Don't Kid Around in the Classroom

Kuul you are a warrior woman if ever I met one xx

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Originally Posted by kuulbns

a recent study shows that homosexuality is biological, not choice. While I respect Torog's right to his opinion I do not agree with it. Tired of hearing, and trying to ignore homophobes. I'm sorry, you are wrong. I know a young man, grew up being the "real boy", went into the service, did his time, He happens to be gay. He fought it his whole life. He tried religion, and all the bunk. Finally after trying to kill himself because of the shame, (an act he nearly suceeded at) He got some help. Because his Mother did not disown him, he'll cope. Unfortunately his Father told him he should be dead. He's a hard working young man, (works for our gov't by the way), clean, quiet and well mannered. He doesn't smoke, drink, or engage in promiscuity. I happen to Love him, he's my son. He's also a much better person than I am. I don't bash long haired, hippy, pot smoking Grandpa's, (that happen to be republican) Or their non-christian spouses. (I'm a born again Christian). To each his own life. At judgement you will not be asked to answer for anyone but yourself, I will answer, I love my son.

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Then explain why practically every child that gets sexually abused when growing either goes gay, goes criminal, or goes child molester as well? Sure maybe some people are born gay... but I'd say most are gay because of a sexually chaotic childhood. It really is swept under the rug how big of a problem child abuse is. Face it, if your uncle raped you, you have like a 70% chance to rape kids when you grow up.

The only reason conservative talk show hosts are on the air so prevallantly, is because people pay (by watching ads) to listen to them. If you don't believe in capitolism, then you think Bill O'Rieley should be banned. That would just make Stalin proud.

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy kuulbns,

I would like to point out,that I have not yet expressed my opinions or beliefs,about gays in this thread..or even about the article I posted,I presume that you are referring to my previous hateful comments about gays..much of which,I have apologized for,already.

After my daughter was sexually molested as a young girl,at the hands of a male bisexual,I feared that she would grow up hating men,and turn lesbian..praise the Lord--that she did not. As for the study that you refer to,who conducted the study ? Was it amoral,God-less,liberals with an agenda ? I would never dis-own my daughter,even if she had turned to lesbians for a relationship..and if homosexuality,is indeed biological,it is a biological flaw,because humans reproduce heterosexually..not through homosexual acts.

I posted this article,because it highlights the snobbish superiority of liberal,secular elitists,who believe that they know what's best for our children,and seek to undermine parental authority and religious beliefs..and to heck with the consequences of doing such..because they believe that their agenda of teaching tolerance,is more important than the relationship between a parent and child.

I believe that you are right to love your son unconditionally,and that you are doing the right thing..I commend you for it,and I apologize if my words have hurt you..my intent is not to hurt or demean,but to fight for my rights as a parent,to raise my child as I see fit..not the way some amoral,secularist believes that I should . Teaching tolerance in this manner,is denying my child and I,the right to religious freedom and belief,and is a direct intervention between children and their parents.

Have a good one....

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Torog, once again you are blinded by insufficient information! You obviously watch too much Bill O'reilly, and you obviously dont have a first clue about the Real World! How can you ALWAYS blame liberals, when it is the Republicans in power? And you call liberal's 'snobbish', lmfao, that has to be the most controversial statement, because it is the republicans who are snobby, they dont care about the middle working class, they dont care about health care, THEY CARE ABOUT MONEY!! That is why GW and his administration are the wealthiest in HISTORY! So before you label liberals snobbish, i suggest you take a deep hard look at your hero, GW! Then we will see who is the snobbish one! And as for "liberals knowing once best for your children", well that just shows you watch far too much Bill O'reilly, i dont even know what to say to that except, YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG!

