Natural Spider Mite Control

Well, I'm sorry you would be very concerned putting all natural items on your plants. Personally, I'm not that in to poison, not that you were promoting them, I'm just sayin...

I have no idea what this means : "Please do not confuse Newbies with bizarre information like we have been getting posted recently." I'm sorry sir, but that is not bizarre information. The co2 eradication method is endorsed by people such as Ed Rosenthal, but he's just some whack job, right? And the natural method I listed was written by nobody special that I know of, but it still works, and doesn't harm your plants.

I agree prevention is key, but sometimes people just get into a jam for one reason or another and need a way out. In fact, the formula listed is used for perimeter control, as the quote mentioned, and as I mentioned from personal experience.

Mr Mackey

Just because it's natural, does not mean it won't damage the foliage if improperly used. What's the ph of the solution, btw?

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Originally Posted by MJisBadMmkay

I'm sorry sir, but that is not bizarre information.

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Not bizzare, just over-complicated, easy to screw-up and overuse, and there are other methods beyond the Rosenthal miracle goop. Is he an expert...? Of course. Are there easier methods without having to measure-out an easy to screw-up concoction...? Yup.
Anyway, I'd be more concerned putting all that crap on my plants, than the no-pest strips, or neem, or Pyrethrum. Unless you have planned on correcting the problems the cure could cause anyway.

It's of course recommended to use caution when using insecticides, but being not only combative, but anal in someone elses thread is not acceptable. For instance, this bullshit statement:

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Originally Posted by MJisBadMmkay

"..not that you were promoting them, I'm just sayin..."

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is unnecessary and unwarranted. If he wasn't promoting them, where do you get off implying he does? It's a chicken-shit tactic. Regardless, the chemical bonds in the insecticides break down, usually after 12 hours, and are just as easily rinsed-off as the Rosenthal solution. To assume yours is the best cure available is funny. Perhaps another tool in the toolbox, but there's other tools available.

Could be that the Rosenthal solution works great. But likely I'll never know, as I use comon sense and no pest strips. They work fine for mites and gnats, among other things.

Be careful with CO2. It can kill more than bugs and plant tissue at higher concentrations.

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Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome

Just because it's natural, does not mean it won't damage the foliage if improperly used. What's the ph of the solution, btw?


Not bizzare, just over-complicated, easy to screw-up and overuse, and there are other methods beyond the Rosenthal miracle goop. Is he an expert...? Of course. Are there easier methods without having to measure-out an easy to screw-up concoction...? Yup.
Anyway, I'd be more concerned putting all that crap on my plants, than the no-pest strips, or neem, or Pyrethrum. Unless you have planned on correcting the problems the cure could cause anyway.

It's of course recommended to use caution when using insecticides, but being not only combative, but anal in someone elses thread is not acceptable. For instance, this bullshit statement: is unnecessary and unwarranted. If he wasn't promoting them, where do you get off implying he does? It's a chicken-shit tactic. Regardless, the chemical bonds in the insecticides break down, usually after 12 hours, and are just as easily rinsed-off as the Rosenthal solution. To assume yours is the best cure available is funny. Perhaps another tool in the toolbox, but there's other tools available.

Could be that the Rosenthal solution works great. But likely I'll never know, as I use comon sense and no pest strips. They work fine for mites and gnats, among other things.

Be careful with CO2. It can kill more than bugs and plant tissue at higher concentrations.

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I wasn't saying Rosenthal came up with the spray solution, I have heard him mention the CO2 enrichment to get rid of mites. I said, "The co2 eradication method is endorsed by people such as Ed Rosenthal", and followed it with "And the natural method I listed was written by nobody special that I know of, but it still works, and doesn't harm your plants."

I also never said mine was the best method, the whole part in blue was a quote, as mentioned. I only gave testimony to the fact it works, and works well. I promise you I have eradicated them from plants with no harm done, even in delicate seedlings. Every since I started using it as a perimeter spray, I haven't even seen a mite, which is why I said that I agree with prevention, just like WashougalWonder.

