POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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05-26-2010, 10:38 PM
throatstick

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

i laugh when i see people write things like leo was against this bill see so this bill will not hurt us.leo will act and lie and do anything to make you think what they want you too.they are cowards they don't want you to know they will be bashing your door in at 3 am.

lmao thats why they bust mmj people so much is because they know most will use mj to go relax and go to bed.they can't be so sure with real dope houses.they are tweaked out for days lmao..
05-26-2010, 11:01 PM
oldhaole

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

Right now I am sure that there are many dispensaries that truly go out of their way to help people. As I read it this new law comes down directly on them.

As I see it this new law turns "caregiver" to "must make money". Just to cover your overhead and a small profit will be a hard road. Not to mention that if you have more than 100 plants you will always have the Feds hanging over your head. And thats not going to change anytime soon. So I think you should get more because of the extra risk you take.

I kinda agree with Dorjie in that his comparison to microbrews. Except I would change beer to wine. In this business model small wineries can thrive as well as the big boys. But the "Big Boys" suffer the stigma of mass production. And you pay more for quality.

As I said earlier I don't have a dog in this fight. But it looks like the state has thrown up a giant roadblock on the amount of product that can be grown. It only makes sense that the small growers that will be the only ones able to meet the demand.
05-26-2010, 11:19 PM
TurboALLWD

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by oldhaole

Right now I am sure that there are many dispensaries that truly go out of their way to help people. As I read it this new law comes down directly on them.

This new law comes down directly on the CAREGIVERS AND PATIENTS. They have made ALL sales illegal besides DISPENSARY SALES. Oh yeah caregivers can sell to their 5 patients at cost. Seriously, this bill is fucking the people, and the dispensaries just a wee bit.
05-27-2010, 12:22 AM
TheReleafCenter

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

Give me a break with you're caregiver BS. Caregivers don't deliver meds at their convenience, they deliver meds at the patients convenience. Some people can't afford to get ripped off, some can't afford the risk of losing their job for being seen going into a dispensary. I have a patient that came to me because of that, not to mention her meds are only $8/g if she needs more than her free ounce. :D But it looks like all the douchebag dispensary owners, lawyers, politicians and plenty of other low lifes have succeded in preventing the caregivers from being able to offer free meds, and even CHEAP meds as we are most likely going to have to charge a little more to cover our costs with only 5 patients.

Limited selection? I'd take limited selection over taking it up the ass at $50 an 8th anytime. I have 15 strains now, and with the new laws I'll have DOUBLE that as I'll get my plant count up to 80-90 or so. Usable limit will be high enough that caregivers won't have to unload it to a dispensary for $150-$200 an ounce so dispensaries can mark it up 300%. Good thing thats about to be a thing of the past. It's hard to deny that dispensaries aren't RIPPING PATIENTS OFF at $50-60 an 8th. That's STREET price which has been calculated with a lot more risk than a dispensary has to deal with right now.

You can't tell me dispensaries are not making an INSANE amount of profit at 6500-7500 a pound when their growing it themselves for roughly 800-1000 a pound. Yeah I think they should cap all you guys to $40 an 8th. Maybe $30, hell that would still be higher than what my patients pay. :rastasmoke:

I don't know what else I can say, and I can't really speculate on how much money other dispensaries are making. You seem really passionate about this, so I won't try to change your mind.

I can just say that I didn't get into this for the money, I'm making less than I was when I was a bartender, and I'm infinitely more happy. I never had a CLUE, though, how much it costs to actually run a dispensary.
05-27-2010, 01:03 AM
TurboALLWD

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

I don't know what else I can say, and I can't really speculate on how much money other dispensaries are making. You seem really passionate about this, so I won't try to change your mind.

I can just say that I didn't get into this for the money, I'm making less than I was when I was a bartender, and I'm infinitely more happy. I never had a CLUE, though, how much it costs to actually run a dispensary.

