Obama

In case anyone needed reminding, a guy is on currently trial for threatening Rep. Bart Stupak over his role in Healthcare reform. I still don't understand why abortion nutjobs insist a presidential decree banning public funding of abortion isnt good enough, but apparently it is enough to threaten lives over, and a guy is now facing jail for a letter he wrote. Whatever our differences, when we resort to violence in politics, we have given up on our system of government. I thought Americans liked democracy...

I didn't vote for Obama but I was hoping he would do 2 things.
1: Repair race relations in our own country.
He has done absolutely nothing in that regards.
2: Repair foreign relations with some of the muslim nations.
Hasn't helped there either.

Everything else he's done is just normal politics. Wouldn't matter who was president most verything thats going on would be happening anyway no matter who was president.

It is incumbent on every
generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save
one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson :

I can agree with you on item 1 although the act of electing Obama itself did a great deal for race relations in our country.

As for item 2, that is just not true. He has done a great deal to repair our standing internationally including with Muslim nations. I'd say the jury is still out in that regard. He could easily flush all of the goodwill engendered to date.

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

...It is incumbent on every
generation to pay its own debts as it goes.
A principle which if acted on would save
one-half the wars of the world.
Thomas Jefferson :

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Hope and Change? I didnt really expect big things, Obamas long record showed him to be a very centerist to right democrat. I dont think anyone who actually took the time to research it expected a 'racidal leftist' that the media all warned us against.

A Nobel Prize? What, he just appeared in 2009? he didnt do anything else before he ran for president? Forget that he's a Foreign infiltrator, hes a pod person from outer-space! Read why they gave him the nobel prize and its entirely consistent with why they give them out in the first place.

The media portrays Obama favorably? What TV channel you watching cause Im not seeing much of this.

Has Obama repaired race relations in this country? What did you want, a hand to wipe away all the years of hard feelings? And I mean thousands of years. But its helped a lot and you see this everyday. It may seem there are more racists about, but they've always been here and i think its a good thing when the cockroaches infesting our country are forced out into the light.

Has Obama 'fixed' the economy? For 8 years we have an economy in freefall, runaway spending and the 'Bush' tax cuts seeing more of our taxes paid by those who can least afford it, and the least being paid by those who can than EVER IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY! Its gonna be 'fixed' in 100 days? 500 days? Everyone said this was going to take 5-10 years to come out of, including the republicans who said there was no recession in the first place.

The mortgage/banking industry is derequlated and it implodes, the oil industry is deregulated and it explodes. How much more evidence do you need? Do you need to be hit in the head with a freakin rock? If eliminating all corporate laws will make things safer and better will eliminating all criminal laws do the same for our streets?

If 'The Free Market' handles things better than the Gov'mint than why are THEY now saying that Obama isnt doing enough about the oil spill? Republican Teabaggers who six months ago were saying Gov'mint needs to stay out of their lives are now begging for this Kenyan born Muslim terrorists help on national TV. What, they expect Obama to put on a wetsuit, go down there and pinch that well off? Why hasnt god? These whack job christians who live down there have all been praying to him to do it, but you want Obama to? (no offense meant to any southerners, Id be saying the same no matter where it was) He shouldnt criticize BP while they need to focus on the clean up but lets criticize him while he needs to focus on... oh nm.

Im not too old, 40's ish, but in my politically aware lifetime republicans administrations have always crashed our economy while democratic administrations have always brought it back. I was a republican back then, until reagan killed small business in this country.

If you go back and read about the 1830's when the two parties were founded you will find that one guy guy founded the democratic party while one other guy, his longtime political rival founded the republican party soley in opposition to the democratic party. Today it seems thats all the republican party is, it just says no. To everything. And has for 30 years. Did they do anything in the last 10 years about the economy, foreign affairs, oil production or safety?

Obama so far on a 1 to 10, a solid 8. The fact that we havent had a 911 under Obama should push it to a 9 in most right wingers minds.

At least i dont have to be embarassed by his poor grasp of the english language anymore when I hear my president speak on TV.


by the way, that would have been a 6-5 rating if it hadnt been for our last president.

The dream ticket for 2012 is Sarah Palin and Rand Paul! give it to the dems for 4 more!

I agree 100%. Where were these ultra high expectations people seem to have for our president 5 or 6 years ago, back when our country got gutted by a republican leader? It takes a good solid 8 years of work to crash our economy, ruin our good name, resort, and put our constitutional rights into the papershredder (yes, republicans took away many of your rights, and they are the party that will fight tooth and claw for the 2nd, while ignoring all the other ammendments), our country cannot be rebuilt overnight. Seriously, how long did it take to get out of the Great Depression? 10 years? So for the Great Recession we decide magicly cut that down to 1? maybe 2? wtf.

Lets be realistic, in both our expectations, and our timetables.

Couldn't have said it better. WTF is right. And why the willful ignorance concerning how we got to this situation? You can damn well be sure that if a Democractic president had performed as GWBush we would never have heard the end of it. I'm not pleased with the way Obama has continued to trample civil liberties or that he has failed to live up to his promises in many areas, but I much more comfortable with the trajectory we're on now as opposed to 2 years ago.

my biggest complaint about Obama is all the war casulties on his watch. This is never acceptable to me. :twocents: