Took some clones tonight.

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Originally Posted by gypski

Here are two shots of what I'm trying to clone. You can see they aren't what I would call mature stems, but smaller lower stems on my ladies on another thread. They're not what I'd call perky, but they are rooting. the larger leaves are keeping it going that's why they are yellowing. As they yellow, I remove them. This is week two beginning today. I don't know if you can see the new growth or the smaller growth areas that are alive and kicking!!! Once they take, they will be bushes!!! :pimp:

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wow, nice! You didnt cut any of those excess leaves off to lower transpiration?

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Originally Posted by halfassedjedi

wow, nice! You didnt cut any of those excess leaves off to lower transpiration?

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Nope, I'm just letting them yellow, and once 90% yellow, nipping them off. They've done their job. Now, its up to the cutting. Only the strong suvive and that's all I want. Strong, vibrate, lushy, plants!!! :D

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Originally Posted by gypski

Nope, I'm just letting them yellow, and once 90% yellow, nipping them off. They've done their job. Now, its up to the cutting. Only the strong suvive and that's all I want. Strong, vibrate, lushy, plants!!! :D

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Yeah, I dunno if it was you or someone else, but someone said "the ones that dont survive are wusses" and I thought that was a good attitude.

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Originally Posted by halfassedjedi

Yeah, I dunno if it was you or someone else, but someone said "the ones that dont survive are wusses" and I thought that was a good attitude.

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Just to see what happens, I put four in a humidity dome I made out of a large baggie. I put four on a round plastic lid from a Folgers coffee can and put the baggie over them. Now, I'll see how they respond compared to the four without a dome this second week. I misted them pretty good and the plugs are wet so I won't bother them for a couple days. :cool: :rasta:

hate when people do this, but....BUMP!

OK let me see if I can go at some of this. I've seen your clone pictures. Hmm... not pretty but you will get there. First off, I know you want a heat source but I would not use the ballast. That is just asking for trouble. I know others do it but, well, it's not very good practice. Make sure that dome is tight. You want constant humidity and heat. fluctuations hurt the clone as much as anything. Note that I am no cloning expert. I've only started doing it again after a few years away from growing. Here we go:

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. I think its a 400w HPS with a hydrofarm reflector hood.
.2) Distance from tops? About a foot-2 feet.

Are you using this light for cloning too? You would be better off with some CFLs or a florescent tube of some sort. Too much light for the clones. If you need to use the 400w move it up a few feet or place a piece of white paper over your dome to shield the clones..

.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? I think its a 400w HPS, not sure on the kelvin rating..photoperiod right now is 18/6.

You want to get this right for the clones. You want more blue. Either an MH or better just some florescent tubes. You just want to get them going. Then move them to the big light.

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil. Regular old potting soil with about 1/3 perlite, maybe less.

More perilite please. 2 part soil to 1 part perlite.

10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? I have been using distilled H2O, storebought..ive had to use some tap water the past couple weeks, though. Ph about 7.0 going in.

Is this true for your clones? I believe you want it about 6 until they root but check this.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

OK let me see if I can go at some of this. I've seen your clone pictures. Hmm... not pretty but you will get there. First off, I know you want a heat source but I would not use the ballast. That is just asking for trouble. I know others do it but, well, it's not very good practice. Make sure that dome is tight. You want constant humidity and heat. fluctuations hurt the clone as much as anything. Note that I am no cloning expert. I've only started doing it again after a few years away from growing. Here we go:

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. I think its a 400w HPS with a hydrofarm reflector hood.
.2) Distance from tops? About a foot-2 feet.

Are you using this light for cloning too? You would be better off with some CFLs or a florescent tube of some sort. Too much light for the clones. If you need to use the 400w move it up a few feet or place a piece of white paper over your dome to shield the clones..

.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? I think its a 400w HPS, not sure on the kelvin rating..photoperiod right now is 18/6.

You want to get this right for the clones. You want more blue. Either an MH or better just some florescent tubes. You just want to get them going. Then move them to the big light.

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil. Regular old potting soil with about 1/3 perlite, maybe less.

More perilite please. 2 part soil to 1 part perlite.

10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting? I have been using distilled H2O, storebought..ive had to use some tap water the past couple weeks, though. Ph about 7.0 going in.

Is this true for your clones? I believe you want it about 6 until they root but check this.

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2 parts soil to 1 part perlite is 1/3 dude. perlite, soil, soil. a third of perlite, and two thirds soil.

I dont use the hps for the clones, I use 2 34watt tubes.

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Originally Posted by halfassedjedi

2 parts soil to 1 part perlite is 1/3 dude. perlite, soil, soil. a third of perlite, and two thirds soil.

I dont use the hps for the clones, I use 2 34watt tubes.

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Doh... that fatty hit the spot.

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Originally Posted by bigsby

Doh... that fatty hit the spot.

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:thumbsup: youre always aces anyways bigs

So this was peculating in the back of my mind today. I did a bit of reading to see if my memory is still working. The brain is definitely calcifying...

You want the clone water to be between 5 - 6. Also, try starting with smaller clones with stems @ 3" - 5" and very little leaf area. They don't need a lot of leaf to feed root growth. Smaller/few leaves means less work for the plant while roots take. Plus fix that humidity dome.