I never said O'Rielly should be banned, or that I don't believe in capatalism. lol!! I expressed myself as an individual only. This was a direct conversation with Torog, we have spoken before, we have no personal issues. I am just an observer, not a judge. This is just part of my life.
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Originally Posted by kuulbns

My first husband was a "heterosexual" man that wanted his children raised his way. If that took beating the crap out of a six year old, too bad he was teaching his way. I did eventually make it out with my kids, who were all raised in a heterosexual, church going home. You raise your daughter your way (She must be grown by now) as I'm sure she is perfect. A pedophile is not the same thing as a gay person. Who is better equiped to raise kids, A poor teenage couple, or a financially stable educated couple ? At least my son didn't have kids he wasn't ready for at 16! lolI would much rather see people such as my son raising children than someone with little or no tolerance for others. By the way!! I was brought up to believe that a man with facial hair is a sneaky person with something to hide. A man with long hair was considered to have feminine traits!! LOl, Better get a haircut, or the Holy rollers will tell their kids you're a boogie-man. LMAO ) Torog, I usually ignore a lot of things I don't agree with, let's get off the whole subject. Just think, 50 years ago you may have been debating interracial marriage. ( The study was conducted in The Netherlands, Useing Magnetic resonance to study brain reactions to differant stimuli including human phermones.)

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Howdy kuulbns,

My dad,used to beat the heck out of me and my brother,with a belt,and I usually got beat the most,because I was the oldest,and should have known better..I even took the blame for things my little brother did,to spare him..but it didn't always work. When I became a dad,at 19,I vowed to never beat my child with a belt..and I never did..she got a few spankings,but she was a quicker learner than me and I didn't have to spank her much,at all.

I was raised to believe that men with facial hair,had something to hide and that long hair was girly too..however,when I decided to join the hippy revolution in the early 70's,I began growing my hair and beard out,so that I could seperate myself from the redneck cowboys..I wanted to be non-conformist..my old man didn't like it..but I stuck to my guns..and when the vice-principal told me to shave off my goatee and cut my hair,my old man surprised me and stood up for me. Maybe it was because the he didn't want anyone to tell his son what to do,maybe it also was because the vice-principal was black..after my old man had a talk with him,he didn't ever bother me again. That vice-principal,is now the mayor..lol..funny how things turn out.

I haven't gone to my Church,in a long time,it's a 40 mile round-trip and I can't afford to go anymore..but it would be interesting to see how the folks there would treat me and my Jewish girlfriend..I'm certain that they would have some kind of issue with my long-hair and beard,and my Jewish girlfriend..however,lately right-wing Christians are siding with Israel..so maybe she would be welcome.

I wish nothing but the best,for you and your's..I'm trying real hard to not be so judgemental of other folks and leave things in God's Hands..but it ain't easy.

Have a good one !

Thank You Torog. I appreciate the fact that you try to be open minded. I am not trying to change anyone, or their right to an oppinion. Experiences in life often result in learning experiences, to share that is to try to share what you've learned along the way.
I'm just a simple woman, though I have learned that in life, we all have something about us that others do not like. Whether it's the way you look, religion, or a million other things. I have found that dialogue often leads to understanding, if not acceptance.
Here we have the chance for open dialogue, and I thank you all for contributing.

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Originally Posted by Torog

As for the study that you refer to,who conducted the study ? Was it amoral,God-less,liberals with an agenda ?

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If there is a defect in the methodology then point it out, you can't rely on the simple possibility. And when if you somehow prove that homosexuality is a choice (you won't) then great!

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Originally Posted by Torog

I would never dis-own my daughter,even if she had turned to lesbians for a relationship..and if homosexuality,is indeed biological,it is a biological flaw,because humans reproduce heterosexually..not through homosexual acts.

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Your hierarchical classification of heterosexuality/homosexuality is arbitrary.

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Originally Posted by Torog

I posted this article,because it highlights the snobbish superiority of liberal,secular elitists,who believe that they know what's best for our children,and seek to undermine parental authority and religious beliefs

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If only the last bit were true.

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Originally Posted by Torog

and to heck with the consequences of doing such..because they believe that their agenda of teaching tolerance,is more important than the relationship between a parent and child.

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Does this dichtomoy strike anyone else as completely ridiculous?