contacting co-ops with overage?
I just downloaded a application from apple called legalmaps that shows all the dispensaries in all the states that have them:D
For all you with non appple products:D enter your zipcode and youll find all the dispensaries their adresses and phone ##
checkout �¸ Medical Marijuana Dispensary & Cannabis Club Directory �¸
contacting co-ops with overage?
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Originally Posted by VapedG13
I just downloaded a application from apple called legalmaps that shows all the dispensaries in all the states that have them:D
For all you with non appple products:D enter your zipcode and youll find all the dispensaries their adresses and phone ##
checkout
�¸ Medical Marijuana Dispensary & Cannabis Club Directory �¸
That is so cool.:cool::thumbsup: Thank you.:pimp:
contacting co-ops with overage?
contacting co-ops with overage?
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legalmaps that shows all the dispensaries in all the states that have them
funny you put this up, yesterday when i was looking for all the places i listed to know about, thats where i got the names from. cool ass map. i didnt know there was so many around here. but what is the diference between a co-op and a place that is just a delivery only? how does that work? obviously its the dif between being able to walk in and pick up your meds and having someone bring it to you but then isnt that just a patient selling to another patient? i thought this was a no no? how are they legally delivering only?
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My exact point, yet, in leo's mind a non-profit means " nothing on top of what you paid for the [product] PERIOD
so does this mean technicaly that your not supposed to charge anymore then what it cost for you grow it? because unless your only doing outdoor and just dont give a shit how your plants turn out or if they even survive, it cost a decent amount to get started. all us indoor growers know that it takes things such as soil, nutes, electricity, containers, and even as far as saying grow tents to grow a plant, and because electricity alone these days is enough to say "hey i need atleast $250 an oz(just using a number) to cover my expenses" it seems like they dont want to look at it that way. seems like they just want to assume that no matter what, your trying to make a profit and seems like no matter how much you argued your point in court you would probly not win in the end just because we all know how fucked the system is.
contacting co-ops with overage?
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Originally Posted by G13budsmoker
funny you put this up, yesterday when i was looking for all the places i listed to know about, thats where i got the names from. cool ass map. i didnt know there was so many around here. but what is the diference between a co-op and a place that is just a delivery only? how does that work? obviously its the dif between being able to walk in and pick up your meds and having someone bring it to you but then isnt that just a patient selling to another patient? i thought this was a no no? how are they legally delivering only?
so does this mean technicaly that your not supposed to charge anymore then what it cost for you grow it? because unless your only doing outdoor and just dont give a shit how your plants turn out or if they even survive, it cost a decent amount to get started. all us indoor growers know that it takes things such as soil, nutes, electricity, containers, and even as far as saying grow tents to grow a plant, and because electricity alone these days is enough to say "hey i need atleast $250 an oz(just using a number) to cover my expenses" it seems like they dont want to look at it that way. seems like they just want to assume that no matter what, your trying to make a profit and seems like no matter how much you argued your point in court you would probly not win in the end just because we all know how fucked the system is.
You do make a point and I agree. Patients need access to medicine. The law irresponsibly didn't create an avenue for this except the ability to grow your own, so the patients took it upon themselves. And NOTHING IS FREE. It cost somebody something, somewhere. I think the local market will set the going price in the long run and it will be a range, not a set number depending on grade and quality. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by G13budsmoker
funny you put this up, yesterday when i was looking for all the places i listed to know about, thats where i got the names from. cool ass map. i didnt know there was so many around here. but what is the diference between a co-op and a place that is just a delivery only? how does that work? obviously its the dif between being able to walk in and pick up your meds and having someone bring it to you but then isnt that just a patient selling to another patient? i thought this was a no no? how are they legally delivering only?
so does this mean technicaly that your not supposed to charge anymore then what it cost for you grow it? because unless your only doing outdoor and just dont give a shit how your plants turn out or if they even survive, it cost a decent amount to get started. all us indoor growers know that it takes things such as soil, nutes, electricity, containers, and even as far as saying grow tents to grow a plant, and because electricity alone these days is enough to say "hey i need atleast $250 an oz(just using a number) to cover my expenses" it seems like they dont want to look at it that way. seems like they just want to assume that no matter what, your trying to make a profit and seems like no matter how much you argued your point in court you would probly not win in the end just because we all know how fucked the system is.
So as an example above, the 250 x 16(because they use 1 lb. per plant equations..this means a lb. cost you this to grow..$4,000 ....um, wrong!!!
See the problem here yet?? if 15 plants as they claim has the "potential" of producing 1 lb. per plant...get the picture they are using to look at...
So here lies the problems....say you spend 10 grand for your indoor grow setup...do you get to use this in your equation??
So if it cost you 10 grand, divide this # out = to your total amount produced...that is your cost of production....now divide that out per oz...