I absolutely did not mean anything by this: "Personally, I'm not that in to poison, not that you were promoting them, I'm just sayin..." I honestly meant it. I did not feel like he was promoting the use of poison in all instances, and I was just mentioning that I don't like the use of them if at all possible either. Honestly, I felt like WashougalWonder (sorry to talk about you like you're not in the room lol) was coming after me with the "don't confuse the newbies" comment and really I felt like the "if you have mites, your not doing your job right" comment was a little harsh. But it's cool, I harbor no ill will, and I understand how easily miscommunication can happen on forums. Even you said "could be that the Rosenthal solution works great. But likely I'll never know, as I use comon sense and no pest strips." Maybe you're implying I have no common sense, maybe you're not. Just another example of how things can be taken wrong.

Look, I wasn't trying to step on anyone's toes, I just came across this thread and had something to offer... so I thought.

I'm sorry if anyone, especially WashougalWonder, was offended.

-MM

No, not offended, just concerned that my thread on the simplicity of mite control is getting wailed by many different methods toeradicate mites.

Yes, I do state how to get rid of them, one of an indeterminable number of different methods, but my whole point is prevention by far is better than having to get rid of the buggers, because as simple as it may sound, it is not so simple. You get an infestation and usually before it is noticed it is too late.

I rarely advocate adding much of anything to our grows, including nutes.
Please lets just make good medicine. :pimp:

My statement about common sense and no pest strips was actually to point-out the tools I have in my toolbox, not to do with anything you may or may not be missing in yours. I use common sense and a little bit of experience when I approach my grow room, to keep from going overboard with every process and technique.

Most in here are growing their meds. (this is a medical cannabis site) and I am deeply aware of the hazards of some chemicals I've seen folks use. From steroids and hormones, to heavy metals and poisons. But just because a product is 'organic' does not mean the product can not be harmful, especially if improperly used. The no-pest strip itself never comes in contact with hands, equipment, or the plants themselves.

And I never said that you said your recipe was the best, but you seemed to be inferring it was, at the expense of the other info in the thread. To me, it's easier to resolve the conflicts pronto, than correct the problems that arise later-on when plants are suffering or dying, ya know...? :jointsmile:

I bought a big bottle of Floramite SC not relizing I need so little, 1oz makes 20 gallons of spray/dip.

I was hit hard with mites, tried lady bugs and premixed sprays without a dent.

I'd prefer non chemical, so I descided to used this, its out of the plants within 28 days.

Use it once them to knock the crap out of them and start over. Now I use, Neem oil and ladysbugs as preventive. I've been good now.

This stuff is the nuclear bomb for mites, and its easy on the plant!

I have 1oz bottles up for grabs 17$ , feel free to PM me
Local Garden shops sell 1oz bottles for 40$

I spray Neem a few times per month. Then if I start to see any bugs at all, I just kill their asses with CO2.

I skimmed over something above that was mentioned about using CO2 as a pest control and I will confirm it. It works.

All you do is, crank up your CO2 to over 3,500+ ppm during the night cycle, then let your room just saturate in it for about 4-6 hours, with all ventilation off. You leave your oscillating fans on, but ventilation off. I usually do this for 2 days in a row, then by the third day, those suckers are DEAD!!

This scares some people, because if you were to have your CO2 at that high of a level with the lights on, you'd kill your plants real quick. But since the lights are not on, Photosynthesis is not happening, therefor your plants are not breathing in the lethal levels of CO2. But those damn bugs sure are. Then you just have to wait about a week and do it again, just in case there are any hatched eggs.

But like you said.... Prevention is the key.

Oh.... and if they've gotten out of control. Shop Vacuums work great for sucking those little bastards right off of your plants. You'll probably lose a leaf or two, but you put a HUGE dent in their little operation.

I went to buy a pest strip and it said it should not be used in areas like kitchens. It seemed to me that meant it can get into the food (plants?) and then be injested. That warning scared me off of buying one. I love the ease of using one and that they really work well, but it seemed dangerous. What does everyone think about that warning? :stoned:

Hi I am on my second lot of babies, my first were an easy success however my second lot seem to of developed spider mites, I have read all the welcome advice and have sprayed the both top and bottom with warm water and Neem oil, they seem to be recovering and I realise i need to repeat this in about ten days. My question is, my plants are tall, leaves sparce at stem, have no scent and are not in bud at all, now I have got rid of the mites will the plant now recover and produce? or is it a lost cause.