I guess the limit is 5? Either that or I just genuinely screwed that one up :P Either way, here is the thirsty Gal.
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I guess the limit is 5? Either that or I just genuinely screwed that one up :P Either way, here is the thirsty Gal.
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yeah, i remember a story where tap water catches on fire if you put a lighter to it. the stickey of the ickey. put that water in your bong. BOOM! the ultimate bong hit! for law...yes those pots look small, time to transplant. ph needs to be better(6.5 runoff or close to it.) the stems are purple and woody which would suggest N def and overall not healthy. take clones for sure. use basic nutes for now. veg and bloom dont get fancy and then add in from there. good luck:thumbsup: i gotta go hump the miss so later:thumbsup::D:D:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Treez81
I'm going to flush tomorrow to make sure that I get all of those salts and other junk out of there. I've been using Blood Meal which is an organic source of Nitrogen, but I also haven't been ferting 'till I make sure I won't be stressing the girlies. Not going to take any clones, gonna be moving by the beginning of the year, so I don't want to transport anything. However, I think when I get set up in my new place, I'm gonna look into cloning and what not. Also, next time I water after the flush I'm going to test my run off, see where that's at. Hopefully in the low-mid 6's. Yet again, thank you for all of the input and suggestions.
P.S. I remember someone saying something about a feeding schedule, I think I'll look into that tomorrow.
[quote=Lawladash]I'm going to flush tomorrow to make sure that I get all of those salts and other junk out of there. I've been using Blood Meal which is an organic source of Nitrogen, but I also haven't been ferting 'till I make sure I won't be stressing the girlies. Not going to take any clones, gonna be moving by the beginning of the year, so I don't want to transport anything. However, I think when I get set up in my new place, I'm gonna look into cloning and what not. Also, next time I water after the flush I'm going to test my run off, see where that's at. Hopefully in the low-mid 6's. Yet again, thank you for all of the input and suggestions.
P.S. I remember someone saying something about a feeding schedule, I think I'll look into that tomorrow.[/QUOT
cool, just keep it basic until you know how the nutes will affect your garden then add in new product. pure blend and fox farms has good products just dont buy the whole line. veg and bloom formula should be fine for now.
Well, I finally got done flushing. I had no idea I had to use so much water, almost 32 gallons! I think the reason I was still seeing the problems was because I didn't flush enough and I just re-activated the nutes that were still there. Monday the bags I ordered will be here and I can start the transplanting process. Gonna have to buy almost $200 in soil for all my darlings, it'll be worth it though. Gonna check out some different nutes at that point too, give them more of a basic regiment. I'll take a picture next weekend after I've got them transplanted and they're looking happy. Can't wait! I can't stress enough how much all of your input and advice have helped me through this process, I truly do appreciate everything.
Well, after washing my beauties, I've noticed even more necrosis where there weren't any before. Is this normal and it's just because I didn't flush earlier? Did I just not do something right, or not do something at all? These aren't new growths, but like I said before, it wasn't there before. I'm going to be transplanting tomorrow into some bigger fiber bags. Gonna do some reading on what I should put into the soil in order to avoid any future problems. Any suggestions that you've found to really help a soil grow would be much appreciated. I'm going to attach the pictures I just took.
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Not even sure if people read this anymore, seems to be a dead time right now with posts. Either way, for those who have been helping me, I transplanted into 5 gallon fiber bags with a mix of FFOF and some Pro-Mix to help with drainage. Picked up a new pH meter and geez! I think I found my problem, the pH went from being too high, to being too low! It was sitting at around 5.2! Either way, I've got a better pH meter and now can accurately test my pH and make sure that everything is good. It's an electronic one so I'll even be able to test my pH with my fert and the run off. Yet again, I would like to thank everyone who has put in their input and has taken time out of their busy schedule to help a newbie grower.
Mods, management and server issues have driven most of the experienced gardeners away, and the rest seem to be more concerned with informing us that they need to bust a nut with their old lady. IMHO, this epitomizes the waning focus of this web site and it's leadership. Since the leadership here would rather ban senior members for speaking-out rather than actually addressing the issues, it's only gotten worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawladash
Are you refering to a soil probe, or a ph pen? (big difference in accuracy and reliability)
The 'organic' and 'natural' nutrients in the FFOF should last about a month. Don't screw it up by ammending it. FFOF should be buffered to within 6.3 to 6.8 ph. If memory serves me, Pro Mix is buffered waaaay low for indoor soil grows. Mixing the two will alter (overwhelm) the buffering capabilities of the FFOF. (ph will dive)
Are you following the bottle directions, or is there an online schedule you're following? Reason I ask, is that some nutrient companies label the bottles as if it were a stand-alone product. (in case you don't use the rest of their products) Following bottle directions under those circumstances can lead to severe ph swings, overfertilizing, lockouts...I'd check online for the weekly feeding instructions.
You can develop serious issues if feeding with every other watering. What happens when you go through a dry spell and have to water daily? (severe overdose) What happens during the humid season, when the soil is too moist to water/feed your plants as usual? (severe underfeeding) In my experience, picking one or two watering days a week is best. For instance, the weekly feeding schedule for Fox Farms Grow Big is 2 tsp per gallon of properly ph'd water, once a week. But I feed 1 teaspoon per gallon of properly ph'd water, twice a week on Mondays and Thursdays. (same weekly quantity, but split between two feeding days) This way, if need be I can water less on non-feeding days, and can use as much or as many watering days as necessary to fill the gap. (if needed...don't water just for the sake of watering)
Any of that make sence?
What nutes are you useing?? looks like to much pk to me buddy !
Hope you don't mind, but I'm going to break your questions down so I can answer all of them.
I'm currently using a pH pen for my water. Milwaukee Instruments - Manufacturers of quality instruments for measuring pH, EC, TDS, ORP, Dissolved Oxygen meters and testers That's the one I'm using now and love it.
Sadly, this is the soil pH meter that I'm using and I've noticed that it really doesn't move at all when I use it for pH. HoldAll Moisture, Light and pH Meter - 6004BC at The Home Depot
Would I be able to use the pen for my soil? I didn't think so, but hopefully I'm wrong.
When I did my mix, I put in ~2/3 FFOF to 1/3 ProMix, will that throw it off that much? If so, what can I do to remedy the situation?
I was following the directions on the bottle, I've been looking around for a good feeding schedule, but I'll have to keep snooping.
As of the last few weeks I haven't been ferting due to the shock they've been going through, but when I did I started out at every other day, then backed it off to once a week once I started seeing problems as I've heard of people over nuting during these times and making things worse. I do see your point in over doing it when I had to go "hard" on days where it got hot and had to water more frequently, and less frequently.
I understood your post after reading it a few times and getting all the juicy information out of it. Also, I'm sad to hear about all the "pros" leaving, I joined this community in hopes of gather a vast wealth of knowledge. Reading earlier posts I thought that's exactly what I was going to get, however, I'm noticing that a lot of that knowledge has fled elsewhere. I'm gonna stay here, but I'm going to also look in other forums/communities for either some of the old timers, or some "new" old timers.
Like always, thank you so much for all of your input. Especially you Rusty, rather than just saying "Hey, your plants look bad, fix it." You actually took the time to read my problems and figure out the possible causes and list them all. This community needs more people like you to come back and be active!
Edit: When I said Pro Mix, I mean the Pro Mix HP, I don't know if that makes any kind of difference.