Tis the numbers leo uses for cost vs. profit margin...it didn't cost 250 bucks per oz. or 4000 per lb to "produce".....more like 250-800 per lb...outdoor vs. indoor...reality.
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Originally Posted by jamessr
So as an example above, the 250 x 16(because they use 1 lb. per plant equations..this means a lb. cost you this to grow..$4,000 ....um, wrong!!!
See the problem here yet?? if 15 plants as they claim has the "potential" of producing 1 lb. per plant...get the picture they are using to look at...
So here lies the problems....say you spend 10 grand for your indoor grow setup...do you get to use this in your equation??
So if it cost you 10 grand, divide this # out = to your total amount produced...that is your cost of production....now divide that out per oz...
Tis the numbers leo uses for cost vs. profit margin...it didn't cost 250 bucks per oz. or 4000 per lb to "produce".....more like 250-800 per lb...outdoor vs. indoor...reality.
well what if it didnt cost me anything to produce 15 lbs then? what if i charged a "labor" fee for my "time" spent? its the same thing as working at mcdonalds to "produce" a cheeseburger for someone, and at that point it "could" cost that much to produce.
we treat it like weed can only be made by manufacturing it.
well we all know that weed has been here as long, if not longer then we have been here(who was "paying" to produce it before we were here?).
all that is "IF" your 15 plants produce a lb/plant. and at that point your way over your limit(medically), so wtf? they look at it dumb, the only way your producing a lb a plant(and only 15 at a time) is with like 5000W+(just a guess) in lights. and that wouldnt even be considered a "medical" grow, at that point, its a "comercial" grow. seems like they need to redefine things.
contacting co-ops with overage?
Redefine...absolutely...but, the flip side of that coin is damages for taking the "potential" from you as a legislative right to your medicine as a crop or other valuable items after it is "removed" from growing and in the drying processes.i.e. curing..or already "processed" medicine...wa. state tree/trespass laws...by using their value, not yours. When you use yours, it is like a cow to you...you milk it for it's health resources.:pimp:
The jury awards it's normal "proven" value, and the judge is mandated to increase that by 3...gives a thief something to think about next time.:D:stoned::mad:
All the caselaw and dea regs say "POTENTIAL" ,not actually what it did produce..
the words in the csa say this "we treat it like weed can only be made by manufacturing it". because thats how it's done.
contacting co-ops with overage?
Main Entry: 1man·u·fac·ture
Pronunciation: \ˌman-yə-ˈfak-chər, ˌma-nə-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Medieval Latin manufactura, from Latin manu factus, literally, made by hand
Date: 1567
1 : something made from raw materials by hand or by machinery
2 a : the process of making wares by hand or by machinery especially when carried on systematically with division of labor b : a productive industry using mechanical power and machinery
3 : the act or process of producing something
Growing in the wild and dying in the wild with no human input...is not manufacturing nor production covered by the csa...
What is though, humans cultivating, manufacturing, processing etc. cannabis L. sativa...it's all about semantics in the system, tamato,tomoto, potato, patato..
contacting co-ops with overage?
all im trying to say is how people are taking things way to seriously these days and how is it any different then selling "hay" from your property, or like all those people you see on the side of the roads everywhere selling fresh oysters that they caught....weed grew here all by its self on planet earth without our help at all, so it does grow wild, weed means grows wildly remember. we did not create weed. that makes it not a drug. define drug "logicaly", that is something man made period. weed is as natural as everything else, but because its something everyone would "enjoy" its not ok, so they make it illegal, wtf.
think, you can go buy a case of beer, which is a drug(just happens to be one of many of the governments legal "people killers", that is man made and manufactured) , and turn around and sell it to your friend, as long as he is 21 an older of course, and its perfectly fine-? to who?. but i cant walk out in the woods picking wild blackberrys, happen to find wild marijuana plants, and enjoy the plant for what it was put here to be used for and enjoy it with a friend, just like a berry? who is one to judge what another man decides to ingest anyways. and another one, cigarettes(another man made human killer), they are a drug. its a psycological drug. dont think so? why is it you hear everyone saying that they "WANT" to quit, but just cant? thats a psycological drugs side effect. addiction. but those are perfectly fine for a human to consume to because our government needs to regulate the population a bit. well i think its time they loosen the grip from around our fucking necks if they ever want shit to be peacefull in the world. dont you realize how fucking nuts people are these days? they are treating us like fucking monkeys in a damn cage and were just putting on a show for the high powered wealthy fucks when we go to work for them. they pay us to work, but then we have to pay it all back to them if we want to live in todays standards. how is that life? what ever happened to one protecting his own and living freely?
wow im sorry, that 420 J realy got me thinking bout shit after reading a few threads. so sorry i rambled.