Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
I think if you want to grow for more than 5 patients you will be forced to 'team up' a dispensary as an off site grow operation.
Who's going to pay the 10K fee? I bet the farmer.
Watch the 'new gig' on the block, """Pay the 10K 'franchise growing fee' and join our dispensary and grow legally!""" And then we will TELL you what we will pay you for it.
10K at 200/zip (or less probably) will be giving a free QP to them each month to pay for that.
All of this gives so much power to the dispensaries who survive. I believe the price is going to quickly rise in the dispensaries and now they have the reasons to justify it. The ONLY thing keeping the price in check at all was the small and medium careproviders/dispensaries-pseudo or otherwise, who could kill the dispensary prices, no longer the case.
I've always believed this was about putting some power in the hands of a common man who works hard and staying away from the pharmaceuticals. The dispensaries have simply replaced them.
I feel very foolish, as I've always supported dispensarys and done business with some of the biggest, and that's who basically lobbied me out of the industry. I thought they would be a way to eventual legalization and turns out, so far, it's the exact opposite. They are the reason for all of this legislation.
I suppose it's back to the 9-5 grind and prozac.
As a small care provider I feel like they are simply ripping my pursuit of happiness from me and my patients.
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Originally Posted by lampost
Well I hate to be that guy that starts his posts with, "I've been saying this since day one." But oh well...
I remember back in November saying that the appearance of dispensaries on every corner in Denver is going to FASTTRACK them to some harsh legislation we don't want!!
It's hard to contain the entrepreneurial spirit obviously, but I wish all of our second-rate dispensaries would've maybe never opened up and just done under-the-radar grows...
This really is the reason that the legislation will not fail. Shit, I'm 100% for pot, but I'm a little disgusted at all the dispensaries I see when I drive down certain areas. I mean there's fuckin' neon pot signs everywhere. I totally understand the average citizens concern that this is a runaway freight train. Not many people want to see their neighborhood turn into a coffeeshop district!!
Just playing devil's advocate here, but I think that our explosion caused this backlash.
It did. I know of one dispensary owner who behaved so stupidly and arrogantly at a meeting with County officials last fall that they couldn't pass a moratorium fast enough.
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Too bad we couldn't have done some regulating on the front end... maybe making dispensaries a little harder to open up... rather than legislating on the back-end and making them impossible to run... therefore closing most of them down...
Agreed.
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But that IS the intent really. They want less dispensaries... so they are getting there way... they are just taking a big shit on a bunch of entrepreneurs as they do it. Bankrupting many and robbing them of their lifesavings. Way to go!!
Actions have consequences. If we behave in ways that reinforce negative stereotypes, the results are predictable.
Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
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Originally Posted by MEDEDCANNABIS
has anyone noticed the bumped up police force lately and now the one mile over law that im sure none of us appproved.
What's this "one mile over" law of which you speak??
It's easy for me to read between the lines to know what the law is, but is that a national law or a Colorado law?!? That is fuckin' ridiculous..
Most cops in CO don't even look twice if you're doing up to 10mph over!! This law has nothing to do with speeding!! You're right it's just to basically give them more legal defense to pull ANYONE over. They don't have to have a reason to pull you over anymore!
As most people know, speedometers are not 100% accurate (neither are radar guns). Your speedometer may say you're going 35mph, the speed limit... but you may actually be doing 36. The gun may be slightly more accurate and pick up 36. So now he has the right to pull you over?
Also, because of this inherent inaccuracy (compounded by the inaccuracy in the cop's radar gun as well) the cop will always have an excuse to pull over someone doing the speed limit!! If you are going 34-35mph, and he wants to pull you over, he can now easily SAY that you were going 36mph even if he got a reading of "35mph". He now has that uncertainty to use to his advantage. A 1mph increment is easy to fudge and most cops would probably feel justified in doing so if they found drugs in the car!! Hell, when I set my cruise control the speed probably varies from 2-3mph as I go up and down hills and the grade changes...
This is nuts to me! I always thought the cops gave you that 5mph over kinda because of this...
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Caregivers will not be able to sell to dispensaries or anyone else that isnt their patient.
the last bill was that dispensaries must produce 70% of their own leaving 30% to be purchased if needed. how all of this will enforced is a mystery (call scooby and friends) because i cant comprehend the task force needed to detail all of these transactions. probably why they want to cut down on dispensaries. i see this battle going on for a while though, as neither side wants to concede. the little items have been agreed on, now the beefier issues are the real fight. I THINK THOSE ON THE FOREFRONT DESERVE A, HELL YEAH! mj is holding its own in this war on drugs. now shoe on odda fut oshoos, ha ha ha ha:D
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Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
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Originally Posted by lampost
What's this "one mile over" law of which you speak??
