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You pretty much summed it up there, being legally indoctrinated is not ALWAYS easy or attainable. These "illegals" that come up here, despite their circumstances, and perform the jobs the average American feels they are above doing are MY HEROES! Yea, Trip and itoldyaso, MY HEROES!Quote:
Originally Posted by lve2smk
Talking about I have a lot to learn... everyone has a lot to learn... and sorry I don't like learning myself to the idiotic beliefs pumped by hateful people.
Hate? Its LAW. You either abide by it or You Dont come here. Thats the line in the sand. LAW< Get used to it. Why cant mexicans fix their own political problems? Why cant they Start their Progressive/Liberal Movements down their and have their own revolution if they dont like the way things are?.......Let me get this straight......They Flee mexico to come here ILLEGALY-UNWANTED When OUR NATION(USA CITEZENS, Even alreay legal Mexicans) cant Support More Immigration and THEY have the NERVE to DEMAND that WE CHANGE FOR THEM??? They DEMAND our nation is the PROBLEM....where a bunch of White Racist Farmer/extremeists Because We Wont change FOR THEM?...Boohoo they do Laborous jobs...like we all dont.. Hell Our children Can have those Jobs start them off Strong and teach them the values of hard work...Thats what I did when I was young, Thats What everyone I know did. IF YOU DONT LIKE STATE LAWS and THE WAY THE USA is Then YOU GO FIX THE SESS PIT YOU FLED FROM....dont demand the neighbors take out your trash...You should be grate full you Got In Even illegaly and have that hard Job....<Hell its 10x better than that shit hole you lived in or you wouldnt of fled from it. And We still took you on with our TAXES....Thats right WE WORK to feed your kids and cloth them...UNWANTED of course because you didnt do it legally...You didnt learn about the values and customs of AMERICA...Then They have the nerve to say we are the BAD GUYS...Im going to work every day to fuckn Feed your damn kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocJTre2
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Originally Posted by Trip06
How odd.....everytime the Illegal Alien racket starts blubbering ( and by illegal alien racket i mean the unions) about they are gonna have a day of protest and not go to work.....NOTHING changes and the economy remains the same. Look at Arizona......legal Americans stepped RIGHT in and filled those jobs left when they passed their law. Not to mention the state hasn't suffered even remotely from the nanny state leaders of California (who borrow 40 million $ a day)calling for PRIVATE buisness's to boycott arizona. And Jan Brewer was re-elected HANDS DOWN in arizona......and the Democrats were CRUSHED in that state in the midterms by a huge hispanic population. Gee......I wonder why:) Sure wasn't because they thought their states new laws and leaders were wrong. Arizona's leaders received political capital when they smushed the Dems on Nov. 2nd in Arizona.....and now they are gonna spend it.
It all boils down to this intitlement attitude the illegals have....(see my above post illegal suporters for my reasoning) They are Jealous That Legal Americans have more than them..... Its like a neighbor whos lost their home in a tornado(for example) and your family has tooken them in despite your unwant and trouble of your own families losses....But then they have the NERVE to DEMAND they get your lazy Boy Chair or can use your swimming pool or You need to buy more beer.... See what im getting at...
You two have a one sighted view of things. Where in the hell do you see Arizonians taking the plantation or the janitorial positions that Mexicans used to occupy? The law did affect the state from spending to travel there is too much evidence out there, I dont know where you get your news from islnbrn, but you have to rethink what you read. It was a political move Brewer did because latinos are turning overwelmingly democratic. Trip you also sound like a hypocrite you are telling others to respect every law that is put out there, yet you are willing to ignore the law everytime you get a bag of weed or drinked alcoholic beverages as a minor. If a law was established that prevented you from going to fastfood places would you follow it because it's the Law? Are you that good of a citizen that you abide by every rule? Trip you make everything sound so easy, do you understand the cirmumstances mexico is in, or are you to blind to see that bringing peace to mexico is not possible when you have greedy people looking for profits to get their drugs to the U.S. If you don't believe people have tried to bring peace, there was just a big student march in mexicos deadliest city asking for peace and a police and military reform. The real problem isn't socialism, anchor babies, or illigals its capitalism at its core because it makes people greedy. What you two are bringing into the plate is hate, you can't stand others benifiting from what you were lucky to have, I only wish that you lived in Mexico for a while to straighten out you greedy selfs.
Also, by Brewer wining the election showed the stupidity of Arizonians because they are willing to elect a candidate that can't and will not debate anymore, so she resorts to use the Sharon Angle manouver, sending proxys to do her fighs for her.
The economy in Arizona has not suffered WHAT SO EVER from any canceled company trips or massive buisness convention cancelations. Where those companies that did boycott, others just stepped happily in and took their tee times right from under them.
Sorry bro.....perhaps you don't personally like the law.....but you don't live in Arizona and you dont vote in arizona so it matters not.....more and more states will continue to pass laws like this, especially after the midterms. Holders DOJ wont be together much longer thats for sure.
And sorry. THE VOTERS in Arizona is what count.
