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The problem with Seccy Vigil's reasoning is that since cannabis is illegal, and the federal govt has been the only one able to do any research, that reserch is pretty hard to come by.

I am fairly sure there are no studies on the effectiveness of marijuana on menstrual cramps, but women use it for that. I am sure there are no studies on ones ability ot withstand heat, sun, and hard labor while using cannabis either... But 9 out of 10 working men use it for that. We shouldnt have to wait for a study...If 100 people came in and said it helped that particular condition then THAT IS A STUDY IN ITSELF!

If cannabis helps one specific kind of arthritis, it helps them all. It is discomfort that it keeps at bay. Whether it is arthritis, back pain, nausea and illness from chemotherapy, or menstrual cramps it works the same.

We need a study on general day to day pain, fatigue, lonliness, fear, hunger, and sorrow. There would be no problem proving the effectiveness of marijuana for any of these conditions if the studies were there.

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Originally Posted by Totah Sam

I still can't believe that LEO's are still saying it's a gateway drug even though studies have shown that to be false.

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Not all of them.....I doubt that LEAP is.

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Originally Posted by coolslayer

Not all of them.....I doubt that LEAP is.

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While I dont trust LEAP's motives, they are indeed a whole bunch of officers, lawyers, judges and others that support ending prohibition, and more specifically across the board legalization and taxation.

They are certainly not MC users and make scary bedfellows. The only thing LEAPsters and I have in common are this single shared belief. I hope no one here is fooled into thinking this is an organozation of "cool cops".

The gateway argument only works when they throw it out in propoganda and falls on simple ears. It sounds feasable, and everone knows people who started with pot and is dead from banging junk. If a person puts the info in perspective he sees that it is a type of personality that leads to addiction. Cause and effect simply cannot be proven when arguing for the "gateway theory". By this reasoning you could assume that drinking milk led to alcoholism because 100% of alcoholics drank milk before they went to beer.

People are gullible. When they hear something that makes sense to them and it rings a chord with them they believe it. They beleive it with no questioning because they heard certain words that they liked. It was a complex subject that they knew nothing about, they were a little nervous even thinking about the subject, and they werent really motivated to learn anything about it.

Someone told them that their children were at risk(..."WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?????" a woman cried from the back of the crowd) Since thay could not find any other reason to continue prohibition the invented the "Gateway Drug" and it has been the centerpiece of the prohibitionist argument since.

Alcohol is the gateway drug. it breeds addiction, addiction breeds need, and need breeds action. In 93% of all abuse, alcohol is the first addiction. In 86% of all cases alcohol is the ONLY addiction. Stoners simply do not grow up to be addicts.

Mental problems cause addiction. For prohibitionists to blame addictions on the drugs is a cop out. We need to face reality with our addictions as well as our drug policy if we are to help people and understand the chemistry of need in an addicted person. We also need to stop blaming people who smoke marijuana for the addictive behavior of a population that is intoxicated by greed and excess from birth.

There really is no such thing as a gateway drug. People who abuse drugs and then move on to stronger stuff are self-medicating. It's the addictive behavior of the abuser that's the problem, not the drug. But, it's so much easier to use a propaganist term like "gateway drug" to scare the public.

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Someone told them that their children were at risk(..."WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?????" a woman cried from the back of the crowd)

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They use the same fear mongering about gay marriage. When they have no valid argument then it's all about the children.

It's like blaming the gun for someone getting shot.

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Originally Posted by coolslayer

It's like blaming the gun for someone getting shot.

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A very good analogy!

I think being a gay child is a gateway to adult homosexuality.

OK NOT PC however, I thought it fit given the previous "stupid quotes".

Funny too in my twisted since of humor.

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Are you high?

As we know a common myth regarded with marijuana is that it is considered to be a gateway drug. This theory states that the use of marijuana will lead to the usage of harder drugs like cocaine and heroin.

This statement isn't true because according to Joshua Levine "when the Dutch partially legalized marijuana in the 70's, heroin and cocaine use substantially declined". This fact proves that marijuana is not a gateway drug.

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