It's easy for me to read between the lines to know what the law is, but is that a national law or a Colorado law?!? That is fuckin' ridiculous..
Most cops in CO don't even look twice if you're doing up to 10mph over!! This law has nothing to do with speeding!! You're right it's just to basically give them more legal defense to pull ANYONE over. They don't have to have a reason to pull you over anymore!
As most people know, speedometers are not 100% accurate (neither are radar guns). Your speedometer may say you're going 35mph, the speed limit... but you may actually be doing 36. The gun may be slightly more accurate and pick up 36. So now he has the right to pull you over?
Also, because of this inherent inaccuracy (compounded by the inaccuracy in the cop's radar gun as well) the cop will always have an excuse to pull over someone doing the speed limit!! If you are going 34-35mph, and he wants to pull you over, he can now easily SAY that you were going 36mph even if he got a reading of "35mph". He now has that uncertainty to use to his advantage. A 1mph increment is easy to fudge and most cops would probably feel justified in doing so if they found drugs in the car!! Hell, when I set my cruise control the speed probably varies from 2-3mph as I go up and down hills and the grade changes...
This is nuts to me! I always thought the cops gave you that 5mph over kinda because of this...
like i said new law. i just heard about it within the last month. it was even posted on a reader board on I25 saying "75mph means 75mph." as for the rest of your statement they dont care, you were not there to vote on it, none of us i doubt were there. this is how they do shit under our nose. keep it quiet nobody shows up for the hearing, BAM its a law. of course im no expert it just seems until its on the news most dont know. its not about drugs being found its about money, thats all these traitors want power and money.
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Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
I sent this copy below out last night I guess more got hit last night.. As far as I know its on a catalogue and compliance nature, but please make sure u r In line. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::5 or 6 clinics were raided today along with many grow operations over the last couple days here in the springs. Not that we have anything to worry about. Just know its coming down. The law has been defined and now law enforcement has direction. They have no knocked and kicked down the doors, made copies of all patient records and city sales tax. They also took samples out of every jar to catalogue and trimmings of every plant along with sales records. This as we know is one of the problems with HB1284, it gives broad police power and limits our rights. Watch your six!!!
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Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
Was that to ensure compliance with the city ordinance?
Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
Medical marijuana advocate sees DA's hand in searches
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May 13, 2010 10:22 AM
JOEL MILLMAN
THE GAZETTE
Colorado Springs police searched seven medical marijuana dispensaries in the city Wednesday as part of an ongoing investigation, said Sgt. B. Poole of the region's Metro vice, Narcotics and Intelligence squad.
No arrests were made and Poole declined to say what police were looking into, saying it was an ongoing investigaiton and would be reviewed by the 4th Judicial District Attorney's Office before any information could be released.
Sunshine Wellness Center, a downtown dispensary, was not among those that were searched, but an employee said she heard police were checking that the growers were complying with state laws regarding the number of patients dispensaries can have and the plants they can grow.
Tanya Garduno, president of the Colorado Springs Medical Canabis Council, which represents patients, caregivers and dispensaries in the area, said the group has been meeting with law enforcement officials to discuss mutual concerns and was surprised by the searches.
"We were given no indication of an investigation," she said Thursday. "This pretty much blind-sided us."
The searches were conducted the day after the Legislature gave final approval to a bill regulating the medical marijuana industry.
HB1284 would create state licenses for medical marijuana dispensaries and allow local governments to regulate or ban dispensaries outright. The law, which Gov. Bill Ritter is expected to sign, also would set state residency requirements for dispensary owners, prohibit kickbacks from dispensaries to doctors that refer patients for medical marijuana and tighten restrictions on minors using medical marijuana.
Garduno said she suspected 4th Judicial District Dan May, an outspoken critic of the medical marijuana dispensaries, had a hand in the searches being conducted so soon after lawmakers approved the new regulations.
DA's spokeswoman Kathleen Walsh denied that May played a role in orchestrating the searches, saying the office only become involved if someone is arrested.
Stay with gazette.com for updates on this story.
Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
Grow information would be public record, growers targets of crime
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It's funny I had forgot all about that video, we were going to do a documentry from seed to shelf. It was filmed last fall.
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