I see my detractors have been having second thoughts as to the veracity of their limitless knowledge. Cowards.
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I see my detractors have been having second thoughts as to the veracity of their limitless knowledge. Cowards.
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
..... say whaaaaaaaaat
yo dude them peeps that be dissin me dont come back now they seen how dum they is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaze420
Stay in school, kid.
shai halud u have anger issues, who gives two shits whos fuckin right or not if those clowns say u cant get fucked up on bong water them goody yay, im not saying u can havent tried bong water last time i heard it tasted like ass so why, and yes ive heard bongs arent good for you, but nothing gets u more shit faced then a good bong,
people chill the fuck out we are all children of the green
peace smokey bob
I don't have anger issues. Do you think I'm seriously getting worked up over a few random morons impugning my intelligence on some messageboard?
I will defend myself, however, and if I enjoy myself a little more than necessary when doing so, I don't consider it a fault.
you fucked those brownies right up and bongs cant be as shitty as you say cause one rip of a bong gets me higher then one off a joint/pipe/one hitter/dugout so im going to continue to use my glass
Bongs are simply inefficient as far as THC delivery goes. The whole point of the bong is to cool the smoke to enable you to take huge hits. So if a bong's smoke has, say, 50% less THC than a joint's smoke, but your bong hit is 4 times as large as a joint hit, then obviously the bong hit is going to make you higher than the joint hit by a factor of 2. That's not the point. I was simply talking about THC extraction per unit of weed, and the bong simply does not deliver as potent smoke as some other methods, such as pipes and joints.Quote:
Originally Posted by 420purplehaze420
And for the record, I like bongs.
Shai Hulud - OK, I'll reply so you can talk all your intellectual english thinking your the shit.......drink your bong water that you haven't changed for weeks and eat brownies with vaporized herb that has been spend...whatever the fuck floats your boat..and Im stupid as fuck, graduating HS with a 2.8 GPA...so shove your salutatorian up your ass cuz it dont mean shit to anyone here at cannabis.com
Maybe if you wouldn't go around insulting people smarter than you (i.e., me), you wouldn't have to deal with the repercussions (me defending myself). Wow, imagine that. You call into question the intelligence of me and my friends, and I give you proof your accusations are baseless, and all you can do about it is whine about the superiority of your time-tested bong methods, which you've been using since you entered your minimum wage job seventeen years ago. I don't give a fuck if you don't know how to speak/write in the native tongue. It's your loss. Just don't get mad at people who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1234abcd
By the way, vaporized herb isn't necessarily "spend." It can have 10-20% or more of its THC content unused, so the foolish thing to do would be to toss it. Excuse me for being economical, but I can't afford at the moment (see, I'm acquiring this thing called a DEGREE--it's great to have for finding these things called GOOD JOBS that make MONEY) to use exclusively "Hindu Kush" or whatever your dealer told you the dro was he gave you.
So anyway, by all means have fun with your life of going nowhere and certainly, have a blast mocking educated people, but I doubt it's going to get you far. The real sad thing is that you probably don't care.
I have read the NORML MAPS study and it appears to be the only study to have been done on the efficiency of various smoking devices. As such, I would not be wanting to claim that the results of that one study are the gospel truth. It is very possible that the study was flawed in some way and produced questionable results and conclusions. In any case, it is never wise to use results from only one experiment to formulate solid theories. As it stands right now there has not been close to enough research performed to conclusively determine what smoking device is the safest or most efficient nor to rank them in any meaningful order (the study itself admits as much). Argue as much as you want, but I think no one will truly know the answer until research is carried out on a broader scale and the results can be analyzed and interpreted in a much more significant manner. The NORML MAPS study itself says that more work must be done and they only tested for (1) solid particulates, and (2) THC, CBN, CBD, when a lot more chemicals do exist in smoke. What is needed is a full analysis done with a chromatograph used to analyze the smoke so that its full composition can be known.
quoting from the study ...
"Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease. Previous studies indicate that water filtration may be quite effective in absorbing some of these [Nicholas Cozzi, Effects of Water Filtration on Marijuana Smoke: A Literature Review, MAPS Newsletter, Vol. IV #2, 1993]. If so, waterpipes might still turn out to have net health benefits."
So let's hope they make it easier for anyone wanting to experiment with marijuana so we can get some hard definitive truths ...
One last thing ... the reason that bong water does contain THC is because the THC itself becomes attached to water soluble tars and solids which do get filtered out by the bong water. THC in its pure form is not water soluble, but when it exists as part of a marjuana plant and is smoked it exhibits some water solubility due to its adherence to the tars.