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You would have to do some dry runs to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by hickory
It must be understood though that it takes 2-3 days for the body to convert creatine into creatinine and be present in the urine. So any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days prior to the scheduled U/A (as well as any at-home validity checks used during dilution dry runs).
Thx, BT. Figured as much but wanted to be sure there wasn't a quicker/easier way. I ordered an adulteration test kit and requested overnight but I guess it was late enough in the afternoon that it won't ship till tomorrow and will deliver on Monday and I *may* have to pee that day (am hoping to be able to stall to Tue or Wed, but we'll see). If I can do a dry run I of course will, but for now was thinking of this for my plan B in case I can't and am curious on your thoughts.
I tested negative with my home test the other night but I drank a lot of fluids beforehand (about 20 oz of Gatorade followed by 20 oz of water). But as mentioned after drinking almost nothing last night, I also did a first void test just this a.m. and it too came back negative. I have one test left so I'll do another first void tomorrow too and see how that comes out. Assuming that is my 3rd negative home test in 4 days -- 2 of them being first voids -- I would think I might even be ok doing nothing before my screen but I don't want to risk it, so was going to:
1. Start using creatine supplements tomorrow. Nothing crazy, but maybe a little more than the recommended amount.
2. Use some of the dilution tips, but in more moderation: maybe drink 32-48 oz of water or gatorade an hour or two before the test.
3. As mentioned, I'll take a multivitamin an hour before but am really not worried what this does or doesn't do for the color of my void since it doesn't sound like they focus on that as much as creatine level and S/G.
4. Be SURE I don't give them my first void of the day (which would be hard to do obviously if I drink 32-48 oz of ANYTHING before I leave for the test; I'll obviously have to pee at home before I leave).
5. In the test, I will be sure to catch my sample in the cup midstream so they don't get the first urine leaving my body.
What do you think? Obviously a more thorough means of dilution would be better in most cases, but assuming my 3rd test tomorrow morning (my 2nd using first void) is again negative, I would think I'm putting myself at unnecessary risk of needing a re-test if I go all out in diluting. Subbing is a sure fire thing assuming you don't get busted doing it and/or the temp of your sub specimen is ok, but that makes me really nervous and again, given my specific circumstances, seems a bit overkill-ish.
So what do you think of my plan and what would you do in my shoes?
Ok, so I did my third test this morning about 6 a.m., first void after having drunk nothing at all since last night around 7pm. The instructions with the test say a faint line or even a line with a break in the middle is still a negative and I've read enough to know that faint vs. darker doesn't matter. A line is a line. My initial test using first void produced a light but clearly visible line with a small break in the middle: __ __
Not concerned there though because there is a picture of that very thing in the instructions saying it still indicates negative. Only thing that concerns me is that my test this morning, the line was fainter (which doesn't really matter I know...), but also instead of a full line or a full line with a break in the middle, it was only half a line.
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So this was not as comforting as I hoped and I called the help # in the drug test instructions. The lady said what I described would also be considered a negative test, but then asked if I'd used marijuana and I told her yes, 4 puffs in the last 28 days with the most recent being 9/7. Her comments were: "That's not good. THC is released from your fat at different intervals depending on a lot of variables including exercise, etc., so just because you test negative one morning or even two with our test doesn't guarantee you will on another test by someone else later that day or on another day."
And that's nothing I didn't know, but it would SEEM with three negative tests in three days, 2 of them using first voids, that if I test here in a few days and use some mild dilution (32-48 oz of Gatorade and/or water) and start creatine supplements now to get that built up in my system, that I would most likely pass.
Or is this too risky? I *hate* the idea of subbing as it makes me nervous as all hell, but I simply *can't* fail this test!
Any thoughts, suggestions?