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		...is sometimes hard to take, but I'd rather the government-issued fig-leaf than no protection at all. I kind of look at my Health Canada card the same way that John Cleese in A Fish Called Wanda  was instructed to look at the bobbies in the cell of his new client...
It's my "Pigs fuck off, please" card. I sorely wish that I didn't need such a thing.
I am a great believer in the Powers of the Free Market, though. Were it full and truly legalized, I know that in that free (or mostly free) market, there will be room for the w4ll-M4rtz, as well as the mom-n-pops who turn out connoisseur stuph (like mesef).
The Last Thing I want is MORE godd'mn gub'mint reg'lashion.
Some people are happy with Micky'Dees. Some want Filet Mignon.
And some sum'sabiches want FM @ Md's prices... 
Sigh :) Let the Free Market sort it out.
	 
	
	
	
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			And some sum'sabiches want FM @ Md's prices...
			
		
	 
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		Great idea, Klonzinc! Everybody seems to like Craig's list, but I fear it is too public. We need an underground website that can be found by word of mouth only. 
Does the bill say anything about Caregivers being able to deliver? If not, then we can set up a bonded delivery service for Caregiver product to be delivered to patients.
I do know the bill prevents actual "co-ops". Two Caregivers cannot team up to share the same patients. 
Any of you ever mail grows to patients?
	 
	
	
	
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		I just cleaned up some bullshit on the DEA here and let me inform ya all just once; ANY more comments about turning ANYBODY in will result in an immediate and possibly permanent ban!!! I just got done with my bullshit after being busted so these type of comments REALLY bite me in the ass right now.:mad:
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		I'm confused as to why my comment was mod'd ..:rastasmoke:
	 
	
	
	
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			I'm confused as to why my comment was mod'd ..:rastasmoke:
			
		
	 
 Me too, my whole post was deleted. :rasta:
	 
	
	
	
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			I just cleaned up some bullshit on the DEA here and let me inform ya all just once; ANY more comments about turning ANYBODY in will result in an immediate and possibly permanent ban!!! I just got done with my bullshit after being busted so these type of comments REALLY bite me in the ass right now.:mad:
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			I'm confused as to why my comment was mod'd ..:rastasmoke:
			
		
	 
 
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			Me too, my whole post was deleted. :rasta:
			
		
	 
 My position on the subject was made quite clear. I will say that both of your responses completely condemned such actions but there was still mention of the post besides links the post in question. Since I'm unable to edit posts, I did the next best thing. 
I was busted do to an anonymous letter so I hope ya all understand; ANY mention of turning somebody or organization in for growing kind of burns my ass at this time and I'm sure that feeling won't fade anytime to soon.:mad:
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			Guess I need to kiss your ass, I disagree...
250/oz might be ok for some people and for some strains but for sativas that seem to take like 6 months or more to finish (accounting for the cure time too) - 250 isn't even going to come close to covering my incurred cost & overhead!
			
		
	 
 My grow totals down to about $20-30/oz of AA-quality, that's for most indica and sativa strains (that includes electricity for the air pump and air circulation and timers as well.) I'd have to wonder what equipment you're using.
	 
	
	
	
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		I completely understand, I just to recently went through a bunch of bullshit, because of a narc...cowards.:rastasmoke:
	 
	
	
	
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			My grow totals down to about $20-30/oz of AA-quality, that's for most indica and sativa strains (that includes electricity for the air pump and air circulation and timers as well.) I'd have to wonder what equipment you're using.
			
		
	 
 Def. depends on system and nutes, I've seen people spend incredible amounts of $$ on organic hydro systems and other odd growing methods.
I just put 'em in dirt, re-use the dirt (this is a secret to high quality and yields out of dirt), feed them guanos, worm castings and not so much on the expensive liquid nutes. I'm figuring around $10 / oz, NOT INCLUDING LABOR. Labor is a big part of it, and is worth far more than co2, electricity, and nutes combined. 
Labor is a large expense, especially if you have a small system. Mine is tiny, just 3 plants, so labor for me comes out to maybe $75-$100 / oz if I want to be reasonably compensated. So, lets just call it $100/oz for parts and labor. Going by general rules of business, I need to double the cost of production, so I need at least $200 / oz wholesale. 
$200 / oz wholesale is just my number, and I've been gardening since '94. I don't need to spend very much time or money relative to most growers with less experience and/or more complicated systems. So, those who think this is easy money need to think again. It's not as lucrative as some might think, and  not everyone is capable of coming up with product worth selling for top dollar. This makes top end ganja more like fine wine, and we should expect to be paid more for it, but we do not. Certainly not in proportion to it's quality. I think there needs to be even more differential in price, I see a lot of lower quality stuff that should be a lot cheaper in dispensaries...