Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by COzigzag
I would definately get that plant count down somehow. Sell entire plants or something. Your "arse" is too far out in the wind for me.
My plant counts are legal on a per-patient basis. I'm not afraid to ride that rail. It's the chance we take relative to State/Fed laws. All that is getting ready to change though...and quickly since in less than a month, I'll be technically out of compliance with State law if I don't partner up with a center. I've been sounding pretty hard on dispensaries in this thread. The reality is that most that I have dealt with have been very good people and I consider some of them to be personal friends of mine. They are in business too and they have lots of expenses as well. There's nothing wrong with them trying to get the best price they can for their product. This law is the problem and I guess I need to remind myself that we are all in this together. Change, especially under these rather unreasonable time constraints, isn't going to be easy. Big grows require big cash flow. If you're doing a perpetual harvest, this makes it necessary to cash out weekly to pay your overhead. The bigger the crop, the bigger the overhead. I've also envisioned a scenario wherein the grower would wholesale part of the crop for an immediate payment and consign the rest for a larger percentage of the net retail sales. Just make sure you don't consign too much and come up short on your operating capital.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by puntacometa
My plant counts are legal on a per-patient basis. I'm not afraid to ride that rail. It's the chance we take relative to State/Fed laws. All that is getting ready to change though...and quickly since in less than a month, I'll be technically out of compliance with State law if I don't partner up with a center. I've been sounding pretty hard on dispensaries in this thread. The reality is that most that I have dealt with have been very good people and I consider some of them to be personal friends of mine. They are in business too and they have lots of expenses as well. There's nothing wrong with them trying to get the best price they can for their product. This law is the problem and I guess I need to remind myself that we are all in this together. Change, especially under these rather unreasonable time constraints, isn't going to be easy. Big grows require big cash flow. If you're doing a perpetual harvest, this makes it necessary to cash out weekly to pay your overhead. The bigger the crop, the bigger the overhead. I've also envisioned a scenario wherein the grower would wholesale part of the crop for an immediate payment and consign the rest for a larger percentage of the net retail sales. Just make sure you don't consign too much and come up short on your operating capital.
every shop i called to contract with has told me the only growers they would accept is zoned l1,l2 warehouse grow sites.they won't touch a small grow or even a big one if it is in a residential zoned area. reason was because if you contract with them you are somewhat part of the biz and those auditers will be wanting to stop by each and every off site grow area as they plz.
btw to all, if some shop offered me below 4k per i'd say if they paid all the state fees and the site/power/equipment to grow i'd take 3k per lb. and they would still make a killing.cause if you were able to grow for them as part of the 70% which thats what they will be doing with you as you would be an offsite grow for them.even if they put up 15k/20k or whatever it takes on the return of only paying 3k per lb per they would make that back first grow cycle.
casue after the state fees and equipment is paid all they would be paying would be electric and site rent. say 2k/3k per month they would have to pay.for a 10light setup.they would still be way ahead.but all that i called even mark now is only looking for growers that are already setup in a l1,l2 zoned warehouse/shop/grow area.+ pay all the state fees + pay rent,lights,nutes,equipment,have a tax id#,business lic,llc/scorp.so on all of that up front then wants you to contract with them for only 2500/3000 per.sounds like an outright your my bitch "now":S1: slap in the face to me wow.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by puntacometa
..........about the $2500.00 per lb. grow contracts being proposed by some dispensaries? I'm not naming names, but this seems to be the first attempt at price fixing.
So I'm wondering......does this mean that I load my crop up in a panel van, drive it to the dispensary, unload it, we cut the plant off at the base of the stalk, weigh it and then I am paid $2500.00 per lb based on 1/4 the wet weight of the entire plant, I get paid on the spot while the revenue agent with a gun watches and the dispensary becomes responsible for hanging/trimming/drying and curing?