Yeah I am passionate about this as you can tell, when I say about this, I'm talking about patients, including my brother, that need meds to live a good life. When a dispensary charges what I consider street prices, its hard for me to not look down on them when I know their pulling a get rich scheme.

You say you're making less than you were as a bartender? Shame on the dispensary owner you work for that pays you such low wage for running that shop.
05-27-2010, 02:47 AM
throatstick

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

Yeah I am passionate about this as you can tell, when I say about this, I'm talking about patients, including my brother, that need meds to live a good life. When a dispensary charges what I consider street prices, its hard for me to not look down on them when I know their pulling a get rich scheme.

You say you're making less than you were as a bartender? Shame on the dispensary owner you work for that pays you such low wage for running that shop.

alot of owners call them selfs mgr's too.....
05-27-2010, 02:53 AM
TurboALLWD

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by throatstick

alot of owners call them selfs mgr's too.....

Right, but thats not the case here. He just said he was not the owner in another thread.
05-27-2010, 03:33 AM
throatstick

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

Right, but thats not the case here. He just said he was not the owner in another thread.

i know just saying.....lol
05-27-2010, 04:05 AM
Stickybooger

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TheReleafCenter

I don't know what else I can say, and I can't really speculate on how much money other dispensaries are making. You seem really passionate about this, so I won't try to change your mind.

I can just say that I didn't get into this for the money, I'm making less than I was when I was a bartender, and I'm infinitely more happy. I never had a CLUE, though, how much it costs to actually run a dispensary.

I have been in your dispensary It looks like there must be a lot of over head.
05-27-2010, 04:33 AM
TheReleafCenter

POLL: Will HB-1284 Cause Prices to Raise or Fall?

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Originally Posted by TurboALLWD

Yeah I am passionate about this as you can tell, when I say about this, I'm talking about patients, including my brother, that need meds to live a good life. When a dispensary charges what I consider street prices, its hard for me to not look down on them when I know their pulling a get rich scheme.

You say you're making less than you were as a bartender? Shame on the dispensary owner you work for that pays you such low wage for running that shop.

And what you're doing is noble.

I remember the first time I lost a patient. And not because they signed up with another caregiver. It stays with you.

The first time I met her, she was with her daughter and son in law. I came in on my day off to check on something I don't remember. We have a lot of paperwork, and she was smart enough to be leery. Or spry. I went through every word of our paperwork and we cracked jokes as I went along.

She asked a lot of questions because she was scared. Her son in law had wheeled her up a flight of stairs, backwards, to arrive in one of the least pleasant dispensaries in the city. Immediately feeling uncomfortable, she asked him to take her back down.

It took courage to come and see us. We don't let people past our security door to peruse. It's for everyone's safety. She gave us her trust.

We talked about alternatives to smoking, because she was in the end stages of terminal cancer. We told her where she could buy vaporizers that were cheaper than ours, because that kind of treatment leaves you with nothing. Especially hope.

Her son in law (her caregiver) would come in now and then, after we worked out special paperwork, to pick up something for her. I felt that helplessness you feel when you realize you're only alleviating symptoms, not curing a disease. It's so hard to feel like what you're doing is all that great when you have to watch someone die. I wanted to believe we were doing miracle work when I felt like we were really false prophets.

But it's neither. She had a quality of life that many people aren't afforded. I can't beat myself up because there wasn't anything I could do. We start tomorrow just like we started today, one patient at a time.

And she wasn't my family. I can't fathom what you're going through.

Honestly, my owners make less than I do. We built The Releaf Center off of savings and sweat. I can show you pictures of our remodel... it was intense. It sounds like you've been in, so you know we aren't the flashiest place out there.

We spent our money on a free library of wellness books over a flat screen for our lobby. We're running a special called The Ounce That Counts where we donate an ounce to the winner and all proceeds to their (approved) charity.
We do lots of things. Come in and talk to me about it. I'm the tall guy, Jake.

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