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I've not had any problems since I started spraying w/eagle20 and floramite and keeping things separate for a few days.
I think 9/10ths of the clones that were floating around a year ago were infected.
yes, I'll take a cut of the banner for 50, and we'll give her a shower and a room of her own for the weekend, just like any new addition.
y'all should try not to piss on each other in public.
just sayen..
Jason, Thanks a lot for creating this strain and setting it free to the patients, even before the scheduled release date!! I really appreciate it man. I inspected it with a 100x scope and theres no signs of pm or mites. :thumbsup: One question though, theres a question mark on my cup next to where it says BB #3, is this anything to worry about? lol
Copobo, good call, although if I were D9 I'd tell relief center to shove it where the sun don't shine. :D Their probably pissed it was released and they can't make a killing off another mans hard work. And a grand is nothing to a dispensary looking for a rare strain. D9 only did that to up production so all of their patients could get it when they need it, looks like that backfired big time thanks to some greedy dispensaries. I think it worked out for the best though, the weeds been freed! I'm about to also have #5 from my buddy and run some side by side tests. :stoned:
lol ya the ? is on some of the labels because I was not sure which ones I was gonna keep for the next round.. I put ? on the ones I was not sure If i wanted to sell.. thus the ? means it was one of the sexiest cutts out of the batch..Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboALLWD
Thanks for the compliment on BB3
Sooooo D9 is admitting they sold cuts for a grand, and am MMC with zero complaints is saying that D9 had issues with pm. At the same time, there are complaints surfaced at D9, that maybe an employee released unauthorized clones, and those clones had major health issues, and there were money issues at D9.
Damage control starts at D9, Jason complains that his genetics have been released to the general public. Lots of deleted posts and accusations ensue on this forum and others.
Meanwhile, on this site, the mods apparently delete any anti-MMC thread or post. There are issues raised with regards to D9 being compliant with vertical integration, and there are issues raised with regards to D9 repaying investors/growers. Maybe this is the reason the BB is 'released' to other MMC's. D9 claims employee theft, the employee claims he was authorized.
Now, D9 is claiming the 'stolen' genetics/plants are a 'bad' pheno, one which the original grower wishes to now trash, just because that pheno is no longer is his possession alone.
Now, everyone is claiming that there is a clusterfuck at this mmc. ex-employees, ex-growers, customers (MMC's), etc. We have some MMC's standing behind D9, but there hasn't been any valid criticism that releaf is wrong either. Releaf is claiming they spent money on bad genetics and got promised a refund, D9 is saying releaf sucks. I have yet to see a valid review that releaf really lacks in quality, service, or meds. I default to releaf, here.
I really want to spend the money to spread these genes, but this MMC needs to address the concerns presented instead of ignoring and dismissing them. D9 is dismissing the growers at releaf and other concerned growers that have expressed these same concerns.
There is more info damning D9 than there is showing MMC's like releaf being 'amateur'.
I hope, for patients sake, that this gets solved asap. Hopefully the mods let everyone present posts without deletion, and maybe patients can decide where to spend their money.
Good luck everyone.
JeepGuy,
It looks like it has been solved brah! Do yourself a favor and grab one of those banners! I'd like to the think the patients would be more supportive than ever after such an amazing gift being offered for less than the cost of a pack of seeds.
What strains have the releaf guys produced and released to the community? LOL Releaf says he has nothing against caregivers but yet you can listen to him making jokes on some pod cast link he posted about how caregivers are like dealers. I'm sure he meant it completely as a joke though. I tried a couple of their strains out, green crack and some other trendy stuff, it was sub par to what I've picked up from D9 and what I've grown myself with other caregivers genetics. If you haven't checked out D9, and you pick up a banner you owe it to yourself to atleast pick up a sample or two, then you'll know where to spend you're money. :jointsmile:
Anyways, I'd judge a dispensary on what they've done for their patients(fair pricing) and what they've done for the mmj community. I personally received a free 8th from D9 after a misunderstanding about some grow equipment being ready for pick up. Now thats what I call taking care of the patient! They even offered releaf a replacement Banner but no, they want a cash refund, most likely because it was released to the community. They need to grow up, take the replacement and be happy. :rastasmoke: You know they'll still make a killing even with it released!
Thanks again D9 for spreading the love, you have no idea how many people you just made happy, well maybe you have an idea....its gota be in the thousands! :jointsmile:
admitted that I sold the clone for a 1000 bucks? ya we did to several MMCs.. I still do? whats yr point..
