Warning Young People the Army is out to get you

I was thinking about joining the army reserve 4 years ago.I lived right near the barracks when i was in Melbourne and wanted to do a worthwile job to help our country and help indigenous Australians.I went two two interviews and went to alot of seminars there to see the details i was interested.They wanted to train a medic and send them to a country town and study two nights a week and work weekends in remote rural areas and overseas to places like timor back then to look after the locals and help with there needs.I did not do it as my sons father didnt want me to he was very upset about the whole thing he didnt feel the same way as me.Anyways i wish so much that i did not listen to and i wish i did join back then.

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Originally Posted by beatpixie

( i was listening to this on airamerica the other day)

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I got about this far...that's all I needed to hear.

I was active duty Air Force for 4 years....

If you join the military and the thought of going to war never crosses your mind than you're stupid....too stupid in fact to enjoy the excellent educational benefits they offer.

Blue Cat if you think youâ??re doing our fighting men and women justice you're wrong....You make it sound as if the only people who join the military are somehow tricked or mentally deficient. That's insulting... most of the people I encountered in the service are smart, dependable, proud, and courageous individuals. Those "the tricked and mentally ill" are the ones putting there asses on the line every day for people who say they support them but spit in the face of everything they believe in.

This nation still survives and thrives on a 100% volunteer army.

So why don't you take your crusade to a country that needs it like Israel or Korea.

This kinda shit is why I Don't go to the political forum....incidentally that's where this post belongs.

One step ahead of me as usual, Clever.

I think the discipline, education, and the numerous other benefits of military service would do a lot of good for many people here. If I stop right now, I won't end up writing a three page diatribe on social values, so this is it.


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My dad was a recruiter and he told me they have to let gay people join the army.....they however are not allowed to ask the person if they are...the no ask no tell policy.

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Originally Posted by Hydrizzle

OK, but it still is a volunteer army. They don't have to sign the paper if they don't want to.

Anyone who is released from a mental institution is supposedly cured enough to be in society, so they are fair game for recruitment in my opinion.

Recruit people at NASCAR races? Why not! Its a place where a recruiter might expect to find some willing patriotic young men! Bad taste in entertainment, maybe, but still patriotic!

As for the guy with a record, well he would not be in that predicament if he had not commited a crime. Its better to be offered that choice, than to just go straight to jail like you normally would.

Is it that bad that low scoring high school droputs are recruited? They have nowhere else to go, let them actually do something with thier life instead of becoming the trash in the ghettos and trailer parks.

Thats the problem with you liberals, you don't want a draft, yet you also don't want anyone to be recruited into the military. I'm sure if y'all had your way, we would have an incredibly weak ass military and like 70% taxes on the rich, and a free ride to any scumbag who doesn't feel like actually working to get ahead in life.

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Howdy Hydrizzle,

Yeeehhhaaawww !!! Git em ! You took the words right out of my mouth !

I would also like to add,that many join,because they are actually grateful for the many blessings that they enjoy and cherish,and want to give back to their country.

Freedom is never given freely,except from the hands of the liberators of the oppressed..but it's a dear price,that must always be paid in blood..because some Humans will always seek to oppress others,in their quest for power and wealth. The highest form of citizenry,according to the Founding Fathers,is that of the citizen/soldier.

I like the Israeli and Swiss models for service to one's country,the Israeli's have mandatory military service and civil defense participation,the Swiss have mandatory civil defense/militia duty.

Blue Cat is represenative of those who expect Freedom to be handed to her on a silver platter,it must be very confusing to her son,who does realize that Freedom ain't free..and has chosen to serve his country.

Thank God..that there are rough men,who stand ready in the night..while we sleep..who have chosen to defend and protect,our Freedom !

Have a good one !

I usually tell them I'm a practicing buddhist and pacifist, and that to kill another is for me to die. Typically, they don't have the energy to argue all that.

My problem is not with the recruiting, but the method of doing so. Don't accost people in a 7-11 parking lot and ask them if they've ever considered a career in the military. Clearly and plainly advertise the benefits of a military career without verbal or physical badgering and abuse, and you're likely to get all the recruits you need.

The fact is that our "volunteer army" is gradually becoming a "last chance" army. I'm sure there's plenty of intelligent, sound-minded individuals who would fight for the "good cause", they're just pushed away by the negative connotations "recruiters" bring.

Also, "use more quotes".

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Warning Young People the Army is out to get you

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Bluecat, the military is nothing you should hide from. Like Hydrizzle said, you still need to sign those papers before they have you. It really bothers me when i read posts like this. People who will serve or have served deserve your respect. When you make stupid threads like this, all youre doing is undermining our past, present and future soldiers. To anyone that thinks that the soldiers in iraq are fighting for a president get your head out of your ass. If you were to ask a soldier why they are fighting, 9 out of 10 of them will tell you that they fight for their buddys. The last thing on my mind in afghanistan was president fucking dick head bush. The main thing on my mind was my platoon and my own ass...the politics of it all fly out the window when shit hits the fan. I know this sounds alot like most of my posts in the political forum, but once again someone brings up this stupid ass topic and i feel inclined to stick up for MY army and MY friends. If you havent been there or done that, then honestly i think you should shut the hell up because you have no clue what the hell youre talking about.

Bottom line is, do your research before you talk to a recruiter if youre interested in joining. Know what MOS you want and dont forget to ask about the sign on bonus of that particular MOS. Use your head when dealing with recruiters dont be a douchebag and think they will give you the job you want...recruiters are always trying to recruit for MOS's that the army is short on and they will try to persuade you towards those careers. Know what you want to do and make them give you the job you want. Do research into the field you want, know what GT score that job requires etc. Just use your head.

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Originally Posted by Hydrizzle

Anyone who is released from a mental institution is supposedly cured enough to be in society, so they are fair game for recruitment in my opinion.
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First I spent 4 years in the Army, I spent just under a year in Iraq and just got out in early 2004.

First, I spent time in several mental hospitals as a teenager, "parents". I joined the Army later in my life and it is a JOKE! Does anyone want to know what the US Army is really like?

i wouldnt call it a joke at all. what mos were you?