No more stoned driving -- Colorado is passing THC limits for DUI

if you are in Boulder (especially) make an appointment to visit Clair Levey.

She's tried to be fair in the past. It would be good to scare her off the issue BEFORE the next session.

There is an article in the January issue of Reason magazine advocating abolition of DUI laws in favor of focusing on actual impairment that is particularly relevant to this discussion. Sorry, I couldn't find it online.

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Originally Posted by HighPopalorum

*shrug*

If a reliable test can be devised and sensible limits set which do not penalize responsible marijuana users, I'm all for it. People should not drive when high. When they do so, they put the public at risk and deserve to face a penalty. Sobriety is the proper standard for operating a vehicle.

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Couldn't agree more. As much as I adore cannabis (over 20 years a smoker) I think a lot of the people in this thread are letting their love for the beautiful weed, cloud their judgement. I believe the positive effects of cannabis outweigh the negative and ignoring the negative side makes us as bad as the people/government who peddle lies about cannabis and other drugs. I think we need to be as aware of the negatives as the postives so we can minimise any harmful impact and enjoy the benefits of this wonderful plant.

Drink driving was socially acceptable and legal in my country less than 40 years ago. I have seen film footage of the public being interviewed just before drink driving laws came in and they had very similar arguments against the drink drive laws as those expressed here against DUID laws. I think my favourite line was.... "They are going to spoil a lot of peoples Christmas"

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Originally Posted by PhatJay

Couldn't agree more. As much as I adore cannabis (over 20 years a smoker) I think a lot of the people in this thread are letting their love for the beautiful weed, cloud their judgement. I believe the positive effects of cannabis outweigh the negative and ignoring the negative side makes us as bad as the people/government who peddle lies about cannabis and other drugs. I think we need to be as aware of the negatives as the postives so we can minimise any harmful impact and enjoy the benefits of this wonderful plant.

Drink driving was socially acceptable and legal in my country less than 40 years ago. I have seen film footage of the public being interviewed just before drink driving laws came in and they had very similar arguments against the drink drive laws as those expressed here against DUID laws. I think my favourite line was.... "They are going to spoil a lot of peoples Christmas"

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Smoking weed doesn't impair your ability to drive a car man, most cops on the street understand this as well, I got stopped with a lit joint once and they let me follow them back to the police station because my passenger had warrants.

We certainly don't need stricter DUI laws. I drink a beer sometimes in my car too in the mountains after a long drive, so what? You can drink 3 beers and still be legally under the limit. Cops understand this as well, thats why there is a .08 limit, its not ZERO TOLERANCE.

More to the point, any sobriety test should be based on IMPAIRMENT, not some arbitrary limit set by the government.

the DUI setup is just another big money maker for the criminal justice system.

the limit is .06 for dwai, which isn't a cheap stroll in the park either.

Alcohol, is a major impairer. MJ, really isn't when you are talking about a regular user.

Marijuana Does Not Impair Driving Ability - Asylum.com

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Originally Posted by PhatJay

Drink driving was socially acceptable and legal in my country less than 40 years ago. I have seen film footage of the public being interviewed just before drink driving laws came in and they had very similar arguments against the drink drive laws as those expressed here against DUID laws. I think my favourite line was.... "They are going to spoil a lot of peoples Christmas"

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I love the part in North by Northwest where Cary Grant gets a DUI, and is fined $2 and told to sleep it off after crashing drunkenly into a cop car! Thank goodness our laws and social norms have changed since then.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

I drink a beer sometimes in my car too in the mountains after a long drive, so what? You can drink 3 beers and still be legally under the limit.

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I wouldn't get in a car with a driver who had drunk 3 beers.

I don't advocate drinking and driving, but I know for a fact that I drive better when I am smoking my WEED. It might be because I have been a heavy smoker for 22 years, but the few accidents I've ever had were when I was WITHOUT weed and getting IMPATIENT.

I've never had a DUI (knock on wood). I grew up in Ohio, in some ways the marijuana laws there as more lenient than MMJ states. I had 2 possesion charges under an oz, each time was $100 fine and its a petty offense, meaning no criminal record whatsoever! But they keep your weed and any pipes you may have on you.

I've never been stopped in colorado in 6 years, but I think it would be pretty cool to have the cops let you actually KEEP your weed.

Anyway, in Ohio this sort of promotes a lot of small time dealers and users since the cops only go after growers and large dealers. So you get a lot of shitty mexican brick weed.

Somehow I was lucky when i was in high school in the early 90s, there must have been a lot of local hydro grows because we always had killer weed. Probably why I love weed so much.

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Originally Posted by MtnLionCO

I don't advocate drinking and driving

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LOL! Three posts ago you said you drive around the mountains drinking beer!