I don't want them to die! Whats wrong?

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Originally Posted by Cam

Do the plants become more potent if you keep them in the veg stage for longer? Like, because they're in veg and continue to be in veg for so long they produce more THC?

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I wouldn't say they become more potent, but if you let a plant veg longer, lets say 60 days you veg for, the plant will work to its pull potential and produce bigger buds. If you let it veg for only 25 days lets say, the buds won't be as big as the 60days veg. I think either way the buds will be just as potent, the yeild just won't be as big.

I switch to flowering from veg when my plants are about 10inches high(almost a ft). The plant usually doubles in size by the time it's done, which is usually about 2.5ft or so. If I were to switch to 12/12 when my plant were 3ft tall, then the finishing size will be around 6ft or so. Which is obviously bigger than a 2.5ft tall plant.

But you have to remeber, if you want to keep things small, you want to reach for an indica dom. strain, as they grow small and thick. Whatever height your plant is before you switch to 12/12, the original size it is will double, some even triple from their original size. So if you switch to 12/12 when plat is 5inches tall, the finishing height will be around 10-15inches.

Try and get some soil with NO added ferts in it. I feel a nice, clean soil leaves the option open to give your plant any kind of food you want, and you won't risk killing your plant. Just my thoughts.

Hope this helps.

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I wouldn't say they become more potent, but if you let a plant veg longer, lets say 60 days you veg for, the plant will work to its pull potential and produce bigger buds. If you let it veg for only 25 days lets say, the buds won't be as big as the 60days veg. I think either way the buds will be just as potent, the yeild just won't be as big.

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so lets say i kept it in veg for 120 days.. i'll way more bud??? is that the equation? more days = more bud?

I think it's more bigger plant = more buds but generally they grow more the older they get so yeh

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Originally Posted by sheist

so lets say i kept it in veg for 120 days.. i'll way more bud??? is that the equation? more days = more bud?

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You could do that, but it would be hard to maintain, 120days is 4 months, a plant can gorw well over 6ft in that time frame. A plant can only stay in one stage for so lomng before it dies, 120days is too long. A 6ft plant not even in flower yet will give you a finishing height of 12-18ft! That's fine for outdoors, but I don't know how many houses have 12-18ft ceilings.. The thing is, when someone over-vegg's, you get stretched out, lanky, airy buds. In my opinion, I don't find it neccesary to veg more than 60days. Anymore time than that, you're going to have a monster of a plant that will be hard to control, and the buds won't be as compact as some like. They'll be light and wispy. Over-vegging will cause major spacing between each node, and they'll double their spacing by the time flowering hits.

There are a few ways to increase harvest though. If space, like height, is a problem, you may want to consider a scrog, or LST training. You can also top your plant, that encourages more horizontal growth instead of vertical.

ok.. so its
05 days from germination to seedling stage
25 days from seedling to veg
60 days from veg to flower
60 days from flower to harvest?

appx 5months total?

getting confusion fusion here.

it is interpretation.

here is what WHORE and CUNT are....plain and simple...

popped out of the earth......

Vegged 49 days
flowering 56 days

NEXT GROW...

pop their heads outta the ground...

Veg...21 days
Flower 56 days


If using hydro its important to address the seedling as a stage....but as a plant, with indoor grow.....the minute it sticks her pretty green head outta the earth, its a plant and its vegging.

As far as I interpret.

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Originally Posted by sheist

ok.. so its
05 days from germination to seedling stage
25 days from seedling to veg
60 days from veg to flower
60 days from flower to harvest?

appx 5months total?

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No no no. I think you're getting the wrong idea. You see, there are thousands and thousands of different kinds of dope. Some are Sativa, some are Indica, some are a mix of the two, some have more than the other.

Their called "strains". Some are all Sativa, some indica, some a mix of the two. Sativa dom. strains take longer to finish than indicas. This is hard to explain but...it all comes down to what soil you use, what nutes, and general care of the plant. If a person uses soil or nutes not appropriate for growing MJ, then the growing process will be slowed down big time. If you use proper soil and nutes, things will run more smoothly.

EVERY strain is different, they all take different times to germ, veg and flower. What I'm giving you here is an approximation. Here are a few examples:

My first grow I did, was an Afghan cross, I chose to veg for only 3 weeks, because of my height, it then took 60 more days to finish flowering. So it took approx 85 days(3months) from seed to harvest

Second one I did, I vegged for only 2 weeks, it took only 60days to finish flowering. A total of 2.5months

My last one, I vegged for 3 weeks again, this time it took 77days to finish flowering. A total of about 100days(3+months) to finish.

I used good soil, but not the best ferts. If I had chose to use better ferts, I could have got bigger, more potent buds. It all comes down to what YOU chose to grow with. There is NO set time frame for growing. When it is done, it's done. YOU chose when you want to end vegging, to an extent, but, the plant chooses when it's done flowering. YOU decide when it's time to cut, by inspecting the trichs. If you overfeed your plant by accident, you'd have to flush your plant and allow it to heal from the burn, that will cut down your yeild and you'll lose about 7-10days of growing time. Get it now?

ok.... so minus the 25 days?

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Originally Posted by sheist

ok.... so minus the 25 days?

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Man, did you even read our posts? ;)

Okay, this is the last time I'm explaining this. Every MJ plant is different due to different strains, and genetics. Your plant is completly different from mine, mine is completly different than Hard-On's, Hard-on's is different from yours. Every MJ plant is different. Although they all produce buds, they are all different. YOU have to decide when you want to stop vegging, YOU watch, monitor your plants behaviour, and decide when it's done flowering. It's all up to YOU. With my plants, no one knows them but ME, with your plants, no one knows them but YOU.

Forget the time limit and numbers. The only thing you need to remeber is this:

The height of your plant at the end of vegging(eg. 5inches), the plants size may double(eg. 10inches), or triple(eg. 15inches) in height by the time it is done flowering

There is no set time limit on growing. It is up to the grower, YOU, to decide when you want to change the cyle to 12/12, and begin flowering. You monitor your plants everyday, keep them in good health, make sure they don't die, let them flower(bud) and then YOU have to inspect the trichs and decide when you want to flower.

Ok... well then I will flower my babies at 5 inches... that would be a perfect size. 10 inches is good for final product. But first I'm going to top it. What would you say is a good plan? Top after 4th node... wait for it to grow 5 inches or so, then flower?

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