Im not discussing stolen genetics.. I've only said the pheno being passed is not the #3.. and that I've seen several bagseed versions latley?
I've never asked for and have no control over the deletion of posts and the deleted posts you speak of Ive never seen?
Your claims that I dont pay investors or I am having trouble with vertical intergration is rediculious.. Read a little closer I didnt release the banner to other MMC and then claim theft.. never said it.. this is the exact type of BS that Im sick of? where do you get this info? Releaf the "Zero" Complaint club lol... Dude our Banners have never once had PM, I've Never Once had PM... Why does any other club have anything to say about me releasing my strain? There is no jucy back story like you want to create.. its just a strain of herb.. Jake has an issue with me he has my cell phone number.. The public slander helps nobody...
the thread is related to Bruce banner cuttings..
Funny the how the stories fly.. haters hate.. slander on..
Don't worry, I've already sent some patients in. I'll have a few cuts quarantined for the whole grow. I'm small scale, so I'm just looking for good genetics so I can start chuckin pollen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboALLWD
Regarding releaf vs. D9. Releaf has posted about going to meetings, hearings, anything caregiver related lately. They've talked to Denver City council members, and they regularly make public statements regarding their operation.
D9, on the other hand, I haven't seen at any MMC/patient related hearing/public meeting etc. Are you grouping releaf in with assholes like stanley/budding health?
It sounds like you have 'inside' info from D9's perspective. I am just a patient. I don't know if releaf asked for new clones or a refund, are you an employee or something?
Should we compare patient notes or something? I haven't been to D9 lately because of all the drama. Are you ignorant of releaf's primary patient plans? Do you think you are lucky that you can demand refunds? That should be an option anytime, not just at D9. Do you think other MMC's would deny requests for refunds? What makes D9 so awesome now that they've been forced to release their best genetics?
First, the mods at other forums have asked you publicly if you want any other posts deleted. The fact that other forums moderate criticism is despicable. Are you doubting the google-fu of searching cache's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta9Caregivrs
Thank you for addressing the concerns of your primary patients.
With that said, I have questions.
You are publicly stating the Bruce Banner plant material that is not in your possession is in fact the pheno '#5', not the 'better' pheno #3 that you 'protected'? So your employees sold a B grade BB? Why would you carry a B grade plant? Am I incorrect? You seem to be inconsistent.
What's the difference between the $1,000 BB#3 you sold MMC's this summer during your 'financial crisis' and the $50 BB#3 you are selling now? Surely you realize that your customers have seen comments online that reflect concerns regarding your internal 'issues'. Why the increased price? Just because you knew MMC's would pay for good genetics? Ignoring issues raised only creates more questions.
I can appreciate the fact that you don't want to discuss potentially negative issues, but please don't anonymously trash my actions. If you'd like to create a thread discussing what things like 'slander' and 'libel' mean, go ahead.
http://boards.cannabis.com/colorado-...ml#post2130580
http://boards.cannabis.com/colorado-...ml#post2131080
This was gleaned from a 4 second google search.
I don't where to start with you, but enough with the 101 questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeepGuyCO
I just read the thread, and saw a lot of amatuer posts by releaf and nothing but reasonable posts by D9, theres a post mentioning replacing the cut or clone. Releaf is probably nothing compared to budding health but you have to be blind not to see the negativity in so many posts by them towards caregivers. I'm not the only one that's seen it. However I don't think it's so much Releaf as it is the young guy behind their pc. He said it himself that he's not the owner and doesn't even make a lot of money. lol I believe he said something about being the manager over there.
Who says anyone was forced to do anything? Tell me who forced D9 to spread the genetics, did someone hold them up at gun point threatening to spray bullets if they didn't set the strain free? I think they were already awesome on top of having bred a Co Caregivers Cannabis Cup winner, but now that everyone has it, they are SO AWESOME.Quote:
What makes D9 so awesome now that they've been forced to release their best genetics?
"Behind every sucessful person there is a pack of haters"
Patients shouldn't be allowed to ask questions of their potential caregivers? wtf.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboALLWD
I'm not going to cheer releaf anymore. I only say the strain was 'forced' to be released by D9 based on threads I remember reading but might have been deleted on other forums. I'll happily eat my words if you can prove me otherwise.
No guns, just an employee selling bruce banner genetics, and jason claiming theft/unauthorization.
I'll continue to dismiss you as a D9 fanboy, and you can dismiss me as someone who has an intimate knowledge of both places.
Good luck. Like you say, 'haters gonna hate'. It will be interesting to see which MMC's stick around, and which shut their doors.