talk, without listening

- the word "chemicals" has been clearly defined in the other posts. these definitions were found unnecessary for "cannabis.com" at first, but now i sadly see that they weren't even enough.(for you)

- you talk like a very small kid, who has some basic chemistry knowledge, but no deep research and mind. when you say THC is the only thing in mj, then i'd advice you to use "marinol" pills. they have THC in controlled dosages. but you have to face the side-effects. and you'll be addicted too. this seems to me like a great difference between THC and mj. you're just like these rocket scientists, saying they found something, but deep down they don't even know what they're talking about.

- i don't say naturals are safer, i say weed is safe!! it's so simple, that i wrote it this way. why not reading first. another unfortunate ignorance: cocaine is far more different than the coca plant and its leaves. lots of reactions (and additions) take place in extracting and preperation processes. i have to feel sorry about that misinformation, but this is just one of them...

- synthetic means dangerous in drugs (i actually think that they are "always" dangerous, but that's not the point now). manipulation is a neverlasting process, but chemists are already forcing the limits.

- an individual has to hold the "beliefs". everything is not connected to the governments' bullshit. but i'm sure you'll just say "it's bs!!" before holding any information and therefore belief. i don't believe any bullshit about anything, but i'm sure i don't believe your bullshit.