They can kiss my @#@!#$ I am not and will not sell to them for 2,500 a pound. I will keep my same plant count and go underground. The dispensaries can pay 2500 dollars for some cheap ass weed which in return will get the patient pissed off and will in return come to me and will also cost the state even more money in lost tax revenue.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by throatstick
every shop i called to contract with has told me the only growers they would accept is zoned l1,l2 warehouse grow sites.they won't touch a small grow or even a big one if it is in a residential zoned area. reason was because if you contract with them you are somewhat part of the biz and those auditers will be wanting to stop by each and every off site grow area as they plz.
btw to all, if some shop offered me below 4k per i'd say if they paid all the state fees and the site/power/equipment to grow i'd take 3k per lb. and they would still make a killing.cause if you were able to grow for them as part of the 70% which thats what they will be doing with you as you would be an offsite grow for them.even if they put up 15k/20k or whatever it takes on the return of only paying 3k per lb per they would make that back first grow cycle.
casue after the state fees and equipment is paid all they would be paying would be electric and site rent. say 2k/3k per month they would have to pay.for a 10light setup.they would still be way ahead.but all that i called even mark now is only looking for growers that are already setup in a l1,l2 zoned warehouse/shop/grow area.+ pay all the state fees + pay rent,lights,nutes,equipment,have a tax id#,business lic,llc/scorp.so on all of that up front then wants you to contract with them for only 2500/3000 per.sounds like an outright your my bitch "now":S1: slap in the face to me wow.
I've talked to many dispensaries and have found the same thing... NONE of them will associate with growers now unless they are in industrial zoned building, LLC, etc. Many of them even seem giddy about it. Greedy fuckers.
In the future, I think the smart and resourceful "patient" will not be buying their weed from dispensaries... At least not if they want quality. This whole bill (1284) is an epic failure. I hope it comes back to haunt every SOB that thought it was a wonderful idea. Many of these backers were the dispensaries that post on these very same boards.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by relaxalot
I've talked to many dispensaries and have found the same thing... NONE of them will associate with growers now unless they are in industrial zoned building, LLC, etc. Many of them even seem giddy about it. Greedy fuckers.
In the future, I think the smart and resourceful "patient" will not be buying their weed from dispensaries... At least not if they want quality. This whole bill (1284) is an epic failure. I hope it comes back to haunt every SOB that thought it was a wonderful idea. Many of these backers were the dispensaries that post on these very same boards.
I know of a few dispensaries you're talking about that have posted here. I think if growers were to organize and stand up not only for themselves but the cardholders, we could put enough pressure on the state and the dispensaries to get some say.
If I were smart enough I would have the balls to do it. But I'm not a leader:( We need someone who can speak out for us and the patients. Anyone here think they can do it? Please someone give it try!
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by relaxalot
I've talked to many dispensaries and have found the same thing... NONE of them will associate with growers now unless they are in industrial zoned building, LLC, etc. Many of them even seem giddy about it. Greedy fuckers.
In the future, I think the smart and resourceful "patient" will not be buying their weed from dispensaries... At least not if they want quality. This whole bill (1284) is an epic failure. I hope it comes back to haunt every SOB that thought it was a wonderful idea. Many of these backers were the dispensaries that post on these very same boards.
I agree I have heard more then one person say they did not want weed growen from a warehouse setting. Patients are in it for the quality not the quanity. I think more then one dispensary will regret doing the big warehouse shops. Plus not counting if the dea picks them as the one to use as an example. Maybe by the time the owner, the grower and the dis manager get out of jail weed will be legal across the usa.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by cowgirl1
I agree I have heard more then one person say they did not want weed growen from a warehouse setting. Patients are in it for the quality not the quanity. I think more then one dispensary will regret doing the big warehouse shops. Plus not counting if the dea picks them as the one to use as an example. Maybe by the time the owner, the grower and the dis manager get out of jail weed will be legal across the usa.
it's even taken the last hold out.greatful meds is even going this path now.im not knocking them tho it's either play ball or shut down shop.i understand sum have no choice. but most of them act like it's christmas or something.
all i can say is i hope the good and just stay safe and i hope the dirty ones karma x10 fold......in a swift and fast way.
Go growers...what do you think....
Warehouse grow = BEASTERS
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Go growers...what do you think....
so who is up for starting a dispenso geared to sell to others to supply that 30%? or is it too late? don't we have until 7-1?
all have ownership etc, etc
i can get all the gear we need.
Go growers...what do you think....
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Originally Posted by canaguy27
so who is up for starting a dispenso geared to sell to others to supply that 30%? or is it too late? don't we have until 7-1?
all have ownership etc, etc
i can get all the gear we need.
All I could bring to the cause is my grow and help, heres my e-mail if you could use me [email protected]