Jan Brewer rides Arizona's immigration law to victory
"You two have a one sighted view of things. Where in the hell do you see Arizonians taking the plantation or the janitorial positions that Mexicans used to occupy? The law did affect the state from spending to travel there is too much evidence out there, I dont know where you get your news from islnbrn, but you have to rethink what you read. It was a political move Brewer did because latinos are turning overwelmingly democratic. Trip you also sound like a hypocrite you are telling others to respect every law that is put out there, yet you are willing to ignore the law everytime you get a bag of weed or drinked alcoholic beverages as a minor. If a law was established that prevented you from going to fastfood places would you follow it because it's the Law? Are you that good of a citizen that you abide by every rule? Trip you make everything sound so easy, do you understand the cirmumstances mexico is in, or are you to blind to see that bringing peace to mexico is not possible when you have greedy people looking for profits to get their drugs to the U.S. If you don't believe people have tried to bring peace, there was just a big student march in mexicos deadliest city asking for peace and a police and military reform. The real problem isn't socialism, anchor babies, or illigals its capitalism at its core because it makes people greedy. What you two are bringing into the plate is hate, you can't stand others benifiting from what you were lucky to have, I only wish that you lived in Mexico for a while to straighten out you greedy selfs.
Also, by Brewer wining the election showed the stupidity of Arizonians because they are willing to elect a candidate that can't and will not debate anymore, so she resorts to use the Sharon Angle manouver, sending proxys to do her fighs for her. "
^First off DONT Spread your Socailism BULLSHIT to me....Your even More deluted than what I tought at first...Socialism Is what it Is..It transfers the Wealth up to the top...Thats Exactly WHY mexico is the WAY it Is...My views are sighted??? If peace aint working down south maybe they need to Forcefully take back their country......THERES A THOUGHT........WE HAD TO FUCKING DO IT TO THE BRITISH...yeah it was a while back...So fucking what..The sooner they get cracking on that shit the better...And Whats this BS with Americans wouldnt work on plantations or Become Janitors? I just said Theres Million of JOBLESS LEGAL AMERICANS(Even hispanic ones) who could fill those Jobs Once the INVADERS are stopped and deported. How we going to Even Beable to give those jobs out to more Mexicans IF THE COUNTRY IS FALLING APART BECAUSE WE CANNOT SUPPORT ANY MORE IMIGRATION.............WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEMS FIRST AND THEN MAYBE 20+ YRS DOWN THE LINE WHEN THINGS MAYBE ARE STABLE we can think of letting more People in...........Instead of BRINGING DOWN EVERY ONE ELSE to raise them up....We worked hard for our shit. And as for your FAIL argument of Mixing up the issue with Pot LAWs.....Where talking about a Country heading twards a Collapse and Anarchy Over being able to smoke a lil weed.......I think The countries a lil MORE important right now YOU MORON....Socialism isnt the problem LULZ you are so ignorant of history its unreal...Do you Know how many WORLD WARS the USA has SENT 100,000's of US Troops To fight and DIE for AGAINST Socialism to Give you the right of Freedom In this country?? MY GOD Maybe you should ask the millions of russian Pheasants that were starved out/ genocided On behalf of socialism. Or the JEWS? Or the Millions of chineese Under Mao? Places where they actively throw you in prison labor camps and work you to death litteraly....Or publicly execute you to make an example of you....AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO PREACH THAT SHIT HERE? ANSWER ME ONE PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE SOCIALISM WORKED? My God I pitty All the service men and Women who have to put up with holding back from strangling you kinda people....
"bringing peace to mexico is not possible when you have greedy people looking for profits to get their drugs to the U.S."
^ Maybe the Mexican people Need to Litteraly Go and take care of the Shit themselves.
Keep your hands off MY money. And If that aint enouf they want our guns too..Hell the Mexican president came here to OUR congress to tell them ITS our FAULT ALSO that the drug cartel violence is because of our firearm freedoms. Hillary Clinton signed the UNITED NATIONS SMALL ARMS TREATY because of countries like MEXICO. OMFG...All I gotta say Is If anyone comes to take from me(Money, My firearms, my Land) in anyway they arent gonna be happy.
wow what a crock of shit that is. first i will address the whole"it's not easy or attainable to become legal".your right it's not easy NOR should it be.it's called trust it's called weeding out the freeloaders too. it's not easy for all of us that were born and bred here yet you think we should be giving out freebies as they cross the boarders.Quote:
Originally Posted by DocJTre2
as far as the whole comment about americans being to good to do the jobs of the illegals thats another big pile of bullshit there too.many americans do those job and ten times more on top of that.the truth of the matter is not about being to good,but rather that these illegals will come and do these jobs for pennies on the dollar.not because they are heros or better than anyone else,but because they know they are ILLEGAL and also they will live 10,20,30+ to a house.they can get away with way more than any american could every even think about doing.if an americans tried to live like that we would have our kids taken and be locked up for abuse. so try using your brain next time b4 typing shit in a half assed "all i know is they be my hero"bs.:cool:
whats odd is they come to america yet all they talk about is mexican pride and viva mexico, yet they come here,humm.that to me tells me everything i need to know.for 1 it tells me that they are not coming here to be americans they are coming here to use and rape from america what they can, and send it back home.they don't come to help build a nation they come to get handouts.guess thats why america and every other nation has laws in place to become a citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trip06
i know if i had so much pride in my country i won't want to leave it but rather start a grass roots effort to fix what was wrong with it.but that would mean having to use ones brain...thats a big judgement call i guess.
And they then have the nerve to wave that flag here........for their pride.......Like wtf are you Proud of? you left that SHIT hole to come to a better place(unwanted) and THEN DEMAND then WE change for you....WTF that is the most backward FUBAR shit I ever heard....Then they get pissed when they here aboutThe Minutemen/militias standing up to go enforce the border crisis because our FEDERAL government WONT do one of the FEW things its SPOSED to do....They then call us racsist white extremists...ITS LAW...
I think its time for American Citizens to start picking up the slack and taken matters into our own hands...I wounder what kinda country our grand kids are gonna grow up in If this shit continues..